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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Are you paying for vaccines in the US? What's the cost? no they are “free “
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fischtick posted:I used to say it scares me that the older I get, the more I like trains. The quarantine has shown me there's something both better and worse out there: birds. we have a Townsend warbler that eats bugs in our yard all the time and my youngest is super creative and named him Yellowie.
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SchnorkIes posted:You also can't really show the inside of an american hospital yeah but I still wonder how much it would matter People panicked last year at the idea of an uncontrolled pandemic, but the reality kind of just washed over everyone like no big deal. I think you get that one big break for most people, but it's not going to impact behavior over the long term unless authority figures are telling you that it's dangerous to go outside. The people in positions of authority in the US never got farther than telling people to maybe limit their activities a little bit.
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Tzen posted:lol this owns. I haven't had that experience yet, looking forward to when I do though It’s so good, people just don’t know how to react. My favorite thing is walking by a packed patio at a bar and just judgin fools.
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Feb 20, 2021 05:36
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is covid defeated? when can i see my family
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Paradoxish posted:yeah but I still wonder how much it would matter I think part of the problem is that the media was so busy bouncing from outrage to outrage that something like the mass graves in NYC was just that day's hosed up story and the next day trynp tweeted something and the next day we did a warcrime or whatever etc
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Give Me Slut Juice I Crave Slut Juice
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gently caress COREY PERRY posted:birds rock
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The current realistic timeline is we're going to vaccinate every elderly person most at risk who wants the vaccine and every frontline healthcare worker who wants the vaccine within the next two months. We'll have a stockpile of enough doses to start giving a first shot to anyone who wants it by July. It will take a couple months after that of logistical bottlenecks to get us to 70-85% and true OPENRUP land that this thread dreads. This is all per Fauci in a recent podcast. https://twitter.com/COVID19Tracking/status/1362916491352371201?s=20 The curve is crashing after the dumb holiday peak, every formerly infected person is a dead end for reinfection essentially, and we've got a lower powered but still effective third vaccine about to be made readily available. MadJackal has issued a correction as of 06:02 on Feb 20, 2021 |
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Feb 20, 2021 05:59
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Thoguh posted:Still dunno why they are so worried about how many people want the jab when there is a year long backlog of people who want the jab but can't get one yet because there aren't enough to go around. If they pretend to be worried about that they get to jump to the front of the line and brag about it in the name of encouraging dipshits to get it
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euphronius posted:no they are “free “ That's surprising but good.
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MadJackal posted:every formerly infected person is a dead end for reinfection essentially Manaus
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SchnorkIes posted:Manaus Do you really think that by this fall if we've vaccinated 70-85% of the population for COVID classic, we couldn't transition to a booster shot for the worst case scenario strain? The mRNA vaccine is basically plug and play. Stop jerking off to worst case depression scenarios that things can never, ever get better because that doesn't jive with your current mindset.
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MadJackal posted:. It will take a couple months after that of logistical bottlenecks to get us to 70-85% and true OPENRUP land that this thread dreads. I'm hoping either the government starts heavily investing in hard propaganda and/or opinion shifts as getting the vaccine is normalized, because every poll I've seen says we'll be loving lucky to get to those numbers. military hasn't even been able to hit that. last poll I saw, literally 40% of Republicans said flat out they will avoid getting the vaccine if at all possible
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MadJackal posted:Do you really think that by this fall if we've vaccinated 70-85% of the population for COVID classic, we couldn't transition to a booster shot for the worst case scenario strain? The mRNA vaccine is basically plug and play. Uncontrolled variant spread between now and fall could pretty much be as bad as anything we've seen so far lol, and you don't think we'll have an even escapier nastier variant by the time we can fully distribute both the original vaccine and the variant booster?
