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Thinking I will get a Mister at some point this year mainly for arcade and microcomputer stuff, since I am pretty flushed with home consoles. I'm very excited to see that Cave Gen 1 and CPS2 appear to be possible, but I would plunk down the cash immediately if CPS3 or CV1000 (Mushihimesama, Espgaluda, etc) ever get supported. Is there any hope either will be possible some day? It wouldn't be a deal breaker if not but it would definitely increase my incentive.
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I'm not a dev but I think the current big projects are hitting the limits of both what the system can handle and what devs can possibly do. PS1 will be coming eventually, and the guy who did the SNES core (srg320) has started a Saturn project recently but even he's not sure if it'll fit in the MiSTer. Jotego (the dev on the CPS1 and 2 cores) said this last year when he was working on CPS1 and was asked if CPS3 was possible: https://twitter.com/topapate/status/1260651228507168768 MiSTer is a massive amazing project already, but I think the the big exciting leaps still available will be older items still in progress, like the X68000, PC88, and PC98 cores. IMHO get into for what it already has, if more comes, well you got that for free. I had mine set up before there even was SNES support, so this has been a real trip seeing it grow. But even if it never had grown, I would still be talking it up to my friends about how great it is.
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Feb 18, 2021 20:25
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Getting savestates and rewind on Gameboy spoiled me a bit and there's a big part of me that would really like to see if that can be done on more cores.
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Feb 18, 2021 20:38
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elf help book posted:IMHO get into for what it already has, if more comes, well you got that for free. I had mine set up before there even was SNES support, so this has been a real trip seeing it grow. But even if it never had grown, I would still be talking it up to my friends about how great it is. When I let myself daydream about cores we haven't seen yet, I find myself coming back to beat-em-up arcade titles like The Simpsons, Ninja Turtles, X-Men, and even that Data East Avengers game.
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Feb 18, 2021 20:39
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I picked one up because it was cheaper than getting odes and a replacement pce to replace my busted sega cd and turboduo. getting rgb out without any mods was bonus, having a nes with clean video output was bonus, replacing my consolized neogeo which I never use because multicarts never have the games I want to play on them is bonus. the arcade cores, the amiga core, being able to play a gba on full sized screen, all bonus. like, if you're sitting on the fence and the initial investment isn't a hardship, it's a box that's filled with unexpected wonders and more keep getting added to it. if the passive cooling aluminum cases do a decent job of keeping it cool and it can run without fan noise, it's totally unobtrusive, tiny and covers a really large swath of game consoles, arcade machines and computers from the early '70s up to the mid '90s
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Feb 18, 2021 22:06
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The Voice of Labor posted:order one of these now and maybe it will have come in by the time you get the rest of your decisions squared away Thank you. I'll be looking into that Blister board. Why should I get the VGA/Composite adapter? Shouldn't I probably stick with my component input on my CRT? If so, what's the best way to get that signal to my TV?
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Feb 18, 2021 22:22
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Yes, I have been astounded at the depth of stuff here. Neo Geo and the potential for PS1 is what tipped the scale on me buying a Mister. However I've found so much there that I never got to play with before or was never practical to that it's been a huge source of value for me. Particularly stuff that it's simply not reasonable to get functional maintained hardware and have it take up space in my home. The other thing is that it has all been relatively easy to get running. The scripting and updates are pretty good and get you 90% of the way there. A few special cases require a little more massaging but not that much.
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Feb 18, 2021 22:23
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Chinook posted:Thank you. I'll be looking into that Blister board. the board gives you s-video. but yeah, if you have component ins that would probably be the way to go. I don't know how to go from the vga out on the io board to component though and from my experience trying to get a usable s-video signal, it's probably going to be less straight forward than grabbing the first signal converter that comes up on amazon
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What's next after the DE10? It's been out a few years so I imagine another, more powerful, solution is waiting in the wings. It seems like just a matter of time before late 90s/early 00s stuff is able to be FPGA'd. Or am I totally misunderstanding the tech?
