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Ah, my best friend in the Army was an employee there. Then he became a guest.
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Delorence Fickle posted:I gotta find something that wont leave my mind a burning husk at the end of the day. I'm dying to find a KISS job now. Rakeris posted:Well lucky for you we have ~150 locations, https://www.bop.gov/locations/ some are waaaay worse than others so pick your number out of a hat carefully. If they have a 10-25% salary incentive for taking a job at that location, there is a very good reason for that...  Well I DO have a criminal justice degree hiding in my endless shower of degrees
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Dr. Quarex posted:I hear you; I do not regret many things, but quitting my sweet federal job for its lack of Telework in late 2019 is fairly regrettable Would you say it’s a golden shower?
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But do they have 0346/0343 logistics management or Contracting jobs? In the GS 11/12/13 range?
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White Chocolate posted:But do they have 0346/0343 logistics management or Contracting jobs? In the GS 11/12/13 range? Not sure on the 0346/0343s specifically, but there is at least one contract management dude/dudet at every prison and a few in the ROs and a whole lot at GP and DC. Not sure on all the ladders but the peeps I work with are 11/12/13s. I've never really got into that side of things, but from talking to them it seems to be a lot of getting/approving bids and jobs that go into 7+ digits, and sometimes going to where the thing is and making sure that things™ are happening?
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Feb 9, 2021 03:08
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Not sure if this would be good or not but it's different, I guess: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/perspectives/public-service-private-sector-minnesota/index.html
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Feb 11, 2021 02:17
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Midjack posted:Not sure if this would be good or not but it's different, I guess: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/perspectives/public-service-private-sector-minnesota/index.html Good for him but he we don't necessarily need everyone to go into government.
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Feb 11, 2021 02:43
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Sure we do. 100% employment! Keep your downtown clean for minimum wage. Perfect
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Feb 11, 2021 03:57
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Dr. Quarex posted:Sure we do. 100% employment! Keep your downtown clean for minimum wage. Perfect We could always use more people sweeping the forests.
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Feb 11, 2021 04:03
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Public works campaigns to build/rebuild infrastructure that is bad or non-existent would be awesome; you get infrastructure that makes the society work better for everyone long term, and in the short term you get jobs for people who lost them so they have income to keep the economy going through a rough patch. What's not to like about that?
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Public works campaigns to build/rebuild infrastructure that is bad or non-existent would be awesome; you get infrastructure that makes the society work better for everyone long term, and in the short term you get jobs for people who lost them so they have income to keep the economy going through a rough patch. What's not to like about that? Well you see the last time we did that it was part of the New Deal and that makes it simply unacceptable to half the country since that one lady in Congress has a Green New Deal and that’s some loving socialism I tell you what hgalghalghalgh 
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I was thinking the other night how a CCC would be great right now but politically/economically I’m not sure if it could really get off the ground. Private companies do most/all civil construction these days and would fight tooth and nail, plus where would the gov’t get their people and expertise? I imagine the idea would be to have them be gov’t employees, contracting everything out kinda misses the point but maybe that’s just the spirit of the thing.
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Midjack posted:Well you see the last time we did that it was part of the New Deal and that makes it simply unacceptable to half the country since that one lady in Congress has a Green New Deal and that’s some loving socialism I tell you what hgalghalghalgh The way that anything that does not exclusively or primarily help old white people gets rebranded as "sochulisms!!1!" is a disease and will destroy this country someday if it's left untreated. Already feels like it's broken the place pretty hard. REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS posted:I was thinking the other night how a CCC would be great right now but politically/economically I’m not sure if it could really get off the ground. Private companies do most/all civil construction these days and would fight tooth and nail, plus where would the gov’t get their people and expertise? I imagine the idea would be to have them be gov’t employees, contracting everything out kinda misses the point but maybe that’s just the spirit of the thing. It'd be better to have people be hired by the government directly, but this doesn't feel nearly as intractable as the above problem. Doing this right is a 50 state project, and while I'm sure there's a boatload of companies ready to develop for, say, New York, the profit motive isn't there for a lot of smaller places with fewer people which would open up the opportunity for more fed-direct hiring.
