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Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

Rockman Reserve posted:



...and then there was gary. on the first day i met gary, when he introduced himself, he mentioned that he used to draw pornography of fantasy poo poo and called it the Dragonriders of Porn, super clever huh. gary would go to the hotel gym while we were on project and walk on a treadmill for hours wearing a big chainmail shirt that must have taken up most of his luggage. gary was weird and offputting to everyone he met immediately and i don't understand how he managed to get through our interview process at all.

This is frankly incredible, I cannot believe this person exists and was hired, like, anywhere. If I saw someone wearing a chain mail shirt in a threadmill I'd assume I lost my mind.

The thread is turning out to be really funny btw, keep it up guys, loving this.

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InternetJunky
May 25, 2002

I just started a new project a few months ago and we're in the phase of the project were 80% of my working day is spent in phone-in meetings, both internal and external. I've noticed a recurring pattern on the calls now, and ever since I did I have started to get irrationally angry whenever the specific event unfolds.

Person A: "No no, that won't work because it will break this system. Isn't that right Person B?"
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person A: "Person B, you're on mute we can't hear you."
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person B: "Oh sorry everyone, I was talking on mute."
<Everyone chuckles>

It happens almost once per call. People keep laughing every time it happens. I don't find it funny. How hard is it to check if you're on mute?

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

InternetJunky
May 25, 2002


If you're trying to talk you're on mute.

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

InternetJunky posted:

I just started a new project a few months ago and we're in the phase of the project were 80% of my working day is spent in phone-in meetings, both internal and external. I've noticed a recurring pattern on the calls now, and ever since I did I have started to get irrationally angry whenever the specific event unfolds.

Person A: "No no, that won't work because it will break this system. Isn't that right Person B?"
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person A: "Person B, you're on mute we can't hear you."
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person B: "Oh sorry everyone, I was talking on mute."
<Everyone chuckles>

It happens almost once per call. People keep laughing every time it happens. I don't find it funny. How hard is it to check if you're on mute?

drat people who didn’t grow up as gamers so muting/unmuting is second nature. I’ve never accidentally been in the wrong mute state. :c00lbutt:

cardinale
Jul 11, 2016

InternetJunky posted:

I just started a new project a few months ago and we're in the phase of the project were 80% of my working day is spent in phone-in meetings, both internal and external. I've noticed a recurring pattern on the calls now, and ever since I did I have started to get irrationally angry whenever the specific event unfolds.

Person A: "No no, that won't work because it will break this system. Isn't that right Person B?"
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person A: "Person B, you're on mute we can't hear you."
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person B: "Oh sorry everyone, I was talking on mute."
<Everyone chuckles>

It happens almost once per call. People keep laughing every time it happens. I don't find it funny. How hard is it to check if you're on mute?
The issue is exacerbated by the fact that a good host will auto-mute everyone who doesn't come in muted until they need to speak, but oblivious people won't realise that's happened to them.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

InternetJunky posted:

I just started a new project a few months ago and we're in the phase of the project were 80% of my working day is spent in phone-in meetings, both internal and external. I've noticed a recurring pattern on the calls now, and ever since I did I have started to get irrationally angry whenever the specific event unfolds.

Person A: "No no, that won't work because it will break this system. Isn't that right Person B?"
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person A: "Person B, you're on mute we can't hear you."
<silence for 10 seconds>
Person B: "Oh sorry everyone, I was talking on mute."
<Everyone chuckles>

It happens almost once per call. People keep laughing every time it happens. I don't find it funny. How hard is it to check if you're on mute?

these people are probably not actually at their desk or are toking up or something, I’ve definitely used the “oh sorry I was talking on mute” excuse when someone asks a question so brazenly stupid that I need to think for a few seconds about how to answer without either laughing or yelling at them

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Tetramin posted:

drat people who didn’t grow up as gamers so muting/unmuting is second nature. I’ve never accidentally been in the wrong mute state. :c00lbutt:

I think the only times it ever happens to me is if I flipped a hardware switch and then walked away from my computer for a while. Bad memory and mine has no indicator besides the physical switch position (which is unlabeled too, I think).
Software, nah. Though Teams apparently hates my work computer so much the mic just doesn't work.