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Feb 18, 2021 22:58
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The Voice of Labor posted:the board gives you s-video. but yeah, if you have component ins that would probably be the way to go. I don't know how to go from the vga out on the io board to component though and from my experience trying to get a usable s-video signal, it's probably going to be less straight forward than grabbing the first signal converter that comes up on amazon Thank you for your reply. I’ll start doing my research. I appreciate your previous suggestions, too.
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Feb 18, 2021 23:24
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Waltzing Along posted:What's next after the DE10? It's been out a few years so I imagine another, more powerful, solution is waiting in the wings. It seems like just a matter of time before late 90s/early 00s stuff is able to be FPGA'd. Or am I totally misunderstanding the tech?
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Feb 18, 2021 23:36
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Want if we find a way to duct tape two de10 nanos together 
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Feb 18, 2021 23:39
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Honestly, just turn it up to 11. Simple.
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Feb 19, 2021 00:11
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Waltzing Along posted:What's next after the DE10? It's been out a few years so I imagine another, more powerful, solution is waiting in the wings. It seems like just a matter of time before late 90s/early 00s stuff is able to be FPGA'd. Or am I totally misunderstanding the tech? Get started writing a PS2 core now. Maybe you'll be done by the time a MiSTer 2 exists.
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Feb 19, 2021 00:15
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hatty posted:Want if we find a way to duct tape two de10 nanos together n64 emulation. if you tape 4 together you can do gamecube
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Feb 19, 2021 01:40
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The Voice of Labor posted:the board gives you s-video. but yeah, if you have component ins that would probably be the way to go. I don't know how to go from the vga out on the io board to component though and from my experience trying to get a usable s-video signal, it's probably going to be less straight forward than grabbing the first signal converter that comes up on amazon Getting component out of the analog io board only requires a vga to component cable and editing the ini to ypbpr =1. It's incredibly simple and doesn't require anything fancy on the cable front, though obviously quality matters. I've been using a junk vga to component cable I found in my miscellaneous cable bin and it worked just fine.
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Feb 19, 2021 04:33
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Jadius posted:Getting component out of the analog io board only requires a vga to component cable and editing the ini to ypbpr =1. It's incredibly simple and doesn't require anything fancy on the cable front, though obviously quality matters. I've been using a junk vga to component cable I found in my miscellaneous cable bin and it worked just fine. I bought the VGA to component cable from https://misteraddons.com/ and it works great.
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Feb 19, 2021 05:08
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Hot Stunt posted:I bought the VGA to component cable from https://misteraddons.com/ and it works great. Monoprice sells what appears to be identical cable for a fair bit cheaper.
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Feb 19, 2021 05:25
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Bonobos posted:Monoprice sells what appears to be identical cable for a fair bit cheaper. If it's the same one then it's definitely worth picking up. I didn't really shop around because I wanted all my stuff to arrive at once.
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Nate RFB posted:The "problem" is that the reason the DE10 is so attractive is that it's subsidized since ostensibly its intended use is for Universities. The next hypothetical upgrade is thousands of dollars rather than hundreds. So "what's next" remains to be seen since who knows what will or won't fall under that category in the future. Yeah, the degree to which it's discounted (or, really, to which the FPGA on it is marked up) is absolutely absurd. The DE-10 Nano costs less than just getting the FPGA on it by itself ($135 for the DE-10 Nano vs. $228 for the model of Cyclone V on it). Until you can get another FPGA board with a more powerful FPGA than the 5CSEBA6U23I7 for around the same price, we probably won't see a MiSTer successor.
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hatty posted:Want if we find a way to duct tape two de10 nanos together The limiting factor for something like this becomes the performance of the interconnect between the boards. Presumably users with no I/O boards or the digital board could use the second set of GPIOs for some kind of high speed interface, considering it's been discussed as a place to add more RAM if it was ever needed, but it's still a lot more limiting than what can be done within a single larger FPGA. You'd also only gain systems that had a lot of independent components to simulate which could be split up reasonably, anything with larger single components is still out of the question. And that's not even getting in to the complication of synchronizing the boards loading cores, resetting, etc. It's not impossible but it's unlikely that it'll ever make sense.
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Looks like Misteraddons is back open. Does he not have the Analog IO board? edit: Derp, that's the standard one is this basically what I should be grabbing? 