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We can New Deal this and New Deal that but there was another recession in '37 and employment didn't fully recover until the war...
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So we need us a good war is what you’re saying?! 
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Seamonster posted:We can New Deal this and New Deal that but there was another recession in '37 and employment didn't fully recover until the war... 8 years after the largest economic crash in history seems like a normal business cycle.
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Thanks for help everyone. Had my first day today, seems like I do really have a job now. I had a question on FERS military buy back. There's no benefit if you don't retire/receive a FERS annuity? So I want to start the (very long seeming) process as soon as I am confident I want to retire through FERS?
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Fritzler posted:Thanks for help everyone. Had my first day today, seems like I do really have a job now. I had a question on FERS military buy back. There's no benefit if you don't retire/receive a FERS annuity? So I want to start the (very long seeming) process as soon as I am confident I want to retire through FERS? You only need 5 years of civilian service to earn a FERS pension. Whatever you buy back will be added onto this. Good thing is the buyback rate of 3% is lower than the current pension rate. You have two years to buyback before they start adding interest. I would just start the process now and do a small amount per pay period towards it, worst case you can always request a refund of your fers contributions and buyback.
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Feb 17, 2021 04:17
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Start it now. "Next pay period" turns into 10 plus years mighty fast.
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Feb 17, 2021 05:38
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Fritzler posted:Thanks for help everyone. Had my first day today, seems like I do really have a job now. I had a question on FERS military buy back. There's no benefit if you don't retire/receive a FERS annuity? So I want to start the (very long seeming) process as soon as I am confident I want to retire through FERS? Also you can pay with a credit card and earn those sweet points. Time to sign up for a promotion on a card with a spend requirement.
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Evil SpongeBob posted:Start it now. "Next pay period" turns into 10 plus years mighty fast. Hi it's me, the guy that's been a fed employee for 5 years and keeps saying I'll start payments next week.
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I started paying as soon as I got the payoff amount because there was some guy in my office who never did. He gave up 8 or 9 years because the interest was too high. I ran the numbers and I'd get my payoff amount back in the increased percentage in six months of pension payment.
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Evil SpongeBob posted:I started paying as soon as I got the payoff amount because there was some guy in my office who never did. He gave up 8 or 9 years because the interest was too high. Terror Ninja posted:You only need 5 years of civilian service to earn a FERS pension. Whatever you buy back will be added onto this. Good thing is the buyback rate of 3% is lower than the current pension rate. You have two years to buyback before they start adding interest. I would just start the process now and do a small amount per pay period towards it, worst case you can always request a refund of your fers contributions and buyback.
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Fritzler posted:Well I easily ran numbers on how much money it is if I retire, and it is 100% worth it. For most people I'd imagine it's worth it. If I actually bought my ten back I could leave in 5 with 20% and actually make money in the private sector.
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Only downside is that your deferred pension isn't inflation adjusted. Meaning whatever it's set at based on high-3, it will be that when you start withdrawing at 62. Say it's $10,000. In 20 years that is only worth $5,536.76 in today's dollar value. (assuming 3% inflation rate). Depending on how many years you have until deferred retirement, I would compare the expected pension against investing the buyback amount.
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That is why I just want to get back into the game already, because five years of investing in my my TSP caught up with like ten years of investing in my Roth IRA, so clearly they know what they are doing far more than I do. On that note, USCIS hiring freeze extended to at least March 31. Hurry up bro
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Posting again to see if the thread will tell me "just go for it!" even here Long story short, I interviewed for an intelligence research specialist position about a month ago, whose requirements seemed within the usual "yeah, I can claim that" tier. Then today I get an e-mail seemingly both confirming I advanced to the next level and also saying I have to also have these new requirements in order to request the next round of interviews: The Air Force Lol posted:Required knowledge, skills, and abilities: What is going on here? Besides "USAJobs!" Did they just realize they posted the wrong requirements and decide nobody would mind if they changed them? Considering the reasons jobs have had to be reposted in the past, I am very confused that this is apparently just a thing they can do Dr. Quarex fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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Make them tell you no, it’s not like you’re blacklisted from federal employment for a bad interview. I will note that if you had any qualms about the ICE mission you may end up with misgivings about what JSOC does but you’re going to have to figure that out on your own.
