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Jabberlock
Nov 29, 2014



Cocaine Bear posted:

Lol, thanks.

here you go

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Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
Trailer for Cruella DeVil's gritty origin story dropped today:
https://twitter.com/BrotiGupta/status/1362080818286354438?s=20

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1362231267253755906

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



What the heck happened? BA was very diverse from what I could tell?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Humphreys posted:

What the heck happened? BA was very diverse from what I could tell?

there's receipts in the thread

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Humphreys posted:

What the heck happened? BA was very diverse from what I could tell?

All of the diversity was producers and writers who were never paid to actually appear on camera but were demanded to appear on camera.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Humphreys posted:

What the heck happened? BA was very diverse from what I could tell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtrqGPUn6uM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQV-W_Ut8MY

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
To remove the racial aspect (which you shouldn't at all, but makes it easier to explain)

On camera talent is generally paid more than the people behind the camera, it's not great but generally if you have a hit show losing some on camera is a lot worse than losing someone behind it. Bon Apetite asked/forced their behind camera people to also appear on camera without paying them extra. Which alone is severely hosed, we hired you for one job, but now we need you to do this second job, that is usually paid better than your first job, but we aren't giving you any extra money, and we still need you to do the job you were originally hired for.

That alone is a bad situation.

And then you bring in the fact that everyone asked to do this was a PoC because everyone making On Camera money was white and well...

a sexual elk
May 16, 2007

/That’s capitalism.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

a sexual elk posted:

/That’s capitalism.

Huh, it's almost like capitalism and white supremacy are intrinsically linked.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



Dammit, and I thought the biggest outrage is how dumpy (and lucky) Mollys husband is. Awaiting the big reveal that Chris is actually gay and Andy is straight was a little thing I giggled at the idea of. It's been a long time since I watched it, but I always thought it was very diverse (loved Sohla and her father a LOT) - oh and Gaby is always a delight!, but yup Corporations gonna Corp. I was under the impression the whole channels staff were on big stacks making content in a New York City highrise commercial kitchen.

Please don't tell me there's a photo of Brad in a Nazi uniform.

Ishamael
Feb 18, 2004

You don't have to love me, but you will respect me.

Skwirl posted:

To remove the racial aspect (which you shouldn't at all, but makes it easier to explain)

On camera talent is generally paid more than the people behind the camera, it's not great but generally if you have a hit show losing some on camera is a lot worse than losing someone behind it. Bon Apetite asked/forced their behind camera people to also appear on camera without paying them extra. Which alone is severely hosed, we hired you for one job, but now we need you to do this second job, that is usually paid better than your first job, but we aren't giving you any extra money, and we still need you to do the job you were originally hired for.

That alone is a bad situation.

And then you bring in the fact that everyone asked to do this was a PoC because everyone making On Camera money was white and well...

Yep. It was a situation that was not at all surprising if you have worked in production. They started off doing their YT channel as a side aspect of their business, so lots of the people on staff were excited to be a part of it as a fun way to get some on-camera exposure. But then the YT channel took off, and the benefits of that only were spread to the marquee names, mainly Brad and Claire. And to be honest I doubt there was that much benefit for them either, I am guessing that is why Claire quit and then re-negotiated.

But after the CEO was shown to be a racist dick, the inequality between the (white) big names and the (not all white) side characters on the shows took on a more sinister cast than it might have otherwise. I think that no one there was prepared for their success, and when the bigger money started rolling in it was not distributed evenly (like every production ever), and because of the CEO and his reluctance to promote non-white people, none of those people enjoyed any of the windfalls that did come.

The thing that made that channel fun, which was the on-the-fly, winging it, hanging-out-in-the-office feel of the shows, was also what made it unable to scale successfully and why it fell apart.


Humphreys posted:

Dammit, and I thought the biggest outrage is how dumpy (and lucky) Mollys husband is. Awaiting the big reveal that Chris is actually gay and Andy is straight was a little thing I giggled at the idea of. It's been a long time since I watched it, but I always thought it was very diverse (loved Sohla and her father a LOT) - oh and Gaby is always a delight!, but yup Corporations gonna Corp. I was under the impression the whole channels staff were on big stacks making content in a New York City highrise commercial kitchen.

Please don't tell me there's a photo of Brad in a Nazi uniform.

It seems to have been a racist power structure problem rather than a "problematic on-camera people" problem, if that makes sense. Claire, Carla, Molly and some others left and started their own things, which are fine but don't have the same charm. Brad stayed and pushed for a new, more diverse staff, but his show has lost its magic as well, probably because they fired the editor (Hunzi) for speaking up about inequalities. It is a shame, it was a fun channel and I liked the personalities a lot. But it was built on the (racist) sand, I guess.

Ishamael has a new favorite as of 13:55 on Feb 18, 2021

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Humphreys posted:

I was under the impression the whole channels staff were on big stacks making content in a New York City highrise commercial kitchen.
Yeah that's... that's part of the optics of putting it all in a NYC highrise commercial kitchen. It's lifestyle porn fantasy.

