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spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

https://twitter.com/LoganAtlGA/status/1364086215402803201

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Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

spacemang_spliff posted:

lib blue checks and pundits think that a poor woman of color is affected more by Neera Tanden becoming OMB than a living wage, universal prek or universal healthcare

since the public can no longer be trusted with direct political power to work in their own interests through mass action (that's populism!), your only proxy for power is to glom on to an oligarch or celebrity or technocrat via supposedly shared identity features then become their feudal minion defending whatever their politics happens to be. by substituting their political beliefs and interests in place of your own, your new political beliefs now have power and platform and relevance. one weird trick. qed

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Eggplant Squire posted:

Nah they just don't care about the poor at all.

they do if they can use them

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1364125178230411264
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1364036771642810369
https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1364030740036538369

I followed Parker Molloy after she got dogpiled by libs for saying that she didn't want to vote for Democrats because I wanted to show some solidarity and figured that maybe going through that experience would be a learning experience the way it was for Peter Daou and Ryan Knight but her feed is just retweets of Resistance stuff like this and complaining about Fox News complaining about Muppets and it's just so drab

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


spacemang_spliff posted:

they do if they can use them

Well yeah but that doesn't really count as caring and is probably worse than ambivalence since it shows they are at least aware enough to know there is suffering. It's like how we've already had two televised ceremonies for the dead from Corona but somehow the relief bill won't even be ready until mid March.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1364031341122191366

bold of the democrats to pick another woman poc completely throwing their quislings current woke talking points under the bus for no reason

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Eggplant Squire posted:

Well yeah but that doesn't really count as caring and is probably worse than ambivalence since it shows they are at least aware enough to know there is suffering. It's like how we've already had two televised ceremonies for the dead from Corona but somehow the relief bill won't even be ready until mid March.

I genuinely don't think they're capable of empathy for poor people

they're exactly the same as republicans. the poor should either be ignored because it's too inconvenient to help them or ignored because it's their fault they're poor

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Some Guy TT posted:

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1364031341122191366

bold of the democrats to pick another woman poc completely throwing their quislings current woke talking points under the bus for no reason

its awesome how the 100 articles about this that are all direct regurgitations of whatever talking points they were emailed include language like "democrats are quietly shifting to young as" as if there isnt a direct pr connection fromt he party to the media where they float this

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

disney/marvel is quietly planning on continuing the marvel cinematic universe franchise with thrilling entries appealing to viewers of all tastes, according to rumors circulating from anonymous insiders and a 120 page press packet

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE DON'T LOCK KIDS UP IN CAGES? :psyduck:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

spacemang_spliff posted:

lmao he has to recuse himself from all vaccine matters. during a global pandemic. a pandemic where the main effort to combat it is vaccinations.

The Democrats everyone!



Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Listen up, cspam libertarians, president Biden can either put kids in cages or scatter them to the winds, those are literally his only two options.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

lmao

they're just loving with Q chuds now aren't they

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004


lol

lander is also heading up the wrong side of the crispr discovery controversy, trying to erase the accomplishment of two labs led by women :thunk:

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Lib and let die posted:

Listen up, cspam libertarians, president Biden can either put kids in cages or scatter them to the winds, those are literally his only two options.

yeah, where do they think these unaccompanied minors were going to go if they didn't get apprehended? Just to be like homeless in the US or something?

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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this and supreme court appointments were literally the only two reasons the libs were able to come up with for why ppl should vote for biden, lol.

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Stringent posted:

this and supreme court appointments were literally the only two reasons the libs were able to come up with for why ppl should vote for biden, lol.

also covid deaths. which also lol

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Dolphin posted:

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1363643532544729095
i too would be immensely proud to have enough wisdom to listen to a guy explain 4th grade biology to me, in the way that a person explains things to a toddler

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Kalit posted:

If you're unsure that they still have armed guards there, then saying "these are still concentration camps for children" is in no way even close to correct. Once again, glad you're a responsible poster and making things up.

Obviously, if it was confirmed that there are armed guards, the OP would agree that Biden is sending children to concentration camps.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


Don't agree with the 2nd part but he's right that the core idea of qanon, that the rich and powerful are all above the law and probably pedophiles, is definitely true. Where it goes off the rails is that Trump is clearly one of them

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




Democrats are actually good: The Cadillac of Child Detention Centers

misadventurous
Jun 26, 2013

the wise gem bowed her head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad quartzes. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

Gulping Again posted:

uspol having Extremely Normal Ones in response to this

the prevalining response on both there and twitter seems to be “well sure it’s bad but do you have any better ideas?!”

ITS THE loving US GOVERNMENTS PROBLEM TO FIGURE THAT OUT rear end in a top hat

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

The Jimmy Eat World drummer started beefing with the Eve 6 guy

https://twitter.com/cskirmont/status/1364107888382382080?s=19

jimmy eat world hive

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Democrats are actually good: The Cadillac of Child Detention Centers

haha remember when we couldn't have health care reform because unions were mad their hard fought health plans might be available for everyone for free (they then lost those health plans)

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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misadventurous posted:

the prevalining response on both there and twitter seems to be “well sure it’s bad but do you have any better ideas?!”

SEEMS LIKE THE loving US GOVERNMENTS PROBLEM TO FIGURE THAT OUT NOT MINE rear end in a top hat

I have a better idea, don't detain the kids and let them go on to wherever they were headed.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

misadventurous posted:

the prevalining response on both there and twitter seems to be “well sure it’s bad but do you have any better ideas?!”

