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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

ThomasPaine posted:

Wait there are people who have drank less over lockdown???

Yeah, I drink with other people, and I smoke weed when I'm by myself. Drunk buzz does nothing for me if I'm not talking rubbish at other people, and my aul fella was a degenerate alcoholic anyway so I'm better off not going down the solo boozing road

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crazyvanman
Dec 31, 2010

Borrovan posted:

weirdos, most of us could outdrink God at this point

Actually God abhors alcohol. How do I know this? Because a Christian kid at school told me. How did he respond to my 'what about water into wine'? That is actually a misnomer, apparently, because Jesus actually turned the water into 'fermented grape juice'. How did he respond to my 'that is wine'? Well, you see, his church explained that Jesus actually turned the water into a special non-alcoholic fermented grape juice that was popular at the time.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
Doesn't the wine turn into blood when you drink it? So it's fine.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

crazyvanman posted:

Actually God abhors alcohol. How do I know this? Because a Christian kid at school told me. How did he respond to my 'what about water into wine'? That is actually a misnomer, apparently, because Jesus actually turned the water into 'fermented grape juice'. How did he respond to my 'that is wine'? Well, you see, his church explained that Jesus actually turned the water into a special non-alcoholic fermented grape juice that was popular at the time.

How did they remove the alcohol? Seems like a lot of effort to make non-alcoholic wine for reasons

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Failed Imagineer posted:

Yeah, I drink with other people, and I smoke weed when I'm by myself. Drunk buzz does nothing for me if I'm not talking rubbish at other people, and my aul fella was a degenerate alcoholic anyway so I'm better off not going down the solo boozing road

Yeah try being locked down over winter with your partner who is as much a functional alkie as you are lol

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Regarde Aduck posted:

Yeah man wallow in the toxic poo poo. What's the worst that could happen?

this thread is full of posts about the latest twists and turns in labour party drama as if the labour party or electoral politics matter anymore. i think i'm fine making fun of some loser comedian tbh.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



therattle posted:

I’m drinking more frequently but at lower volumes: a small glass wine or a half or full beer most evenings. Haven’t been drunk for a year.

I've definitely been drunk but I haven't been blackout crippling hangover drunk. I definitely drank a lot more in the week for a good while. I've cut down since the new year but on average I'd say I drink more than I did in the before times.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


ThomasPaine posted:

Wait there are people who have drank less over lockdown???

I'm assuming so? I dunno, drinking at home past one drink is something I stay away from because I had enough bad experiences.

Just seems people drink heavily on a weekend in a way that isn't so conducive to home drinking?

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Failed Imagineer posted:

How did they remove the alcohol? Seems like a lot of effort to make non-alcoholic wine for reasons

they simply boiled it at 78.5C, with the aid of a thermometer

crazyvanman
Dec 31, 2010

Failed Imagineer posted:

How did they remove the alcohol? Seems like a lot of effort to make non-alcoholic wine for reasons

Logic, in my fundamentalist revisionist interpretation of the bible?

To be fair to the kid he was only 15 so he just lapped up whatever bullshit his church fed him. But I showed him this post from a Christian site that concludes that Jesus was definitely a cool guy when it came to wine: https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-water-wine.html

Tbh we all know wine tastes like poo poo but has the advantage of being alcoholic. If Jesus came to my party and turned my water into a non-alcoholic vinegar drink I would tell him to do one and I'd stick to pagan water.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
I mean the wine drunk at the time probably had to have water added to it. I think the Romans were forever complaining that the various different Celtic groups drank their wine "neat".

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Regarde Aduck posted:

Yeah man wallow in the toxic poo poo. What's the worst that could happen?
I'm sort of curious about a summary of why it's insane but I'm not going to waste my time or emotional energy watching something that's just going to wind me up.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I miss red wine but it turns me into a chaos elemental

Desiderata
May 25, 2005
Go placidly amid the noise and haste...

gh0stpinballa posted:

https://twitter.com/wearetruthers/status/1351227022312435713?s=19

found this garbage and now i want you all to suffer too

I like that even his parody of a left wing anti-Semite is: squeaky voiced, superior, and says they know history and... that's it. Ok there is the final line taking the swing: "telling them what to do and attribute the blame", but it remains vague about, blame for what, or what 'telling jewish people what to do' the left take part in.

