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Botw is fun most of the time because they're all ameteur filmakers and they seem to have genuine affection for at least some of the movies they watch. They give a perspective that a lot of bad movie reviewers don't with their observations about low budget film making techniques and craft. The wheel and black spine videos are a treasure trove of VHS weirdness although they definitely are less sympathetic to the strange personalities behind weird instructional videos about pregnant yoga or whatever. HITB is usually okay but its been great since there stopped being high profile blockbuster movies for them to review and complain about. Nerd crew was funny but it never hit the comedic highs of that actual disney marvel podcast guy losing his poo poo because he didn't get to cover the opening of StarWars Land. Re:view is generally them talking about stuff they either like or find interesting and its their best show when they're not talking about new trek. I really liked the one on Psycho and its oft forgotten sequels.
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Feb 19, 2021 01:12
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The Eraserhead Re:view is also a very good one, just because that movie in general is such a thing no doubt.
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Feb 19, 2021 01:13
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Yardbomb posted:Wheel of the Worst is the instant click for me. I'll never get over Night Of The Lepus and them losing their poo poo over the rabbit screams and the whole thing in general.
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Feb 19, 2021 02:04
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Ok, I'm gonna jump on the grenade: I actually still get a laugh out of a lot of the early Plinkett skit stuff. Obviously it's dark and off-color, but a lot of the humor still lands for me. That said, it got progressively less funny and more forced as the videos kept going. I think I've said it before, but the part in the Titanic video where he actually kills a lady on-screen through his bumbling was about the point where I tapped out.
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Feb 19, 2021 05:12
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The low effort "final battle" between Nadine and Plinkett was the appropriate capper to that weird meta story.
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Feb 19, 2021 05:17
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I appreciate that people like RLM but I can't even get through the first prequel video without getting annoyed at both the weird "you should have done X" rewriting stuff and feeling like I'm being asked to laugh at him obliviously ignoring his basement prisoner.
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Feb 19, 2021 05:30
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BFC posted:I appreciate that people like RLM but I can't even get through the first prequel video without getting annoyed at both the weird "you should have done X" rewriting stuff and feeling like I'm being asked to laugh at him obliviously ignoring his basement prisoner. You have to remember the time it was made in. Making videos that length at the time was seen as really nitpicky and people often dismissed them as someone who was an obsessed nerd nitpicking without anything meaningful to say. The Plinkett character gave them a shield of sorts where they fully leaned into that idea, basically saying if this basement dwelling serial killer can see the problems why can’t you guys. It actually worked and people took the video more seriously than they would have otherwise. It also helps that it was genuinely funny , especially if you like gallows type humour. Plus the jokes were always at characters expense, similar to Dennis from It’s Always Sunny where they’re making fun of the character being creepy and gross. Some of it has aged poorly, but a lot of it is still really funny even now.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:18
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So what's funny about a woman chained to a radiator in the basement being threatened?
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Feb 19, 2021 06:20
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It’s edgy and over the top. It doesn’t hold up now but a lot of comedy then was funny due to how hosed up it was.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:23
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So women suffering is funny. Good to know. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 19, 2021 06:24
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I mean you can play it like that. And whatever. I’m just talkin about the tone of the past. Push the envelope = instant comedy. Hangover 2 had a scene where Ed Helms gets raped and that was the joke. That he got raped. And then people finally spoke up.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:26
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Vagabundo posted:So what's funny about a woman chained to a radiator in the basement being threatened? Vagabundo posted:So women suffering is funny. Good to know. You gotta keep the suffering at juuuuust the right temperature before it gets unpalatable. You kidnap a kid or a dog and no one's on your side. If you use a guy then nobody cares and the world keeps on turning. You can't use a celebrity because that's the same problem.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:28
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Vagabundo posted:So women suffering is funny. Good to know. It's not, which is the point. The comedy is meant to come from the juxtaposition of such a serious subject with the discussion of an all-ages space movie. (This is not meant as a defence of its use).