SEEMS LIKE THE loving US GOVERNMENTS PROBLEM TO FIGURE THAT OUT NOT MINE rear end in a top hat

it's the "well if you don't like [insert movie title] try making your own and let's see how you do it!" argument

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Stringent posted:

Obviously, if it was confirmed that there are armed guards, the OP would agree that Biden is sending children to concentration camps.

oh the children are free to leave at any time? that's good

and lol that they posted the loving dictionary definition of a concentration camp:

"a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard —used especially in reference to camps created by the Nazis in World War II for the internment and persecution of Jews and other prisoners"

and then acted like it doesn't loving fit lmao

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

wild, who would have thought the Biden Administration would work with a company known for its staffers' "inappropriate relationships with children"? https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1364062458776752130

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

loquacius posted:

The Jimmy Eat World drummer started beefing with the Eve 6 guy

Bleed Cough American

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Grey Fox posted:

wild, who would have thought the Biden Administration would work with a company known for its staffers' "inappropriate relationships with children"? https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1364062458776752130

ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE DON'T FEED THEM AT ALL?! I... I.. I...:psyduck:

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
For those interested, the camp is where it is as it's a pre-existing residential facility for oil workers some 30 miles from the Mexico border, just outside Carizzo Springs TX, (pop. 5368)

980 Munson Road, Carizzo Springs, TX

https://tinyurl.com/majorian

Click for Google Maps. Tina's Tacos in Carizzo Hill is a few hundred meters away.

https://www.readytotrip.com/hotels/U.S.A./Texas/Carrizo%20Springs/the-studios-at-carrizo-springs/


So see guys it's not a concentration camp because the little mexican kids who are detained there can go get Tinas Tacos

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

hey what if we just let the kids into the country and/or foster homes if available or immediate family members if they specify them?

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
Sorry to interrupt your rant here but ICE isn't holding these kids. Can you go back and edit your post to be angry about the Office of Refugee Resettlement, which is part of HHS, not DHS? Thanks.

As to conditions at the camp, it used to be a housing camp for oil workers run by Stratton Oilfield Systems, called "The Studios at Carizzo Springs".

https://www.vice.com/en/article/vb9xga/the-trump-administration-is-converting-a-former-man-camp-in-texas-into-a-shelter-for-migrant-kids

https://eaglefordshale.com/efs-news/press-releases/the-studios-at-carrizo-springs-provides-state-of-the-art-eagle-ford-accomodations

"The detention centers overseen by ICE are reserved for adults or families and often are run by private prison companies. Carrizo Springs is run by the nonprofit BCFS Health and Human Services, a government contractor for the Office of Refugee Resettlement, the agency within HHS that focuses on unaccompanied children."

It is a temporary refugee camp run by a nonprofit for the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These are in a different government department from ICE, who are all, as we 100% agree, shitbags who deserve to be punished. It's not a jail, calling it a concentration camp is frankly a lie - children stay there on average 42 days before being released to sponsors. Even if they were in hotels they would still be there some time, so while 42 days isn't the 20 days agreed in the consent decree, it's a transient refugee camp run by HHS Office of Refugee Resettlement.

The ICE camps, on the other hand, are loving evil. Can we at least not tar ORR with the same brush needlessly?

https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1364063977383153666

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

zegermans posted:

hey what if we just let the kids into the country and/or foster homes if available or immediate family members if they specify them?

No

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Grey Fox posted:

wild, who would have thought the Biden Administration would work with a company known for its staffers' "inappropriate relationships with children"? https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1364062458776752130

i assumed the baptist naming was just a legacy but lol its still self-described as faith-based as recently as 2015 (when obama gave it a huge kid imprisonment contract)

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

spacemang_spliff posted:

Sorry to interrupt your rant here but ICE isn't holding these kids. Can you go back and edit your post to be angry about the Office of Refugee Resettlement, which is part of HHS, not DHS? Thanks.

As to conditions at the camp, it used to be a housing camp for oil workers run by Stratton Oilfield Systems, called "The Studios at Carizzo Springs".

https://www.vice.com/en/article/vb9xga/the-trump-administration-is-converting-a-former-man-camp-in-texas-into-a-shelter-for-migrant-kids

https://eaglefordshale.com/efs-news/press-releases/the-studios-at-carrizo-springs-provides-state-of-the-art-eagle-ford-accomodations

"The detention centers overseen by ICE are reserved for adults or families and often are run by private prison companies. Carrizo Springs is run by the nonprofit BCFS Health and Human Services, a government contractor for the Office of Refugee Resettlement, the agency within HHS that focuses on unaccompanied children."

It is a temporary refugee camp run by a nonprofit for the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These are in a different government department from ICE, who are all, as we 100% agree, shitbags who deserve to be punished. It's not a jail, calling it a concentration camp is frankly a lie - children stay there on average 42 days before being released to sponsors. Even if they were in hotels they would still be there some time, so while 42 days isn't the 20 days agreed in the consent decree, it's a transient refugee camp run by HHS Office of Refugee Resettlement.

The ICE camps, on the other hand, are loving evil. Can we at least not tar ORR with the same brush needlessly?

https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1364063977383153666

Hey you're not doomtrain

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
I'm shocked, SHOCKED to see liberals in a certain forum defending concentration camps just because it's their team doing them.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Rust Martialis posted:

But you know, trying and failing to score cheap debating points by endlessly repeating "concentration camp" seems to be a thing for some people with their own mad rhetorical skills owning the succlibs.

does anyone wanna go tell them?

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Lib and let die posted:

Hey you're not doomtrain

he's out today so I'm covering for him

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


paine is of course beginning to probate anyone who thinks that concentration camps are bad

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