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The Bungie Halos also managed an effective balance between the immediate story and the broader lore. There was enough to hint and draw interest in that broader world but it never distracted from the immediate goals of Chief and the Arbiter. The 343 Halos specifically hosed that up by trying to put the books and related poo poo into the main story because they were explicitly operating on the idea that Halo was a new generation's Star Wars, even though it was already fading by time they took over. Halo 4 expected you to either already know who the precursors were or to go buy the books to find out. Then when Halo 4 didn't really take off, they do another soft reboot with their OC, which also didn't work. Now Infinite is another soft reboot but the story is built on the two Halo Wars games, which had their own soft reboot between 1 and 2 and nobody really played in the first place.
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the opening riffs of "You're Not Here" still get my pulse up just from being part of the opening sequence there's also something vaguely off about the song in a way that's different from SH's usual music, it's poppy rock on the surface but with the occasional yamaoka-esque yowling discordance mixed in
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Rise of the Tomb Raider: It was nice of Lara's dead mom to write puzzle-relevant information in ALL CAPS.
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oldpainless posted:Playing Silent Hill 3 for the first time and this weird rear end soundtrack and sound effects are most assuredly going to give me a heart attack That soundtrack is the music of young adulthood, existentialism and depression. It's great!
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Feb 20, 2021 08:25
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Oxxidation posted:the opening riffs of "You're Not Here" still get my pulse up just from being part of the opening sequence Silent Hill 3 is a game about a teenager, it makes sense that the soundtrack reflects that too.
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marshmallow creep posted:Missed opportunity to literally do just that and have a completely unbroken one as a boss fight. Make it multi phase and when you beat him he turns into one of the regular ones. I've never played Monster Hunter but this just sounds like you're talking about Monster Hunter.
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Feb 20, 2021 09:17
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Len posted:Oof, uh I did not actually watch that entire clip. I originally learned about it from a show on either G4 or TechTV or G4TechTV I wonder if you can dual wield by combining both methods.
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A deep cut but I’ve been playing the first Pajama Sam game with my 3yo and it’s really neat that they randomize their puzzle solutions. There’s only like three puzzles to solve but since we beat it and my kid wanted to immediately play it again, it was nice that it wasn’t the exact same experience.
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Feb 20, 2021 18:08
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Humongous Entertainment knew their audience for sure. I replayed those games a bunch as a kid, and it was really was nice that it wasn't always the same.
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Feb 20, 2021 19:17
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Doom Eternal: Is there some story DLC that I missed? I played Doom 2016 a bunch and I have no idea what the gently caress a Khan Makyr or a Sentinel is. Reminds me of Halo 4 where they made a big deal out of some character in the halo novels but no one one who hadn't read them knew who the Didact was. Also these first person jumping and dashing puzzles are bullshit.
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Feb 20, 2021 22:12
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Doom Eternal is the anime after the timeskip chapter. That's honestly the best way to describe the story it plops you headfirst into.
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Feb 20, 2021 22:34
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Not only can you wear the spider-punk costume in the ps4 game, J Jonah Jameson will comment on it. He was around when punk was born and he didn't like it then neither
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Feb 20, 2021 22:38
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Is there some story DLC that I missed? I played Doom 2016 a bunch and I have no idea what the gently caress a Khan Makyr or a Sentinel is. Reminds me of Halo 4 where they made a big deal out of some character in the halo novels but no one one who hadn't read them knew who the Didact was. No, it starts in media res and expects you to figure it out yourself or read the in-game codex. I did not figure it out because holy poo poo I do not care, they took the wrongest lesson possible from people reacting positively to Doom 2016's plot, like 'we have lore you can read if you wanna deep dive in to this ridiculous world, we have doomguy smashing everything that threatens to tell him about the lore of the world or motives of characters doing evil stuff. For the sequel we'll make those things less at odds and make doomguy care deeply about lore stuff and watch ghosts and poo poo talk about it.'
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Which is so weird, because DOOM 2016 entirely made fun of that type of game.