Even his parody of his opponent couldn't find any substance to complain about, other than the old rightwing gripe of the left being superior, knows-best, do-gooders... you think he would have gone with "global bankers" is the left being crypto-antisemites or something but perhaps even he realized that isn't going to sound right since, well people really do hate bankers, not (((bankers))), but legitimately bankers.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I'm sort of curious about a summary of why it's insane but I'm not going to waste my time or emotional energy watching something that's just going to wind me up.

Me too. I actively avoid truther/conspiracy poo poo because it makes me feel really miserable, angry and uncomfortable.

e: I have now watched it based on the previous comments. It's not crazy, just a bit poo poo.

The Perfect Element fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Feb 23, 2021

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

therattle posted:

I’m drinking more frequently but at lower volumes: a small glass wine or a half or full beer most evenings. Haven’t been drunk for a year.

I was doing shorts of whatever whisky was lying around in between beers while just sitting around watching TV. I even bought some of those fancy omnipollo beers for variety

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Josef bugman posted:

I mean the wine drunk at the time probably had to have water added to it. I think the Romans were forever complaining that the various different Celtic groups drank their wine "neat".

It was, if you had a bit of money. Most water sources near settlements were filthy for various reasons, so diluted wine was about as safe as anything else to drink

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


gh0stpinballa posted:

https://twitter.com/wearetruthers/status/1351227022312435713?s=19

found this garbage and now i want you all to suffer too

Oh god, I keep getting their posts promoted on my Facebook page. The Facebook ads I get are them & loving Scottish Tories. Enraging.

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

Josef bugman posted:

I mean the wine drunk at the time probably had to have water added to it. I think the Romans were forever complaining that the various different Celtic groups drank their wine "neat".
Diluted and sweetened with honey or other things such as lead acetate. Roman "wine" was basically flat spritzers.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Josef bugman posted:

I mean the wine drunk at the time probably had to have water added to it. I think the Romans were forever complaining that the various different Celtic groups drank their wine "neat".

It didn't HAVE to have water added, it wasn't some kind of ancient superwine or anything, but yeah the Greeks thought drinking it neat was uncouth and let's not even talk about that barbarian 'beer' nonsense...

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

ThomasPaine posted:

Yeah try being locked down over winter with your partner who is as much a functional alkie as you are lol

I mean yeah I also have a partner who has/had 2 alcoholic parents, as well as my own family history, so I get it. But I just try to ski away from the slippery slope

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah as far as I know the technology to make strong alcohol didn't exist until someone invented the still (and avoided blowing themselves up long enough to tell other people about it) so romans just really liked alcopops.

Conquered half the world on WKD and worcester sauce.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Failed Imagineer posted:

I mean yeah I also have a partner who has/had 2 alcoholic parents, as well as my own family history, so I get it. But I just try to ski away from the slippery slope

I am not criticising, I am just admiring your self-discipline. Honestly, the boredom is crippling in a way I had never expected so me and my partner have been just sitting watching trash and getting blackout drunk a couple times a week. We used to do that occasionally but saved the really heavy drinking for when we went on nights out with friends. And this is an improvement. We had to consciously decide to cut back after the realisation that we'd mananged to get through 15 bottles between us in less than a week over christmas/new year. Lockdown has normalised some pretty unhealthy behaviours that I think will take some time to unlearn!

Communist Thoughts posted:

I miss red wine but it turns me into a chaos elemental

Red wine: Nice meal and chill conversation
White wine: Utter rocket fuel. You will end up opening that last bottle you absolutely should not open and embarass yourself.

I don't make the rules.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Feb 23, 2021

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

feedmegin posted:

It didn't HAVE to have water added, it wasn't some kind of ancient superwine or anything, but yeah the Greeks thought drinking it neat was uncouth and let's not even talk about that barbarian 'beer' nonsense...

It would have been considerably weaker than modern wine, they didn't really understand the process and certainly didn't know how to cultivate yeasts that can cope with higher alcohol concentrations, so it's likely it topped out at around 5% ABV which is the limit of most natural yeasts.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

OwlFancier posted:

Yeah as far as I know the technology to make strong alcohol didn't exist until someone invented the still (and avoided blowing themselves up long enough to tell other people about it) so romans just really liked alcopops.

Conquered half the world on WKD and worcester sauce.

there were ways of purifying alcohol but they all sucked rear end. freeze distillation was popular for example in some regions.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

ThomasPaine posted:

I am not criticising, I am just admiring your self-discipline. Honestly, the boredom is crippling in a way I had never expected so me and my partner have been just sitting watching trash and getting blackout drunk a couple times a week. We used to do that occasionally but saved the really heavy drinking for when we went on nights out with friends. And this is an improvement. We had to consciously decide to cut back after the realisation that we'd mananged to get through 15 bottles between us in less than a week over christmas/new year. Lockdown has normalised some pretty unhealthy behaviours that I think will take some time to unlearn!