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

MA-Horus posted:

my company is global and does a lot of business in japan and germany.
holy gently caress do i get a giggle watching my anglo co-workers try to use japanese and german pre/suffixes/honorifics correctly.

do not, under any circumstances, use -kun when e-mailing a company vp. they do not find it kawaii

Once upon a time, a team adjacent to mine had a supervisor that INSISTED her people use Japanese honorifics when talking to somebody in Japan.

To me, the whole thing felt pretentious and fake. There was no training on how/when/why to use which ones, they were just trying their best based on the opening salutation from the person who sent the email. Luckily my supervisor had no such desire for banality so when they interacted with me, they used their email salutation and I used mine. Simple.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

We have a guy on our team that goes full on "Snake? SNAKE! SNNAAAAAKKKKEEEE!!!" if you don't respond within seconds of being asked a question, even if he isn't the one who asked. I have become incredibly good at getting off mute to say yes or no and then going right back to muted so no one has to hear my keyboard clacking away.


Zarin posted:

Your original message asked why your successor left :ssh:

I should learn to read.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.



If you're trying -


InternetJunky posted:

If you're trying to talk you're on mute.

Sorry.

If you're tr-

InternetJunky posted:

If you're trying to talk you're on mute.

Sorry -

InternetJunky posted:

If you're trying to talk you're on mute.

I'll just, I'll just go on mute.

NapalmWeasel
Aug 10, 2012

Lazyfire posted:

We have a guy on our team that goes full on "Snake? SNAKE! SNNAAAAAKKKKEEEE!!!" if you don't respond within seconds of being asked a question, even if he isn't the one who asked. I have become incredibly good at getting off mute to say yes or no and then going right back to muted so no one has to hear my keyboard clacking away.

Are you answering for other people just so dude shuts up?

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

Barudak posted:

One of the 6 teams Im on has 8 people. 4 of them, including me, put in out notice in the past two weeks. Management gave the four of us a hearfelt plea to work as hard as we can during our exit as they have no one to replace us.

I considered buying an inkstained burlap sack before I looked down on them and whispered "no"

lmao "please work as hard as you can during this time where it means literally the least it ever has"

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
One of the biggest issues I see re: being on mute is the levels of muting available.

At the "top", as it were, is the meeting organizer's ability to mute you. Regardless of what you do, that will override it.

Below that, whatever app your using can mute you in your controls. Ok, unmute within there.

Oh, the hardware button to mute the mic was on, ok, click that to unmute.

Oh, wait, Windows is muting your mic. Ok, where is that setting? Is is sound settings from right clicking the speaker in the system tray, is it volume mier? Is it just the option that says "Sound"?

Oh, sound settings takes you to the Win 10 Settings, and that has some controls, but not what you need...you need to actually go to control panel -> sound, right click the headset, then go to properties, then the Advanced tab, and THEN you can uncheck the box that says "Allow apps to take exclusive control of this device" because you were in a Zoom call earlier, but Zoom is still running in the background and won't release control of the headset to Teams unless you uncheck that box.

Edit: Oh, and plenty of people work in VMs, so in addition to the Windows volume setting of their VM, there's also the volume setting of whatever device they use to connect to the VM, which can be:
Personal laptop or desktop
Company issued laptop
Company issued Wyse thin client
Company issued Windows thin client

DrBouvenstein fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Feb 19, 2021

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I send between 50-150 emails a day so gently caress salutations, it's a same line "Hi Name, and then the content"

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

The Walrus posted:

I send between 50-150 emails a day so gently caress salutations, it's a same line "Hi Name, and then the content"

:same:

I don't like wasting time with superficial bullshit so I try to get to the point.