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Howard Phillips posted:Only downside is that your deferred pension isn't inflation adjusted. Meaning whatever it's set at based on high-3, it will be that when you start withdrawing at 62. Say it's $10,000. In 20 years that is only worth $5,536.76 in today's dollar value. (assuming 3% inflation rate). This is something I never thought about. Government until 62 then. Yay.
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Midjack posted:Make them tell you no, it’s not like you’re blacklisted from federal employment for a bad interview. I will note that if you had any qualms about the ICE mission you may end up with misgivings about what JSOC does but you’re going to have to figure that out on your own. At least the families that JSOC destroys are nominally accidents and not policy. I'd go full "that ties in to my experience doing this" for every question. No candidate is ever 100% qualified, or they wouldn't be a candidate, they'd have a job already. 
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GD_American posted:No candidate is ever 100% qualified, or they wouldn't be a candidate, they'd have a job already. that's very much not the case for federal hires. it may be that the hiring agency does not have direct hire authority for the position, so they have to list it on USAJobs, but there's some contractor who is currently doing the job and is a perfect fit for the position who they want to convert to the open civil servant slot. heck, the candidate could be an ex-civil servant or ex-military and still have to jump through those hoops. in fact, depending on the position, it could be a current fed who's doing the job in an acting role but the job still has to be listed on USAJobs.
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Yeah I disagree with that as well. In our agency we often have people who are doing the job already and just want to relocate. There have been a couple of hiring decisions where all the finalists have demonstrated experience doing the exact job that was bid.
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Dr. Quarex posted:Posting again to see if the thread will tell me "just go for it!" even here These are very specific requirements that only someone previously in uniform deep within Air Force operational and administrative bureaucracy would know. They probably realized that they didn't make the requirements specific enough.
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Midjack posted:Make them tell you no, it’s not like you’re blacklisted from federal employment for a bad interview. I will note that if you had any qualms about the ICE mission you may end up with misgivings about what JSOC does but you’re going to have to figure that out on your own. Howard Phillips posted:These are very specific requirements that only someone previously in uniform deep within Air Force operational and administrative bureaucracy would know. They probably realized that they didn't make the requirements specific enough. Thinking back on the interview some more over the last day, the interviewers mentioned that they were doing a national search and had no information to give me about the office as they did not know which office the job might be out of; this might have actually also meant "we have no idea what the job details will actually be either" and somewhat explain this absurd change of pace. Now I feel like I should definitely respond if only to make sure it does not somehow trigger a "candidate no longer interested in this posting" switch flip disqualifying me from other possible outcomes from this posting? Probably overthinking, but it is not like I have anything else to do I do like that USAJobs has changed the pending application system though; now as far as I can tell the only possible status fields are "accepting applications," "reviewing applications," "canceled," and "hiring complete." Well and I guess there is probably a "hired" in there somewhere
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Dr. Quarex posted:I do like that USAJobs has changed the pending application system though; now as far as I can tell the only possible status fields are "accepting applications," "reviewing applications," "canceled," and "hiring complete." Well and I guess there is probably a "hired" in there somewhere This is for the job I started a month ago. I still haven't been "hired."
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Betazoid posted:This is for the job I started a month ago. I still haven't been "hired." They probably close it out on USAJobs when the whole cert is closed. Any idea if that was a multiple position thing or just a single spot?
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Alucard posted:They probably close it out on USAJobs when the whole cert is closed. Any idea if that was a multiple position thing or just a single spot? Definitely a single spot. Can't share more, but it was one role, and I'm it, so somebody just hasn't ticked the box that I'm it and people are out there thinking "November ain't too bad.". Yeah. It closed. God I hate govt hiring. So glad to be in after literally applying for 10 years. Edit to add: I exported my USAJobs history. Between March 2019 and October 2020, I applied to 92 federal jobs. I got one video screen, two round 1 interviews, two round 2 interviews, and one offer. It's bananas. Betazoid fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Dr. Quarex posted:I would brag about how many applications I put in before being hired, but I remember my total only being about half of someone else's here. So then don’t talk yourself out of whatever one you’re applying to now.
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