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Feb 19, 2021 06:31
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See, they should've just gone with cannibal butcher slowly depopulating the neighborhood. Put a hockey mask up in the shot and have some kind of identifying props showing that they were a bunch of teenagers and hoo boy, the internet would be all over that.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:35
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Vagabundo posted:So women suffering is funny. Good to know. It’s not. The joke was this guys a crazy person making weirdly valid points on a sci fi movie that at the end of the day doesn’t really matter.. It’s the juxtaposition between the two that makes it funny. That’s why i drew the comparison to It’s Always Sunny, the joke is the character themselves for being awful.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:35
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Yeah, the bit was more "hah, the super SW nerd is also some sort of serial killer, that's surprising...ish?", which of course has some hosed up conotations, but the laughs were more about the contrast than the actual suffering. Of course that reply was worded as bad faithfully as possible so I know they know that, but anyway.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:40
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Vagabundo posted:So women suffering is funny. Good to know.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:44
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"Why do we need Plinkett to be a serial killer who murders women in our Star Wars review" is the equivalent of "Why do we need Anakin to be a child murderer and tortured burn victim in our Darth Vader origin story trilogy for all-ages (until Episode 3)", and that's the point.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:45
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^ this makes a little more sense to me, considering I didn't stick it out to see if it paid off obviously I don't think it remotely accomplishes the goal of making his points seem obvious or reasonable in the face of him being a serial killer. And while I appreciate the effort at juxtaposition for dark laughs, it's just a bit too real and genuine for me to find it funny.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:48
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Honestly, the fact that they managed to build such a massive youtube channel off of just one woman's death is pretty impressive on its own. Imagine how many corpses Pewdiepie must have in his mansion's 11 basements.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:49
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BFC posted:^ this makes a little more sense to me, considering I didn't stick it out to see if it paid off obviously I mean that’s cool, it’s definitely not for everyone. They themselves have almost completely moved away from stuff in that area , so they must agree it’s not funny anymore.
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Feb 19, 2021 06:55
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That poo poo put me off of the Plinkett reviews as soon as I saw them. I don't think I even sat through the rest of that overlong whinge about TPM, let alone any of the other prequel videos.
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Feb 19, 2021 07:05
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BFC posted:^ this makes a little more sense to me, considering I didn't stick it out to see if it paid off obviously I think arguments about the bit being some grand overarching meta critique miss the point that no matter how elaborate and justified the use was it still fundamentally doesn't change that it'll remind some people of some bad poo poo. Nobody's a monster for liking a joke others would legitimately think was in bad taste nor are RLM horrible bigots for making content in the past that would be less acceptable in today's cultural climate. Just like don't be a jerk to people who are upset about it they probably have a good reason.
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Feb 19, 2021 07:27
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Also I don't really know what to make any more of the "joke" in the Plinkett reviews that people who are Nth level deep obsessives over Star Wars are probably serial killers with very hosed up issues regarding women when less then a decade later, people who were Nth level deep obsessed over Star Wars stalked and harassed several women involved in the production of Star Wars to the point where one lived in fear for her life for an unsmall stretch of time and another contemplated suicide as a means of escape from that obsessive misogyny. Also they're still to this day harassing women of colour who dare associate themselves with Star Wars. So life drat near smacked a bullseye when it came to imitating art on that one...
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Feb 19, 2021 08:21
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nine-gear crow posted:Also I don't really know what to make any more of the "joke" in the Plinkett reviews that people who are Nth level deep obsessives over Star Wars are probably serial killers with very hosed up issues regarding women when less then a decade later, people who were Nth level deep obsessed over Star Wars stalked and harassed several women involved in the production of Star Wars to the point where one lived in fear for her life for an unsmall stretch of time and another contemplated suicide as a means of escape from that obsessive misogyny. I feel like every awful thing that we all laughed at as a impossible joke has come true in some form in the last four years. Even the low levels of co operation in zombie films feel like they aren't realistic of how it would actually go anymore.