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

are you guys working at an email factory or what's going on there

stellers bae
Feb 10, 2021

by Hand Knit
I've got a second round of interviews coming up with a company that just found out it was being acquired by a larger firm in the industry - not quite a competitor, but close. Is that a dealbreaker? In telecom it's always horrible to be the one being acquired, whereas you're safe if you're on the other side...

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Son of Rodney posted:

are you guys working at an email factory or what's going on there

I work in retail, lots of communicating with vendors etc. It's gotten better since we got Teams since there's a lot of in-office back and forth.


edit: on a quick check I'm actually down to like 30-40 emails a day on average now, wow. Teams is good.

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

The Walrus posted:

I work in retail, lots of communicating with vendors etc. It's gotten better since we got Teams since there's a lot of in-office back and forth.

Ah, makes sense. I used to work as a dispatcher for electricians and I averaged about 50 a day and thought that was a lot..

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

stellers bae posted:

I've got a second round of interviews coming up with a company that just found out it was being acquired by a larger firm in the industry - not quite a competitor, but close. Is that a dealbreaker? In telecom it's always horrible to be the one being acquired, whereas you're safe if you're on the other side...

As one of the acquirers working with the acquirees for our company: honestly we may well have saved them, I've mentioned some of the weird poo poo their business model ran on but that's only the tip of the iceberg. It's really down to who's doing the acquiring. Some firms will 100% gently caress you for a short term dollar. Some firms really want to see a long term return and will invest in & support you (as long as you're making them money - do not confuse this for charity). Most will be somewhere in the middle, less support than you'd hope for but also less vultures circling overhead.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
i currently work for a company who is undergoing an acquisition and, for all the horror stories of acquisitions i've heard over the years, the company buying ours really seems like they're trying to do everything right, keeping as many jobs as actually makes sense, etc

most people moving to the new company getting raises, benefits are better, though the new company ultimately is owned by a non-profit electric co-op so that probably makes some sort of difference

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

When the pandemic started we were having daily team conference calls every weekday, Monday through Friday

Then it went to M-W-F

Then it went to just Monday and Friday

But not much changes and not many things happen on Fridays anyways, so there's often very little to discuss on Monday, so lately my boss has been somewhat conveniently "having a meeting" at the same time as our Monday or Friday meeting and needing to cancel one of them.

Not a soul has complained.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

AHH F/UGH posted:

When the pandemic started we were having daily team conference calls every weekday, Monday through Friday

Then it went to M-W-F

Then it went to just Monday and Friday

But not much changes and not many things happen on Fridays anyways, so there's often very little to discuss on Monday, so lately my boss has been somewhat conveniently "having a meeting" at the same time as our Monday or Friday meeting and needing to cancel one of them.

Not a soul has complained.

When we started we had T and F meetings. My boss has only made about half of them this year and the meetings are mostly me and our coordinator who both just have questions for our boss. No one else in the department shows up. Today I was the only person in the meeting.

We also have to fill out forms detailing how we spent our time during the day. The forms were for ICS people initially to help report time that FEMA would cover, but for unknown reasons they had all remote workers fill them out. We would turn ours in to our coordinator, who apparently turned her in to...herself?

I stopped doing them a few weeks ago because I mostly just gently caress around and coming up with lies to fill my time was stressful, and no one else was doing them anyway. The coordinator hasn't said anything to me and doesn't seem to care anymore.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

You know things are going swell when your boss dodges any attempts at communication while you work remotely, and when you finally see him in the office and ask whats going on he shrugs and says "beats me".

stellers bae
Feb 10, 2021

by Hand Knit

SkyeAuroline posted:

As one of the acquirers working with the acquirees for our company: honestly we may well have saved them, I've mentioned some of the weird poo poo their business model ran on but that's only the tip of the iceberg. It's really down to who's doing the acquiring. Some firms will 100% gently caress you for a short term dollar. Some firms really want to see a long term return and will invest in & support you (as long as you're making them money - do not confuse this for charity). Most will be somewhere in the middle, less support than you'd hope for but also less vultures circling overhead.