Yeah no, no criticism was implied or inferred. Just generally empathising. poo poo's tough :respek:

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


https://twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1364204680214151170?s=20

Labour ditched the entire Liverpool mayoral election process for unspecified reasons - none of the existing candidates allowed back in. All "newcomers" now have 48 hours (starting NOW) to get their ballots in. Well, I say unspecified, but I mean that the outright socialist with the support of Corbyn and the unions was favoured to win ...

What a great party.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

ThomasPaine posted:


Red wine: Nice meal and chill conversation
White wine: Utter rocket fuel. You will end up opening that last bottle you absolutely should not open and embarass yourself.

I don't make the rules.

red wine gives me dark green shits the following day

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Red wine gives me really filthy hangovers, so I usually avoid it.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

I mixed ale and white wine round a BBQ at my Dad's last year and I was so sick the next day I burst a blood vessel in my eye, my stomach felt like I'd stripped out all the lining too. So in the future I think I'll just avoid getting pissed on any kind of wine at all

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

multijoe posted:

I mixed ale and white wine round a BBQ at my Dad's last year and I was so sick the next day I burst a blood vessel in my eye, my stomach felt like I'd stripped out all the lining too. So in the future I think I'll just avoid getting pissed on any kind of wine at all

I hope you mean you had both ale and white wine at different points in the night, and not you inexplicably decided to make the world's most disgusting cocktail at a family BBQ

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

Junior G-man posted:

https://twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1364204680214151170?s=20

Labour ditched the entire Liverpool mayoral election process for unspecified reasons - none of the existing candidates allowed back in. All "newcomers" now have 48 hours (starting NOW) to get their ballots in. Well, I say unspecified, but I mean that the outright socialist with the support of Corbyn and the unions was favoured to win ...

What a great party.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

ThomasPaine posted:

I hope you mean you had both ale and white wine at different points in the night, and not you inexplicably decided to make the world's most disgusting cocktail at a family BBQ

We call it English Juice in my household

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Junior G-man posted:

Labour ditched the entire Liverpool mayoral election process for unspecified reasons - none of the existing candidates allowed back in. All "newcomers" now have 48 hours (starting NOW) to get their ballots in. Well, I say unspecified, but I mean that the outright socialist with the support of Corbyn and the unions was favoured to win ...

What a great party.

It's just so stupid. What powers does a loving mayor have in this country? And yet the people in charge have to stamp down on leftie dissent so hard it causes them to keep slipping on dog turds.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They have a public platform, and if there is one thing the labour right understands it is the desire to deny anyone else a platform.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Kieth might actually get labour to lose an election in liverpool. Just loving galaxy brained stuff.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They are likely just looking to trade off of "who are you going to vote for, the tories?" which as we have seen works just fine up until it sours people with you long term.

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010
Kief just delimbing his left side of he body such is he hatred of the left

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I'm still uncertain whether this is incompetence or if things are going exactly as intended

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Desiderata posted:

I like that even his parody of a left wing anti-Semite is: squeaky voiced, superior, and says they know history and... that's it. Ok there is the final line taking the swing: "telling them what to do and attribute the blame", but it remains vague about, blame for what, or what 'telling jewish people what to do' the left take part in.

Even his parody of his opponent couldn't find any substance to complain about, other than the old rightwing gripe of the left being superior, knows-best, do-gooders... you think he would have gone with "global bankers" is the left being crypto-antisemites or something but perhaps even he realized that isn't going to sound right since, well people really do hate bankers, not (((bankers))), but legitimately bankers.
I think I preferred it when the stereotype of the left was scruffy and a bit 'swarthy' and the stereotype of the right was elitists in powdered wigs with an entourage, because even though it's blatantly offensive it's probably closer to material reality than this new hotness.


OwlFancier posted:

Yeah as far as I know the technology to make strong alcohol didn't exist until someone invented the still (and avoided blowing themselves up long enough to tell other people about it) so romans just really liked alcopops.

Conquered half the world on WKD and worcester sauce.
Chemists had been distilling alcohol in the Levant for centuries before someone made the mistake of letting a poet near it, then suddenly everyone knew.

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