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That has a lot to do with the team's roster too They just won 4 games in a season where Deshaun threw for almost 5000 yards, 33 TD and 7 picks and ran for 450 with 3 TD. It's not like they're overflowing with talent And they absolutely have a history of former players talking about how bad it was to be there
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Declan MacManus posted:you'll notice the rest of the team hasn't asked their way off just yet, and agents aren't doing targeted leaks of "everybody wants the gently caress out of here" It's also the off season.
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Being an NFL player is too attractive and precarious for most players to care a ton over which of the 32 teams they're on. Draft picks have no choice, plenty of fringe vets will be happy just to stay in the league, and some higher end FAs will play in Houston if the money is better there than elsewhere. So basically what someone said upthread about how the Raiders used to be. Maybe a little worse, but still enough to field an occasionally competitive team.
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Intruder posted:That has a lot to do with the team's roster too Andre Johnson went to Twitter to say deshaun needed to get the gently caress out. I legit don't know how much more of a red flag you need than that.
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dirty shrimp money posted:Missouri has some crazy enough folks right? Like St. Louis? St. Louis Missourians after Houston voters flat reject a NRG Stadium improvements bond? As a STL person: —most people here grew up either Catholic or Lutheran, and while there has been some megachurch movement here of late they’re always seen as a bit...off. Plus we had Kurt Warner and his Jesus thing, and we kinda held our noses with him cos he won. Easterby’s act would go over like a lead balloon. —Right now the only thing we want from the NFL is several billion dollars for loving us over with the Rams move. Football-wise, Mizzou is good again and KA-KAW is scheduled to come back in 2022, so we are fine as is.
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# ? Feb 16, 2021 19:47 |
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are mizzou fans happy with mizzou?
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They produce Super Bowl champion quarterbacks, such as Blaine Gabbert, and that’s a fact!
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Declan MacManus posted:are mizzou fans happy with mizzou? By and large yes. Drinkwitz (the new HC) has really created a buzz around the program and is making a lot of smart moves.
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Laslow posted:They produce Super Bowl champion quarterbacks, such as Blaine Gabbert, and that’s a fact! Whoa there, mother FUCKER!
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That burner account is still going btw.
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Troy Queef posted:As a STL person: The NFL counters with we will give you an expansion team for a 5 billion dollar non refundable application fee, when we get around to it.
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A fun read https://twitter.com/aaronjreiss/status/1362397587295203335
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# ? Feb 18, 2021 16:28 |
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Please post it.
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FizFashizzle posted:Please post it. quote:Oh, poo poo.
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# ? Feb 18, 2021 16:51 |
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none of the stuff about Easterby and the Texans is particularly surprising, but this os:quote:League executives with other teams said the Texans shopped Hopkins for months — and his demand for a top-of-the-market extension limited his trade value giving the best receiver a contract that reflects his skills limited his trade value? really? GMs are stupid
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Video games have permanently hosed up my concept of receiver value (you can always find someone with 90+ speed cheap, and that's literally all that matters)
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indigi posted:none of the stuff about Easterby and the Texans is particularly surprising, but this os: That just can't be the complete picture. I feel like the Texans must just not understand how negotiations work and figured teams' first offers were also their best offers. Anyway, my favorite part of the article were the bullet points that showed why the trade was Good, Actually.
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I love how they pointed out how deep the WR class was and then traded for Cooks and didn't draft a WR
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fsif posted:Anyway, my favorite part of the article were the bullet points that showed why the trade was Good, Actually. And then immediately went back on one of the most significant justifying bullet points they provided quote:As for that “very valuable” second-round pick the Texans acquired in the Hopkins trade: The team didn’t use it to dip into a deep pool of receivers. With Notre Dame receiver Chase Claypool still on the board, as well as defensive rookie of the year candidate Antoine Winfield Jr., the Texans picked Ross Blacklock, a defensive lineman from TCU who played just 23 percent of the defense’s snaps.
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Acquiring Arizona’s 2021 fourth-round pick was important part of deal that nobody talks about. That sentence above reads like a forum shitpost joke but it was literally a bullet point.
