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Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Willa Rogers posted:

also lol that it took me weeks to find this thread bc I refused to mentally process the dems being good.

lol

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

succ zone is healing.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Reality Protester posted:

it was incredible how big a story kids in cages was for two weeks until trump pointed out obama built them and everyone moved on
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1362835098664583171

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

comedyblissoption posted:

he didnt start a new hot war, proxy war, or genocide breaking a massive presidential streak extending all the way back to probably before the days of fdr

Trump escalated sanctions against ever country the US disliked, killing thousands. The assassination of Qasem Soleimani was an act of war against Iran, and it's only because of Iranian leadership that a war was avoided. Bombing war expanded, across Africa in particular, as well.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Atrocious Joe posted:

Trump escalated sanctions against ever country the US disliked, killing thousands. The assassination of Qasem Soleimani was an act of war against Iran, and it's only because of Iranian leadership that a war was avoided. Bombing war expanded, across Africa in particular, as well.
this is all true and does not dispute my statement

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

also it's possible trump drew a hard line on directly attacking iranian soil which is extremely hard for me to fathom any other president doing given the events during that time

also trump de-escalated american involvement in syria even if it involved still occupying and stealing their oil and giving erdogan carte blanche to start murdering kurds

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!
and the dems, for some mysterious reason, do not seem to give a poo poo about trump abandoning the kurds

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

important context is that bill clinton gave more arms to turkey than in the entire previous cold war period combined so they could genocide-murder ~50,000+ kurds and level a bunch of villages in turkey

among the many other times that the kurds have been directly attacked or abandoned by american foreign policy

the handwringing about kurds in the liberal media was purely a concern troll to try to justify increased american escalation in syria

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

comedyblissoption posted:

important context is that bill clinton gave more arms to turkey than in the entire previous cold war period combined so they could genocide-murder ~50,000+ kurds and level a bunch of villages in turkey

among the many other times that the kurds have been directly attacked or abandoned by american foreign policy

the handwringing about kurds in the liberal media was purely a concern troll to try to justify increased american escalation in syria

obama didn't get his war in syria and that made him sad. obama stopped being david cameron's friend because of syria.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

comedyblissoption posted:

he didnt start a new hot war, proxy war, or genocide breaking a massive presidential streak extending all the way back to probably before the days of fdr

I'm gonna claim trump is the only president ever this is true for, just like Warren is the only primary candidate to ever get below the top 2 in their home state; maybe someone will prove me wrong but probably not

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Tricky D posted:

and the dems, for some mysterious reason, do not seem to give a poo poo about trump abandoning the kurds

Abandoning Kurds is one of the few norms Trump conformed with

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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People took this crank seriously and told their lefty podcast followers that she was someone worth listening to.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

of course trump is a horrible monster. he continued the genocide started by his predecessor

but nevertheless, he did not start a new genocide unlike obama, clinton, and carter. a take scientifically formulated to drive the libs mad.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



mastershakeman posted:

I'm gonna claim trump is the only president ever this is true for, just like Warren is the only primary candidate to ever get below the top 2 in their home state; maybe someone will prove me wrong but probably not

William Henry Harrison didn't start any wars, I guess, though he technically had them already ongoing against the Native Americans during his stint in office.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

mcmagic posted:

People took this crank seriously and told their lefty podcast followers that she was someone worth listening to.

you take biden seriously & tell everyone that he's worth listening to & voting for, so you actually succ more than they do.

sleep with the vicious
Apr 2, 2010

Lol America is an evil country...kids in cages!! was like one of d&D's main reasons for Biden support and now they won't even acknowledge the camps

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

comedyblissoption posted:

of course trump is a horrible monster. he continued the genocide started by his predecessor

but nevertheless, he did not start a new genocide unlike obama, clinton, and carter. a take scientifically formulated to drive the libs mad.

b-b-but he banned trans people from participating in those genocides!

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Willa Rogers posted:

you take biden seriously & tell everyone that he's worth listening to & voting for, so you actually succ more than they do.

It's pretty idiotic to criticize someone for taking the President seriously or listening to him lol. He's the President not some crazy crystal lady on a podcast... A real leftist like you puts their fingers in their ears when the President talks. I also never told anyone to vote for him. But you are MAD!!!!!!!!!!!

mcmagic has issued a correction as of 01:18 on Feb 22, 2021

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

https://twitter.com/SusanSarandon/status/1363617740133703680

tweet links to this website: https://unitedwedream.org/protect-immigrants-now/biden-stop-deportations-now/ although I'm not sure where they get the numbers from

This article says ICE has made 21 "removal flights" to 6 countries in the past week: https://prospect.org/justice/deportation-as-usual-biden-struggles-to-reshape-immigration-policy/

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Thump! posted:

William Henry Harrison didn't start any wars, I guess, though he technically had them already ongoing against the Native Americans during his stint in office.