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Feb 20, 2021 01:13
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get the blister not the usb hub also a case
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Feb 20, 2021 01:39
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The Voice of Labor posted:get the blister not the usb hub Where do I buy the blister? What cables would I need to connect it? And what case? I know it’s a lot of questions but I appreciate it.
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when mister addons gets cases in stock, they have variants for -every- configuration. here's the blister board and snac cables. note that the blister board just is the usb hub but with inputs better split between usb and snac serial, however you were intending to connect your mister main board to the usb hub, you'd do the same with the blister. you need a dedicated snac cable for every system, ie. if you have 2 nes controllers and 1 snes controller, you would need 2 nes snac cables and 1 snes snac cable. https://bliss-box.net/store/ hooking the usb hub to the main board, there are two ways to do it, but the little u bracket micro usb passthrough thingy seems fine. you'll probably get one packaged with your order. The Voice of Labor fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Feb 20, 2021 |
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The Voice of Labor posted:
I don't see a link... Thanks for the info on cases. I'll keep an eye out
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lol, yeah, I suck at posting. fixed
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bliss-box seems to be out of a lot of the snac cables. (SNES for instance). Does this work as a regular USB hub if needed, to use whatever 8bitdo controllers I have in the meantime, until they restock?
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it's got 5 regular usb ports. so it's like 5 usb/2 serial as opposed to the usb hub which is 7 usb ports. e: you'll also need snac adapters, one per port so 2 or 3 of these guys https://misteraddons.com/products/serial-native-accessory-converter-snac it adds more to the cost than I would really like, but if it's supported by the core, 0 latency original hardware controllers are really the way to go The Voice of Labor fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Feb 20, 2021 |
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The Voice of Labor posted:it's got 5 regular usb ports. so it's like 5 usb/2 serial as opposed to the usb hub which is 7 usb ports. Sweet. Thanks. Got the DE-10 coming from elsewhere, will buy the standard IO board, 128mb RAM, and VGA to component cable from misteraddons. And I'll grab the blisster board from your link. Should be all I need for the short term, huh? I'm just sure I'm forgetting some cable or power supply
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Chinook posted:Looks like Misteraddons is back open. Does he not have the Analog IO board? You need a power cable.
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Waltzing Along posted:You need a power cable. Is this good? What is generally recommended? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078RT3ZPS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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https://misteraddons.com/products/in-line-power-switch the power brick is an lte 5v 2 amp model pn lte12ws-s1 The Voice of Labor fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Feb 20, 2021 |
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Feb 20, 2021 02:43
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The Voice of Labor posted:https://misteraddons.com/products/in-line-power-switch His USB board comes with the split power already. So you just need the normal power adapter with a switch on it. Unless you decide to spend the extra $100 for a blisster. I have the normal USB and use an xbox wired controller and it is fine. I can see the appeal of original controllers, though.
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Like this? https://www.amazon.com/UPBRIGHT-Addonics-LTE12W-S1-LTE12WS1E-AAPAC5V-UK/dp/B0748CZZMG
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If you are hooking it to a CRT I feel that Blister / SNAC would be overkill if you're looking to save a bit of cash. A wireless xbox one controller is pretty serviceable to me. Not all cores support SNAC either. Have a look at the spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KlRObr3Be4zLch7Zyqg6qCJzGuhyGmXaOIUrpfncXIM/edit#gid=0 Depends how sensitive to latency you are I guess.
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Waltzing Along posted:His USB board comes with the split power already. Yeah I ended up getting the blisster so I'll probably need the splitter. I have all the original controllers and honestly I really would like to use them, so I might as well have the option down the road. Will wait for a bit until the adapters are in stock, though (and I want to buy the snac adapter cables, ugh)
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Chinook posted:Like this? if the barrel plug is the right size, yeah.
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Waltzing Along posted:His USB board comes with the split power already. blister is $80, usb hub is $50...yeah I guess when you figure in the additional cost of snac adapters and cables that does end up being an extra 100+
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The Voice of Labor posted:if the barrel plug is the right size, yeah. But doesn't the DE10 nano kit come with a power supply? That should work, right?
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