Thanks for the input. I guess I'll try to suss out their take during the interview.

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

titty_baby_ posted:

When we started we had T and F meetings. My boss has only made about half of them this year and the meetings are mostly me and our coordinator who both just have questions for our boss. No one else in the department shows up. Today I was the only person in the meeting.

We also have to fill out forms detailing how we spent our time during the day. The forms were for ICS people initially to help report time that FEMA would cover, but for unknown reasons they had all remote workers fill them out. We would turn ours in to our coordinator, who apparently turned her in to...herself?

I stopped doing them a few weeks ago because I mostly just gently caress around and coming up with lies to fill my time was stressful, and no one else was doing them anyway. The coordinator hasn't said anything to me and doesn't seem to care anymore.

Just a month or two ago I heard my boss asking my coworkers how they felt about when they used to have to do time accounting like that and obviously everyone was like “it loving sucked”. But we got a new VP not too long before that, and he seems pretty chill and laid back, but that made me wonder if he’s considering implementing that.

I get my stuff done correctly and on time, but my attention gets pulled in 15 different directions all day long so actually accounting for the hours worked on what would make me kill myself. Plus lying about the significant amount of time I’m just dinkin around

Barudak
May 7, 2007

A friend had a job where you had to report your time in 15 minute increments. They worked on one piece of business doing one thing full time so it was this agonizing slow click multi-hour long process to tell the system 15 minutes at a time they had the same job they had two weeks ago.

Barudak fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Feb 19, 2021

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Tetramin posted:

Just a month or two ago I heard my boss asking my coworkers how they felt about when they used to have to do time accounting like that and obviously everyone was like “it loving sucked”. But we got a new VP not too long before that, and he seems pretty chill and laid back, but that made me wonder if he’s considering implementing that.

I get my stuff done correctly and on time, but my attention gets pulled in 15 different directions all day long so actually accounting for the hours worked on what would make me kill myself. Plus lying about the significant amount of time I’m just dinkin around

Very not fond of time tracking here either. When I started it was a teamwide goal: get x number of files updated per month. ("files" vary from 2-line excel spreadsheets to several thousand line spreadsheets with wildly variable difficulty, and what we got each month was inconsistent, so this was not a good metric. This is, of course, sroll a metric in use.) When our previous manager was "encouraged" out the door for reasons unknown, one of the sales guys who had never worked with our system took over, and the individual metrics started up. Began as just "how long are you spending on individual tasks", then right around when I came back and moved to the secondary team, turned into full on KPIs. Set a week or two up to record the per-hour progress, averaged it out, and set that as the base minimum. Do what you nornally do every day, and extra is going above and beyond, right?

He did said indexing the week we said we understood the system, with the easiest possible workload we've ever had. So of course the numbers were high. Those numbers are now the expectation even for work that takes 5-10x as long. Yes, deviations from that are followed up on individually (though as mentioned before, the only one of us who regularly doesn't make them has an out up her sleeve preventing any real consequences without a fight). Yes, those expectations will be raised if we sustain a higher rate, too.

I'm pretty sure I spend more mental effort on balancing my workload to not get that increased and to always have somewhere to make up lost productivity/hour than I do on the actual work.

Barudak posted:

A friend had a job where you had to report your time in 15 minute increments. They worked on one piece of business doing one thing full time so it was this agonizing slow click multi-hour long process to tell the system 15 minutes at a time they had the same job they had two weeks ago.

Hi, am I your friend?

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
I used to have to bill my whole day to projects to the 0.25 hr increment. But it's always a game of 'yeah 2 hrs to this 4hrs to that and 2.5 hrs to the other thing, no wait 2 hrs, gotta hit 8 exactly. Whatever'. I don't know anyone who ever actually kept track very accurately.