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Feb 19, 2021 08:33
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I checked a nerd forum for news about a Star Wars toy and boy oh boy are they fully anti KK for firing Gina. Good lord. Normally that poo poo makes my blood boil but It really didn’t surprise me. I need the RJ trilogy to happen because it might actually hurt these people.
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Feb 19, 2021 08:35
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CelticPredator posted:I checked a nerd forum for news about a Star Wars toy and boy oh boy are they fully anti KK for firing Gina. I feel like Disney did RJ dirty because they retconned the reveals he had presented at the end of Last Jedi. I thought TLJ was okay but I really enjoyed one theme of it being about dealing with disappointment that could have matured the characters for Episode IX had it not been for Disney hitting the panic button. I had some issues with the sequel trilogy but the biggest one was Disney deciding to handwave stuff like Kylo Ren becoming the ultimate villain and Rey coming from nobody. Not even I believe Disney will commit to the RJ trilogy. He will try something different and Disney will yank him off as soon as it doesn't make a billion or they can't stand all the mad nerds. He should definitely do an episode of Mandalorian, though. DesertIslandHermit fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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Feb 19, 2021 09:17
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DesertIslandHermit posted:I feel like Disney did RJ dirty because they retconned the reveals he had presented at the end of Last Jedi. I thought TLJ was okay but I really enjoyed one theme of it being about dealing with disappointment that could have matured the characters for Episode IX had it not been for Disney hitting the panic button. I had some issues with the sequel trilogy but the biggest one was Disney deciding to handwave stuff like Kylo Ren becoming the ultimate villain and Rey coming from nobody. It's still in the pre-production phase because he's busy making actual movies that aren't nerdwank bait like Knives Out 2 in the meantime. But yeah, I share your anxiety that Disney will Lord & Miller him if he makes something that scares them too much like the original cut of Solo. Rian stopping in to direct an episode of Mando would be great and would pop a fuckton of shitbrains like pimples if it happened, and actually stands a good chance of happening because Johnson actually taught Dave Filoni how to direct for live action on the set of The Last Jedi. If anything, I would love to see him give The Mandalorian its very own Ozymandias and then watch peoples' brains splinter as they contort themselves into Escher shapes to rate it a Purely Objective 0/10 because it was directed by the bad man who made the space wizard movie that made them mad... gently caress what's it been now four years ago now? Bring me my mind pretzels! I demand mind pretzels! nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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Feb 19, 2021 09:42
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I feel like TLJ is a weak movie that gets worse the more you think about it. Several scenes seem really superfluous, I still don't get the point of DJ being around for longer than just the casino planet sequence. I don't really get why the casino planet sequence is a thing either. And its also the best out of the sequel trilogy. It tried to do something different and I respect that. That's all I wanted out of the sequel trilogy, for it to try to do something new with the setting and the lore. I loving love me some Star Wars, but the TFA felt like a shallow retread and I haven't even watched RoS after seeing that Sheev's back and hearing that they walked back on everything TLJ set up. It's really mindboggling to me that there wasn't a real plan set up for how the story in the sequel trilogy was meant to go.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:14
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TLJ has both the best and worst arc of a star wars film in the same film. It also still screws over Boyega.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:17
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Archer666 posted:It's really mindboggling to me that there wasn't a real plan set up for how the story in the sequel trilogy was meant to go. From what I understand, the point was to give it to three directors to share their individual visions of the Star Wars universe. The problem is the first director didn't much like the second's vision, and took the opportunity to bulldoze all the interesting bits when given the opportunity to do so with the third movie. Honestly don't bother seeing RoS unless you really want to. It's an unsalvageably bad film.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:18
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Neddy Seagoon posted:From what I understand, the point was to give it to three directors to share their individual visions of the Star Wars universe. So bad at several points that time has made me unironically think that all the nonsense in the second hal is a half rear end rework of a time travel plot disney forced abrams to remove after rlm and others made that into the biggest joke of the year.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:23