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I liked giving Doomguy some personal involvement in the story in Eternal because it kind of funnels the game's universe back into one path after explicitly saying "every alternate universe doom adventure is practically canon" and opening the floodgates of creativity in the last game. The more in your face story of Doom Eternal is perhaps meant to reel it back in and say "from here on, this is the one true doom story and here's all the proper nouns and acronyms you need to know going forward". edit: It's also really funny to watch Doomguy stomp around like he's in a wrestling promo and turn his back on the villain while they monologue at him and stuff. By now they've got to be at least partially aware of how stupid and funny it is for him to just stare everything down in complete silence. CJacobs has a new favorite as of 23:27 on Feb 20, 2021 |
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My take on Eternal is, if you’re making a Doom game and you find yourself creating a level where you walk down a long hall not killing anything but repeatedly triggering cutscenes for what feels like 10 minutes, you need to take a step back and re-evaluate everything that led you to this point
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Feb 21, 2021 01:18
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playing through DOOM 2016 and even in that one some of the cutscenes feel too long. like, okay, game... i get that olivia pearce is bad. tell sam hayden to hurry uo and open the airlock so i can stop her.
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Feb 21, 2021 01:24
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I was lukewarm on Doom Eternal overall but I love Doomguy’s attitude. He is an unstoppable force of nature, forever marching forward and killing everything in his path. When the Big Bad mouths off about fate or how Doomguy’s fight is useless, you get a real sense that DG is just silently putting them on a long list of “things to kill” without really listening or caring. I also liked that there are no scenes where DG is made powerless for plot reasons. No sucker punches, no imprisonment or binding, no sucking his power away so the enemy can monologue. DG is canonically powerful enough to kill anything and if he hasn’t killed it it’s because the thing is a hologram or DG needs it to kill other things.
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Feb 21, 2021 01:33
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CJacobs posted:I liked giving Doomguy some personal involvement in the story in Eternal because it kind of funnels the game's universe back into one path after explicitly saying "every alternate universe doom adventure is practically canon" and opening the floodgates of creativity in the last game. The more in your face story of Doom Eternal is perhaps meant to reel it back in and say "from here on, this is the one true doom story and here's all the proper nouns and acronyms you need to know going forward". It's such an easy simple set up to have someone monologuing at him while a demon pops up in the background and Doomguy's head- and the camera- snaps to focus on that with aimbot accuracy. Thankfully though, despite both Doom and Halo having stories I don't care at all about, neither of them have gone down the breeding camps direction that Gears of War did
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RareAcumen posted:the breeding camps direction that Gears of War did what the gently caress  i only played the first two... i don't actually want to know. but what the gently caress
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LawfulWaffle posted:I was lukewarm on Doom Eternal overall but I love Doomguy’s attitude. He is an unstoppable force of nature, forever marching forward and killing everything in his path. When the Big Bad mouths off about fate or how Doomguy’s fight is useless, you get a real sense that DG is just silently putting them on a long list of “things to kill” without really listening or caring. On the other hand, at one point some ghost king shows up and says that actually it's bad to kill demons, and doomguy...kneels before him as though this is a viewpoint he could respect? I had no idea what was going on but at that point I resolved to pay no attention to the story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjWKhlQzPnE
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Sally posted:what the gently caress This is something from the novels where women are required to make as many babies as possible to replenish CoG numbers. It gets referenced in some of the later games, I think, but never something the games make you a part of, to my knowledge. edit: it may be worth mentioning the novels in question were written by a woman named Karen Traviss. marshmallow creep has a new favorite as of 02:35 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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RareAcumen posted:It's such an easy simple set up to have someone monologuing at him while a demon pops up in the background and Doomguy's head- and the camera- snaps to focus on that with aimbot accuracy. But people online, even on left-leaning sites like SA, still get incredibly mad if you dare say that you think you should be able to play as a woman in those games and that you can't immerse yourself or click like you're supposed to if you're required to play a dude. 
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marshmallow creep posted:This is something from the novels where women are required to make as many babies as possible to replenish CoG numbers. It gets referenced in some of the later games, I think, but never something the games make you a part of, to my knowledge. It gets mentioned offhand in the games but you wouldn't actually realize the implication without it.
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Even then the games are terrible about their female characters, like Dom's wife, who only exists to get tortured so badly that by the time Dom rescues her all he can do anymore is mercy kill her, and use that to spur him on the rest of his story. It's a pretty gross variant of fridging.