NapalmWeasel
Aug 10, 2012

Barudak posted:

A friend had a job where you had to report your time in 15 minute increments. They worked on one piece of business doing one thing full time so it was this agonizing slow click multi-hour long process to tell the system 15 minutes at a time they had the same job they had two weeks ago.

The "high-stress/low-pay" job I had required us to report in 6-minute intervals (.1 hour) attributed to either a project or a client general catchall bucket. Even though the client I was Account Focal for was pretty much dead, that general bucket got a LOT of my hours.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
SIX MINUTE INTERVALS!???



"pooped"

"stared into space contemplating my own mortality"

"pet the dog"

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I had a boss for 3 weeks who one day I went in and their door was locked and hr brought all of us who worked with them into a separate room and told us if anyone from the news or police reached out to us to direct them to PR.

If you're wondering what the hell that was about, me too because they didn't tell us anything in the meeting and just booted us from HR after that statement.

So you don't live in suspense like us: the lady had scammed like 600,000 USD out of McDonalds by creating companies and buying advertising with them when they had no inventory

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
Did she flee to the 3rd world and get off scot free? I sure hope so. I hope she's out there in the tropics, fat on the hog and happy. Free like dolphins.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

lmao I fully expect that all my coworkers and boss are all watching YouTube, playing with pets, taking dumps and occasionally taking phone calls or a stray email, and we'll all just part of a mort tontine now and everyone is aware and solemnly, silently complicit

That said, we do a good job and we get our work done when we need to, it's just that the baseline for "work" in this job is essentially 1. Clock in on time 2. Show up sober. With just those two you're basically entitled to a minimum evaluation of 80% on your yearly review.

Like I've literally done gently caress-all today in the 2 hours I've been clocked in except daytrade some stocks, watch YouTube and read the forums.

AHH F/UGH fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Feb 19, 2021

GB Luxury Hamper
Nov 27, 2002

Yeah, I have to record my time in 6 minute intervals. As in, 6 minutes is the smallest amount of time I can record for a specific project/task. I do have a couple of projects that take about 6 minutes per day, then a few in 30 to 90 minute range. Everything else, internal meetings etc, go in the "admin" bucket.

For some reason my boss can't see what I actually record in the system. So last year when HR claimed that I'd taken 50 days of sick leave in March and demanded to see a letter from my doctor, he couldn't review what I'd put in the system. I had to tell him that it was only three days and I didn't have a note from my doc.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.
I was meaning to respond to talk about project managers/digital stuff pages back but never got around to it.

The dumbest person I have ever met, or at least have spoken to for more than a few minutes, was a lady in her early 40s who was hired on as a Freelance Senior Digital Project Manager, for which she was paid somewhere just shy of the equivalent of $1000 per day.

I don't work with anything digital, and at the time, the most I did was vaguely liaised with their team on certain bits and pieces. But what became very quickly apparent was that this woman didn't know anything about technology whatsoever. I have no idea how she passed an interview, I just assume her CV was completely forged and she blagged through it. The main project (among others) was building a website for a big client and she was meant to be directing priorities and mediating with the client through the process or something, whatever the gently caress a project manager actually does.

I think almost all of the most awkward career experiences of my life were at the hands of this woman. I was basically a junior copywriter (also freelance) working on a bunch of stuff, so pretty tangential to her, yet she would basically rope helpless subordinates into these nightmarish conference calls, including me, where she basically deflected all questions from clients to the team members directly because she was completely clueless about literally everything. She was almost incapable of using a computer or the internet, and soon every single non-management person in her orbit complained constantly. You couldn't actually talk to her normally because she would basically freeze up and go boggle eyed if you said anything slightly complicated, so everybody had to talk to her like a small child.