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Archer666 posted:I feel like TLJ is a weak movie that gets worse the more you think about it. Several scenes seem really superfluous, I still don't get the point of DJ being around for longer than just the casino planet sequence. I don't really get why the casino planet sequence is a thing either. Yeah, this is where I am on TLJ. It's a pretty bad movie that imo fails to execute well on most of its ideas, but at least it had ideas and tried to take the series in a new direction. TFA was fine but almost distractingly risk averse, and ROS was too focused on cramming in the optimal focus-test approved level of fanservice while also bending over backwards to retcon TLJ that it forgot it actually needed to be a movie with coherent structure and plot. That Disney didn't even sit down the series heads in a room with some writers to hash out the highest level "first movie covers x, then second movie covers y, then final movie wraps up with z" is just asinine.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:31
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The problem is the first director didn't much like the second's vision, and took the opportunity to bulldoze all the interesting bits when given the opportunity to do so with the third movie. Honestly don't bother seeing RoS unless you really want to. It's an unsalvageably bad film. It's not just unsalvageably bad, it's a loving cowardly and pathetic movie. Cutting down on Rose Tico's role from what had originally been written is nothing more than a capitulation to racist nazi shitfucks. Rise of Skywalker is the only Star War that I left the theatre feeling absolutely disgusted with what I saw. The only reason I didn't just walk out was because I was there with a couple of friends, to be honest. Honestly, the only way that movie can be salvaged in the edit at this point is if it's 3 hours of nothing but people of colour and all lines of dialogue dubbed over with "kill yourselves nazi crybaby fuckfaces" over and over again. At the very least, it'll be an improvement on the utter tripe that we got. gently caress that loving movie and gently caress JJ Abrams, the nazi-enabling gently caress. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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Feb 19, 2021 10:38
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Remember when Boyega and Isaac flat out went to Disney and were all "make us gay cowards, you know we have great chemistry" and not only did Disney refuse but they went out of their way to craft new characters out of whole cloth to be Finn and Poe's waifus in TOS to definitively cement that they are not gay? The second waifu in Finn's case, since his first waifu didn't test well with CHUD's and so had to be scrapped. But don't worry Disney is woke and an LGBT ally, just please don't get in the way of their potential profits.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:44
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Neddy Seagoon posted:From what I understand, the point was to give it to three directors to share their individual visions of the Star Wars universe.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:51
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RoS makes a lot of incredibly bad choices that I can at least understand but I have no idea why they did the thing with Finn wanting to tell Rey something.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:53
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Sydin posted:Yeah, this is where I am on TLJ. It's a pretty bad movie that imo fails to execute well on most of its ideas, but at least it had ideas and tried to take the series in a new direction. TFA was fine but almost distractingly risk averse, and ROS was too focused on cramming in the optimal focus-test approved level of fanservice while also bending over backwards to retcon TLJ that it forgot it actually needed to be a movie with coherent structure and plot. Yeah, I really liked TLJ for trying to do something new after The Force Awakens but I'll be the first to admit it's got problems. The big one being the whole plot really is Holdo's fault because she couldn't just take five minutes to tell a ship of desperate escapees that there was actually a larger plan in play, even if she couldn't give specifics. It's not even hard to tweak into something workable; "This plan's gonna effectively end us regardless, I'm gonna try something a little bit more bold that could save our only capital ship, and the Resistance at-large, and we can use it as a last resort. We've nothing left to lose, good luck Poe you're expandable anyway now that you're demoted, cue ticking clock plot". When it gets things right though, it does them really well like Rey's, well, let's say "intended" origins that made her a far stronger character as her own person succeeding on her own merits. She's not empowered by a destiny, or a name, or title, she was just an everyday woman who was succeeding on her own merits and talents without beating the audience over the head with the messaging. You know, the very thing Disney marketing was trying to use her for.
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Feb 19, 2021 10:57
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I guess my thing was I fuckin hate nerds and just want them to have media they hate out of spite.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:01
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The quality of your space fantasy is inversely proportional to the number of nouns that sound like RPG or TCG key words in your script. And unfortunately the more nerds are catered to the more this happens.
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Feb 19, 2021 11:08
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