I'm gonna guess he hosed with some natives that weren't being killed prior to him?

Oh right he only had a month in office. How about trump's the only guy with one full term not to start a hot war against foreign or domestic enemies (including natives, the south, etc)

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

The Pussy Boss posted:

https://twitter.com/SusanSarandon/status/1363617740133703680

tweet links to this website: https://unitedwedream.org/protect-immigrants-now/biden-stop-deportations-now/ although I'm not sure where they get the numbers from

This article says ICE has made 21 "removal flights" to 6 countries in the past week: https://prospect.org/justice/deportation-as-usual-biden-struggles-to-reshape-immigration-policy/

https://twitter.com/Celeste12101691/status/1363624051202265088

quote:

Lover of Black literature, Black culture and Black Lives! The tree is alive/growing on a former slave plantation. VOTE every election.

ADOS twitter is a loving trip

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Thump! posted:

William Henry Harrison didn't start any wars, I guess, though he technically had them already ongoing against the Native Americans during his stint in office.

i've said again and again, if you examine actions taken while in office alone, harrison is the best president ever

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

mastershakeman posted:

I'm gonna guess he hosed with some natives that weren't being killed prior to him?

Oh right he only had a month in office. How about trump's the only guy with one full term not to start a hot war against foreign or domestic enemies (including natives, the south, etc)

i mean his entire election campaign was "hey remember when i killed a poo poo load of natives during the war of 1812??"

Adjectivist Philosophy
Oct 6, 2003

When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

Mnoba posted:

the day trump pushed back slightly against syria/russia bombing that airfield, and how both sides of the isle and the corporate media did a complete 180 and starting praising him should have terrified everyone

Jokes on you, my entire existence is oscillating between terror and complete despondency

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Trump did try to start a war with Iran and luckily the Iranian government didn't really respond in any real way that would have escalated it.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

if hillary was in that seat she wouldve directly bombed iran lol

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Trump reversing course on North Korea because of gaslighting by both the South and the North and owning the blob in the process was worth it.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!
it's kind of silly to think that iran would have had to escalated to justify war if that's what trump was looking for

boomers have wanted all out war with iran since the hostage crisis

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Raskolnikov38 posted:

i mean his entire election campaign was "hey remember when i killed a poo poo load of natives during the war of 1812??"
not an exaggeration either

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jimmy carter doesnt get the credit he deserves for starting an all out war with iran in response to the hostage crisis

Seyser Koze
Dec 15, 2013

Mucho Mucho
Nap Ghost
Why are you dooming a month into Biden's so-far stellar term?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

comedyblissoption posted:

jimmy carter doesnt get the credit he deserves for starting an all out war with iran in response to the hostage crisis

“God as my witness, there’s gonna be a peanut cloud over Tehran in my lifetime!”

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Tricky D posted:

and the dems, for some mysterious reason, do not seem to give a poo poo about trump abandoning the kurds

too hard to explain to voters, americans don't give a poo poo (democrats don't either)

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

The kids in cages thing is what made Peter Daou finally crack ping completely.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

Flavius Aetass posted:

too hard to explain to voters, americans don't give a poo poo (democrats don't either)

the reason isn't actually mysterious it's cus they socialists

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

tactlessbastard posted:

Did they also lay out what all they planned to get done before the Republicans ruin their majority

In roughly three thousand fundraising emails they have not mentioned this no

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Tricky D posted:

the reason isn't actually mysterious it's cus they socialists

I doubt many people except socialists and people who have been there even know that

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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The Oldest Man posted:

In roughly three thousand fundraising emails they have not mentioned this no

They hope (probably wrongly) that the COVID relief package will be enough if the vaccine gets out there to everyone and the economy gets better. That is clearly the plan since they can't do anything else without killing the filibuster.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

Flavius Aetass posted:

I doubt many people except socialists and people who have been there even know that

i guess we'll have to wait until hillary and chelsea's girlboss pkk documentary to see

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Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Tricky D posted:

i guess we'll have to wait until hillary and chelsea's girlboss pkk documentary to see

yeah I just assumed they wouldn't mention it, or if they do it'd be countered by a plucky Kurdish girlboss who dreams of being a capitalist

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