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General Dog posted:Video games have permanently hosed up my concept of receiver value (you can always find someone with 90+ speed cheap, and that's literally all that matters) AKA the Al Davis approach
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# ? Feb 18, 2021 18:23 |
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Crossquoting from N/V:
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# ? Feb 18, 2021 19:11 |
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when it comes to the watson situation i don't know how much i blame it on easterby and how much i blame it on a sort of intrinsic cultural divide between the people who own sports teams and the people who play on sports teams i don't want to say millionaire athletes are more *normal* than billionaire financiers, since to reach the position of pro athlete you have to be a crazed obsessive by any normal person's standards but if you're an athlete you probably didn't grow up that rich (barring the rare born-with-a-silver spoon character like brady or a manning), probably grew up with something approximating normal relationships, still experience a degree of precarity since your career is short and the golden parachute doesn't work for you in quite the same way it does for finance guys, etc watson's issues with the organization are totally understandable from a regular person's perspective (doesn't like Cal, feels disrespected by Cal, doesn't have confidence in the organization since Cal is so attached to easterby), but Cal probably can't compute them since those aren't things your brain understands if you grew up amid billionaire wealth. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Feb 18, 2021 |
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Those bullet points are hilarious lol he’s saying the same exact thing multiple times. This dude makes 500k a year+ and he’s rocking college level presentations
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Amy Pole Her posted:Those bullet points are hilarious lol he’s saying the same exact thing multiple times. Easterby makes over 3 million a year lol
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Good god what’s his title? That’s more than most GMs.
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His Dark Lord
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Is he still a character coach. Because that being a title is still crazy to me
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Glad to know bat boy made something of himself.
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Neil Armbong posted:Glad to know bat boy made something of himself. god I haven't thought about Bat Boy in years, and the resemblance is unmistakable
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Neil Armbong posted:Glad to know bat boy made something of himself. I think you'll find the real Bat Boy is the former Governor and current junior Senator of Florida.
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# ? Feb 18, 2021 20:48 |
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That man's head looks like a light bulb. Like if you gently pinched the top and rotated you'd hear a faint metallic screeching as his entire cranium loosened from the rest of his body.
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skaboomizzy posted:I think you'll find the real Bat Boy is the former Governor and current junior Senator of Florida. Has anyone actually seen Easterby and Scott together in the same room?
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fsif posted:Anyway, my favorite part of the article were the bullet points that showed why the trade was Good, Actually.
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PupsOfWar posted:when it comes to the watson situation i don't know how much i blame it on easterby and how much i blame it on a sort of intrinsic cultural divide between the people who own sports teams and the people who play on sports teams otoh, if there’s one thing rich and powerful people understand, it’s respect. maybe not cal mcnair specifically
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Declan MacManus posted:otoh, if there’s one thing rich and powerful people understand, it’s respect. i don't know about that or rather i don't know that they understand it in the same sense that a player would they understand hierarchy, they spend their whole lives either schmoozing to bigger rich guys or expecting smaller rich guys to schmooze to them but like..."I respect this person's abilities and appreciate the opportunity to collaborate with them" type respect, no you have that with teammates and family and coworkers, which billionaires don't have basically what I'm getting at is billionaires are all solipsistic sociopaths who believe they're the only person who exists , they might understand social inputs and outputs in the way you'd understand pushing a button, but they don't understand relationships beyond that. They're like squids. when watson says "cal, i don't like you, i refuse to work for you any more" i think cal doesn't get it because the only "work" a billionaire ever does is cutting deals with people they don't care about in order to gain advantage over other people they don't care about. Not one of them would ever think of refusing to do something on principle or out of personal disdain.
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PupsOfWar posted:i don't know about that I don't doubt that DeShaun dislikes Cal but my impression as a casual outsider was that it's more about how poorly Houston has managed it's assets (and rightly, he doesn't want to waste his physical prime on an awful team) is that not correct?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I don't doubt that DeShaun dislikes Cal but my impression as a casual outsider was that it's more about how poorly Houston has managed it's assets (and rightly, he doesn't want to waste his physical prime on an awful team) is that not correct? The thing that started this was him getting iced out of the coaching search after being promised input
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I don't doubt that DeShaun dislikes Cal but my impression as a casual outsider was that it's more about how poorly Houston has managed it's assets (and rightly, he doesn't want to waste his physical prime on an awful team) is that not correct? I'd buy that if watson had signed his big extension before the hopkins trade But he signed it afterwards, and after o'brien's other famously bad moves Gotta be something there beyond concern over the roster
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