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Kin posted:Has it basically come down to this country needing a 'popular character' asking these questions instead? Maybe if Michael McIntyre or Ant and Dec were grilling politicians we'd see some societal uproar.
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TACD posted:If Jamie Oliver can get Boris to admit he doesn’t like chips we’ll have a new PM inside a week He seems more like a truffled mash and swan neck kinda guy
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TheRat posted:I feel the need to remind people that death isn't the only problem with covid. Plenty of non-vulnerable people get really nasty, long term problems Right, but as a society we already accept a lot of things that cause death and nasty long-term problems as either necessary for society to function or just plain fun. Mechanically limiting all road vehicles to 5mph would basically end road deaths (1,800 or so a year) as well as serious injuries (30k), and also reduce all sorts of other deaths by making walking/cycling/public transport more attractive. Obviously it's not a direct comparison, because that would have to be an ongoing thing rather than a one-time intervention, but it's an example of something that is definitely in our power to do but which we choose not to because it's too big a disruption to our way of life, and instead we chip away at the edges by increasing safety standards, lowering speed limits, and redesigning roads and pavements. See also smoking, drinking, fatty foods, dangerous sports, the list goes on of stuff that we know can cause problems but which we allow to continue with greater or lesser restrictions. If it comes to it, we could probably basically end flu deaths (up to 15k in a bad year) by forcing vaccination on the entire population, and a working *and enforced* track-and-trace system - something that isn't actually a change to our way of life at all and in fact something that would be a boon to the economy by reducing sick time, but which we choose not to do because it goes against the grain of how we see society working. Sad to say I suspect that covid will become something just baked into the system around the world over the next few years.
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's like that Times article I posted where the journalist raises the issue that it's kinda the point of the Opposition to want to throw the government out and replace them and Starmer always gives the impression that he doesn't particularly want to do that. I've talked before about his bureaucratic instincts - he treats the Tory government not as an enemy to be defeated but as a rather irritating department that his own department nonetheless has to work with as best as possible, for the greater good of the company. For all that we dislike Blair, if this crisis had happened in 1996, he'd have built a popular narrative of Tory incompetence, cronyism and failure and lashed the government mercilessly with it and he'd have been right to do so. Holy poo poo this is perfect. Sensibly adjusting all the different levers until you unlock fully data-driven end-of-history space centrism, ignoring the fact that most of the levers are guarded by a hooting mop-headed gargoyle who flings skulls at you and fucks your wife if you come anywhere near
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Failed Imagineer posted:He seems more like a truffled mash But enough about his haircut E: I can't think about the word 'haircut' any more without immediately thinking of Keir Starmer. Thanks thread
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Sad to say I suspect that covid will become something just baked into the system around the world over the next few years.
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Guavanaut posted:I hope we keep face masks on mass transit for a while That's gonna gently caress with the facial recognition CCTV so I give it 18 months on the outside before they ban face coverings outright.
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I also hope we reject all the rhetoric behind that poo poo. It must become a bit harder for the government to say "but a terrorist attack might kill 50 people!" while they're shoveling the corpses of 50,000 unnecessary dead onto the pyre, as much as the press will try to make it work.
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Necrothatcher posted:same. I miss going out it something about the enthusiasm for this date just fills me with dread. I can’t put my finger on why, i don’t think it’s going to be pushed back even it’s just...generalised dread.
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It is people being encouraged to forget about it, to learn nothing, to stop caring, to accept the deaths and if anyone complains to tell them they have a right to go to the pub so shut up. Dread is the appropriate response.
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massive spider posted:I miss going out it something about the enthusiasm for this date just fills me with dread. I can’t put my finger on why, i don’t think it’s going to be pushed back even it’s just...generalised dread. I think you mean "generalised druid" https://twitter.com/bartlebooth45/status/1364166590477049856?s=19 gh0stpinballa posted:https://twitter.com/wearetruthers/status/1351227022312435713?s=19 Nah bro I'm sweet
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That guy always makes me think of Nicholas Lyndhurst.