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Cythereal posted:But people online, even on left-leaning sites like SA, still get incredibly mad if you dare say that you think you should be able to play as a woman in those games and that you can't immerse yourself or click like you're supposed to if you're required to play a dude. The reason there isn't a female doom slayer is because they know their writers wouldn't be able to hold off the "yas slay queen" lines.
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Cythereal posted:But people online, even on left-leaning sites like SA, still get incredibly mad if you dare say that you think you should be able to play as a woman in those games and that you can't immerse yourself or click like you're supposed to if you're required to play a dude. It's weird and I don't get why everyone keeps getting so invested as to make it an argument every time the topic comes up. Push El Burrito posted:The reason there isn't a female doom slayer is because they know their writers wouldn't be able to hold off the "yas slay queen" lines. While I'm sure they wouldn't go and make Doom Slayer into some kind of lovely 'Come and Play, My Lord' mobile game characters with 4-inch heels, I can't stop thinking that the game would turn into all the demons sweating over her coming to kill them like what's going on with the giant vampire woman from the currently unreleased Resident Evil game. 
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Feb 21, 2021 10:30
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Doom Eternal's story was much weaker than Doom 2016 but all the dumb lore didn't come out of nowhere, it was more or less a direct sequel to Doom 64.
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You know as I'm playing through Doom 2016 right now and while it is a really good game, I think the superlative praise it got was more about bethesda not loving up as everyone expected them to. I bought Doom Eternal on release (still haven't played 2016 then) and the dumb exposition and forced tutorials made my eyes turn back inside my skull. I'm already annoyed at the game locking you in place to TELL YOU THE PLOT in Doom2016 despite the promising intro. Oh man if they just stuck to that 100%. Have the villain do their smug poo poo, camera pans and HOLY poo poo DOOMGUY IS BREAKING THE BULLETPROOF GLASS WITH HIS HEAD
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Feb 21, 2021 11:27
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exquisite tea posted:Doom Eternal's story was much weaker than Doom 2016 but all the dumb lore didn't come out of nowhere, it was more or less a direct sequel to Doom 64. I respect the angle of deciding to make the game a sequel to Doom 64 of all things... but it's a VERY weird angle. That would be like making the new Elder Scrolls a sequel to Battlespire.
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Feb 21, 2021 11:38
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marshmallow creep posted:This is something from the novels where women are required to make as many babies as possible to replenish CoG numbers. It gets referenced in some of the later games, I think, but never something the games make you a part of, to my knowledge. what the gently caress
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Push El Burrito posted:The reason there isn't a female doom slayer is because they know their writers wouldn't be able to hold off the "yas slay queen" lines. The reason there isn't a female doom slayer is because of Gamers.
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Cleretic posted:I respect the angle of deciding to make the game a sequel to Doom 64 of all things... but it's a VERY weird angle. That would be like making the new Elder Scrolls a sequel to Battlespire. Makes sense mind since Doom 64 is the one that actually followed up on the story and gave some sort of closure.
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The Gears of War Omegaverse
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Quoting myself but this is terrible. Clicking through to Molly gives us the story of a traumatized rape survivor: dumb loving gears poo poo posted:
So again - what the gently caress
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Y'know what film I just love when video games go out of their way to remind me of? Bone Tomahawk.
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Ruffian Price posted:The Gears of War Omegaverse The "I'm JD, elite COG soldier... And a secret omega?!?" webtoon ran for 150 chapters and was very popular in korea. Yeah it's super garbage. Probably a society technologically advanced enough that they could just have cloning programs, or whatever. (Were the locust not created because of one? I can't remember.) But no, some writers insisted they had to have rapefarms.
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SubNat posted:The "I'm JD, elite COG soldier... And a secret omega?!?" webtoon ran for 150 chapters and was very popular in korea. Karen Traviss is notorious for some reaaal lovely licensed fiction that she somehow keeps getting hired to write.
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quote:Women in the Birthing Creche were given extra rations over a non-serving male,[3] and doctors gave young girls hormones at age ten so they could begin menstruation.[4] The women would be impregnated by artificial insemination or sexual intercourse. Ideally, the goal was to have the women become pregnant with genetically strong offspring, and the women in the farms were often partnered with Gears. Who the gently caress at Epic Games signed off on this?! 
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