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fosborb posted:I'm hoping either the government starts heavily investing in hard propaganda and/or opinion shifts as getting the vaccine is normalized, because every poll I've seen says we'll be loving lucky to get to those numbers. military hasn't even been able to hit that. Military has been able to get into the 65% range, but a lot of medical facilities have only made it into the 40% range with the staff lol
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I'm serious though. we clearly aren't locking down to end this (though we should and even now it would save so many lives). rapid, mass vaccination is the only hope. anyone refusing the vaccine that isn't like allergic to eggshells should be seen as an act of dangerous deviancy by their communities and appropriately red lettered until they get their shot
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Feb 20, 2021 06:21
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SchnorkIes posted:Uncontrolled variant spread between now and fall could pretty much be as bad as anything we've seen so far lol, and you don't think we'll have an even escapier nastier variant by the time we can fully distribute both the original vaccine and the variant booster? See, the funny thing is I'd be willing to check in every first of the month from here till Thanksgiving comparing body counts compared to the peak until one of us taps out, but I'd be an rear end in a top hat for doing so.
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fosborb posted:I'm serious though. we clearly aren't locking down to end this (though we should and even now it would save so many lives). You can't achieve that level of vaccine enthusiasm among covid ward workers
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MadJackal posted:See, the funny thing is I'd be willing to check in every first of the month from here till Thanksgiving comparing body counts compared to the peak until one of us taps out, but I'd be an rear end in a top hat for doing so. We're gonna get hammered by UK variant from all the opener up, that'll burn out or get vaccinated away, and then the escape variants come in, rinse and repeat. This can't be controlled without a lockdown period
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gently caress COREY PERRY posted:Give Me Slut Juice I Crave Slut Juice 
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SchnorkIes posted:You can't achieve that level of vaccine enthusiasm among covid ward workers because people are idiots and they were given a choice in the matter. that's not how you quickly end a pandemic
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fosborb posted:I'm hoping either the government starts heavily investing in hard propaganda and/or opinion shifts as getting the vaccine is normalized, because every poll I've seen says we'll be loving lucky to get to those numbers. military hasn't even been able to hit that. Irrational beliefs respond well to irrational data. I don't push people towards the vaccine's numbers alone, I push the emotional story of how I woke up like a kid on Christmas Day when I got my first dose. I've got my clothes laid out already for my second dose tomorrow because that picture is going on my dating profile. Most people don't respond well to numbers, they respond to the things they've personally witnessed around them. So if they witness many of their vaccined friends feeling safe to return to public and their anti-vaccine friends getting sick and heading to Zoom funerals, they're more likely to take the vaccine.
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Jesus Christ, how are they levitating!?
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Happy Thread posted:Jesus Christ, how are they levitating!? We may never know.
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MadJackal posted:Irrational beliefs respond well to irrational data. ha, i told people i felt like a kid on christmas morning when i got my vaccine.
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I don't really feel much about the first dose, it's going to be a tense 4 weeks trying to avoid infection and make sure I have a line on a backup second dose in case something happens (this state has been just cancelling a lot of second doses silently) And hoping they don't go to a one dose protocol
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I felt nothing after one dose of moderne also
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MadJackal posted:Most people don't respond well to numbers, they respond to the things they've personally witnessed around them. So if they witness many of their vaccined friends feeling safe to return to public and their anti-vaccine friends getting sick and heading to Zoom funerals, they're more likely to take the vaccine. hopefully! still not sure why 62% of nursing home staff refused the vaccine on the first go around. I hope they eventually realize the risk they put everyone in, despite likely altering their behavior very little and unlikely having any severe disease in their peer groups even with positives but just like with parents at the pediatrician, you're right that PCPs have a roll to play here too
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SchnorkIes posted:This can't be controlled without a lockdown period You do know I live in a city that went through a pretty long lockdown period that didn't solve this thing, right? I agree with the original concept that a national lockdown with strict enforcement and heavy contact tracing would have saved half a million American lives. And I agree outdoor dining within breathing distance of sidewalks is nuts. We're past that point. Give up on the idea of perfect, worldwide, isolate-every-person-in-every-nation-from-air-travel idealism. This is triage. We are protecting those most at risk, we are protecting their caretakers. The body count continued to crash because the nation got over the irrational exuberance of gathering for the holidays and murdering grandma.
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MadJackal posted:You do know I live in a city that went through a pretty long lockdown period that didn't solve this thing, right? You never had a lockdown there lol, just ask the aussies There's no triage with this, there's "lockdown to elimination" or "lose hundreds of thousands to endemic full escape covid every year forever as boosters lag a step behind"
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