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Totally normal behaviour from the person behind labour against antisemitism https://twitter.com/MichaelRosenYes/status/1364169221681405952?s=19 https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1364170608523804673?s=19
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's like that Times article I posted where the journalist raises the issue that it's kinda the point of the Opposition to want to throw the government out and replace them and Starmer always gives the impression that he doesn't particularly want to do that. I've talked before about his bureaucratic instincts - he treats the Tory government not as an enemy to be defeated but as a rather irritating department that his own department nonetheless has to work with as best as possible, for the greater good of the company. For all that we dislike Blair, if this crisis had happened in 1996, he'd have built a popular narrative of Tory incompetence, cronyism and failure and lashed the government mercilessly with it and he'd have been right to do so. That article was defending kiers decision not to oppose and also defending the media's decision not to attack the government. I also liked the bit where the journalist abrogated all responsibility for getting bojo elected
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massive spider posted:I miss going out it something about the enthusiasm for this date just fills me with dread. I can’t put my finger on why, i don’t think it’s going to be pushed back even it’s just...generalised dread. There's also not having had the vaccine yet and knowing full well that by mid April, everywhere is going to be full of boomers wandering round maskless and yelling about how its over now while open mouth kissing each other to own the libs. Pistol_Pete posted:It's like that Times article I posted where the journalist raises the issue that it's kinda the point of the Opposition to want to throw the government out and replace them and Starmer always gives the impression that he doesn't particularly want to do that. Even Corbyn's changes to the NEC to make it more democratic weren't about letting every idiot shout about whatever they wanted, they were about making it easier for people with more of a co-operative mindset to succeed within the party architecture. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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I'm looking forward to seeing my friends again, personally
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Communist Thoughts posted:That article was defending kiers decision not to oppose and also defending the media's decision not to attack the government. The person who wrote it's dad resigned as an MP after being caught selling journalists access to his political contacts lol
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I'm ready to be vaccinated by September but very sceptical that it will actually happen
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multijoe posted:I'm looking forward to seeing my friends again, personally Yeah alright, dinnae show off.
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I've made new friends (bought lots of houseplants)
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I have a feeling that the Friday night after pubs reopen will have a higher death toll than covid. It will be like every payday weekend coming at once. The streets will run with blood and bile. It will be incredible.
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e: ^^^^ & did it come from the political fund, and also what is a political fund Turns out that I'm a proper social butterfly since Covid, I already had a weekly RP session so we just moved onto Zoom+roll20 & carried on as normal but without needing a designated driver, all the non-nerds I know are well jealous
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ThomasPaine posted:I have a feeling that the Friday night after pubs reopen will have a higher death toll than covid. It will be like every payday weekend coming at once. The streets will run with blood and bile. It will be incredible. With all these people whose tolerance to alcohol has dropped greatly, if I worked in a Casualty department I'd be booking the weekend or two after pubs are due to reopen off.
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multijoe posted:I'm looking forward to seeing my friends again, personally
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forkboy84 posted:With all these people whose tolerance to alcohol has dropped greatly, if I worked in a Casualty department I'd be booking the weekend or two after pubs are due to reopen off. Wait there are people who have drank less over lockdown???
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forkboy84 posted:all these people whose tolerance to alcohol has dropped greatly
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ThomasPaine posted:Wait there are people who have drank less over lockdown??? I went nearly dry over lockdown, I realised pretty early on lockdown depression was going to be bad enough without adding literal depressants into the mix, definitely ended up being the right call
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ThomasPaine posted:Wait there are people who have drank less over lockdown??? I’m drinking more frequently but at lower volumes: a small glass wine or a half or full beer most evenings. Haven’t been drunk for a year.
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forkboy84 posted:With all these people whose tolerance to alcohol has dropped greatly, if I worked in a Casualty department I'd be booking the weekend or two after pubs are due to reopen off. All leave is cancelled (for cops and A&E staff). CLP chat: One of my former comrades who was suspended this week has now quit the party. She's been very proactive in party matters, held several officer posts, campaigned so hard for local and general elections, doing stalls and so on. A big loss to the party. TACD posted:I'm looking forward to feeling 10× as guilty every time I blow off a social event. Christmas 2020 was such a huge relief to me, all the emotional blackmail I'm usually subjected to now I live near family about doing Xmas was off the agenda. I haven't done Xmas for at least 25 years now and they didn't care when I lived in London / Cairo but now, it's bombardment every year - wanting to stay on my own is "making it awkward for everyone else" (why? who knows! I tell them - pretend I still live 3000 miles away!) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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ThomasPaine posted:Wait there are people who have drank less over lockdown??? I was a pretty regular drinker pre lockdown and now I haven't had a drink in like 14 months.
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gh0stpinballa posted:https://twitter.com/wearetruthers/status/1351227022312435713?s=19 Yeah man wallow in the toxic poo poo. What's the worst that could happen?
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multijoe posted:I went nearly dry over lockdown, I realised pretty early on lockdown depression was going to be bad enough without adding literal depressants into the mix, definitely ended up being the right call it's a central nervous system depressant, not in the sense it will induce clinical depression. there are antidepressants which are depressants under that model. with that said i also had to radically cut down my drinking after the first few months of lockdown - bottle of vodka a month is my limit now, and i don't think i'll be going back to more than that any time soon.
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