Her average day consisted of coming in late, leaving early and taking 2 hours for lunch everyday to do some yoga thing. In the office all she did was shop online and, as it turned out, fielded and then sat on increasing angry client emails and calls. It came to a head at one point 2-3 weeks in where she put a call on hold and came over to me with this panicked look and said there was a call for me on the line and forwarded it to me. I got on the line and it was the account manager for the client who was almost in tears of frustration at the other end of the line, who went on this rant about how they were on the verge of cancelling the whole project because this lady "couldn't follow even the most basic instructions." I had to apologise and say that I didn't even really work there or on that project but I would talk to management, which I did, alerting them to the fact that she was the most incredible moron and that the client was nearly cancelling everything.

There was complete radio silence for several days after they said they would look into it. Management then returned that they were completely satisfied with her performance and extended her contract for like three more weeks, but got some other account manager to handle the client emails from then on. The project finished without her input whatsoever and she left when the contract was up, having made like $50,000 for doing nothing but act as an impediment to everyone.

Of course, when you put it like that, she seems like the smartest person I ever met.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

NapalmWeasel posted:

Are you answering for other people just so dude shuts up?

I'm the person responsible for ordering and then tracking every part for every program in the group, so 9/10 of the time questions are either directed at me ("when will this be on order?" "when will these be on site?" "Can we get this part we forgot to load into demand like four months ago?") or to the build team. I just have to be ready to get off mute most of the meeting just so I don't have to talk over a guy who starts talking about how you must have lost your connection if you don't respond immediately.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Charles Bukowski posted:

Did she flee to the 3rd world and get off scot free? I sure hope so. I hope she's out there in the tropics, fat on the hog and happy. Free like dolphins.

Getting strong Dee vibes here.

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poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Jeza posted:

I was meaning to respond to talk about project managers/digital stuff pages back but never got around to it.

The dumbest person I have ever met, or at least have spoken to for more than a few minutes, was a lady in her early 40s who was hired on as a Freelance Senior Digital Project Manager, for which she was paid somewhere just shy of the equivalent of $1000 per day.

I don't work with anything digital, and at the time, the most I did was vaguely liaised with their team on certain bits and pieces. But what became very quickly apparent was that this woman didn't know anything about technology whatsoever. I have no idea how she passed an interview, I just assume her CV was completely forged and she blagged through it. The main project (among others) was building a website for a big client and she was meant to be directing priorities and mediating with the client through the process or something, whatever the gently caress a project manager actually does.

I think almost all of the most awkward career experiences of my life were at the hands of this woman. I was basically a junior copywriter (also freelance) working on a bunch of stuff, so pretty tangential to her, yet she would basically rope helpless subordinates into these nightmarish conference calls, including me, where she basically deflected all questions from clients to the team members directly because she was completely clueless about literally everything. She was almost incapable of using a computer or the internet, and soon every single non-management person in her orbit complained constantly. You couldn't actually talk to her normally because she would basically freeze up and go boggle eyed if you said anything slightly complicated, so everybody had to talk to her like a small child.

Her average day consisted of coming in late, leaving early and taking 2 hours for lunch everyday to do some yoga thing. In the office all she did was shop online and, as it turned out, fielded and then sat on increasing angry client emails and calls. It came to a head at one point 2-3 weeks in where she put a call on hold and came over to me with this panicked look and said there was a call for me on the line and forwarded it to me. I got on the line and it was the account manager for the client who was almost in tears of frustration at the other end of the line, who went on this rant about how they were on the verge of cancelling the whole project because this lady "couldn't follow even the most basic instructions." I had to apologise and say that I didn't even really work there or on that project but I would talk to management, which I did, alerting them to the fact that she was the most incredible moron and that the client was nearly cancelling everything.

There was complete radio silence for several days after they said they would look into it. Management then returned that they were completely satisfied with her performance and extended her contract for like three more weeks, but got some other account manager to handle the client emails from then on. The project finished without her input whatsoever and she left when the contract was up, having made like $50,000 for doing nothing but act as an impediment to everyone.

Of course, when you put it like that, she seems like the smartest person I ever met.

Tell me more. Tell me exactly how she got this job, and how she kept it. Include specifics, please

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