The fact that the production was actually unequal as poo poo should be extremely unsurprising. Neoliberal spaces should be safely assumed to be "like that" unless very very thoroughly proven otherwise.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Thanks goons. It's sad to hear but needed to be heard.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Sohla's got her own show on this channel now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5odneOsxNTw

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I find Babish pretty obnoxious—is her show different in vibe? The guy started out good but then began buying into his own hype and got real cute with his content and I had to bounce.

number 1 snake fan
Jul 16, 2018

feedmyleg posted:

I find Babish pretty obnoxious—is her show different in vibe? The guy started out good but then began buying into his own hype and got real cute with his content and I had to bounce.

Lol Babish was never good, he sucks at cooking somehow.

Anyway, Sohla has a much better show on this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PsJilIaFio


Does anyone know if Hunzi is doing anything these days?

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Idgaf about that channel/company, but is the lady that makes fancy knockoffs of junk food still cool?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I mean, cooking-wise probably, but I felt like it was pretty entertaining when he was just making bad foods from movies and TV. But he pretty quickly ran out of good ones and without the novelty factor we were just left with his bad personality.

I'll check out that other channel though.

Warbird posted:

Idgaf about that channel/company, but is the lady that makes fancy knockoffs of junk food still cool?

e: Claire's new channel is fun but lacks the "challenge" competition show feeling of her junk food show. I haven't heard anything problematic about her.

feedmyleg has a new favorite as of 15:36 on Feb 18, 2021

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

number 1 snake fan posted:

Lol Babish was never good, he sucks at cooking somehow.
as someone who went to high school with him, I will say he did get funnier since then

(prepared to believe he has not gotten better at cooking but we weren't close or anything)

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

feedmyleg posted:

e: Claire's new channel is fun but lacks the "challenge" competition show feeling of her junk food show. I haven't heard anything problematic about her.

I'm sure most of the personalities involved are fine enough people, the entire point is that the issue was and remains systemic. It's a bad system.

Queen-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart💔 and give you mine🫀"




...Was the babish show supposed to be a serious cooking channel?

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

He’s been doing a now long running series on “basics” that’s actually been fairly helpful for ideas or filling in gaps in knowledge. Not saying it’s must watch programming but it’s entertaining enough and vaguely educational. Pretty sure he’s running out of subjects though; we can’t all be Alton Brown.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005


I don't get it.

lord funk
Feb 16, 2004

What's dumb is that BA had a textbook 'Friends' scenario. Matthew Perry and Courtenay Cox may have been the A-tier stars, and the others not so much, but they paid everyone equally because it was the ensemble that made the show.

So sure, Gaby wasn't the one making 5-million-view videos on Oreos, but without her popping up, the kitchen is not the same, the videos aren't as fun, etc..

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Biplane posted:

I don't get it.

I'm not sure there's much to get. Right wing media hack is crying because one of the guys tapped to review the breach of the Capitol is loudly and publicly ripping into the politicians who cheered on the breach.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Straight White Shark posted:

I'm not sure there's much to get. Right wing media hack is crying because one of the guys tapped to review the breach of the Capitol is loudly and publicly ripping into the politicians who cheered on the breach.

Oh I guess there's a picture missing from the tweet, or something. Sorry.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Pththya-lyi posted:

Trailer for Cruella DeVil's gritty origin story dropped today:
https://twitter.com/BrotiGupta/status/1362080818286354438?s=20

as the great demi adejuyigbe said:
"absolutely gutted to announce that there isn’t a single instance of cruella de vil that i haven’t been horny for :("

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!
https://twitter.com/zkat__/status/1362154461825691651

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/RobertEFuller/status/1362020365460004866?s=20

Apprentice Dick
Dec 1, 2009

feedmyleg posted:

e: Claire's new channel is fun but lacks the "challenge" competition show feeling of her junk food show. I haven't heard anything problematic about her.

I think the biggest issue with her new stuff is that she is focusing her videos only on recipes from her recent cook book. That type of content is kind of dry and is at a basic level instructional content. The gourmet makes stuff was mostly entertainment focused on how she dealt with the challenge with instruction sprinkled in.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/thetaxgoblin/status/1362090919818792966

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

It would have been so much less effort to say "Freddi Fish and HL1 go together better than you'd think."

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!

decriminalize horny for personal use, but still punish those with intent to distribute horny

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
The horny dealers are victims too

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The criminaliztion of horny distribution only supports the unethical production of horny while doing nothing to curtail the demand for it. Only when the production of horny is collectivized in the hands of the workers can there be truly ethical horny.

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

Mauser posted:

decriminalize horny for personal use, but still punish those with intent to distribute horny


Milo and POTUS posted:

The horny dealers are victims too

I don't want to live in a world where I can only get legal horny from government-run horny distribution centres, so how about we keep distribution legal for horny that you've produced yourself. That way otherwise vulnerable horny producers are protected and can earn a living, but potentially exploitative horny middlemen like pimps and pornographers are kept in check.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!
In Joe Biden's socialist America, you'll wait for hours in a line to get your daily OnlyFans ration.

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

https://twitter.com/bafeldman/status/1362501715216506881

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SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

number 1 snake fan posted:

Does anyone know if Hunzi is doing anything these days?

He's back at BA working with Brad on It's Alive, it was confirmed by Brad 4 months ago or so.

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