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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
When you find the smoking gun, slap up a 'no smoking' sign and walk out, job done.

e: The matriarch Sarah died at the age of 127, something to do with ages being stored as a signed 8-bit integer back then.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Feb 24, 2021

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TACD
Oct 27, 2000

serious gaylord posted:

They're still saying they've got about 500,000 members, however given that you stay on the books for 6+ months when you've stopped paying your direct debit i very much doubt how true that is.
Turns out it’s very easy to get a lot of people in your club if you include people who don’t think they’re members and don’t pay anything for the privilege.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Reading the story, “weaken Russia” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that headline. The actual quote is “weaken Russia’s ability to influence its neighbours”, and appears to come from a discussion of what to do around the time the Crimea was annexed spontaneously decided to rejoin Russia.

Clicking through to the leaked documents takes you to a page purporting to be an Anonymous data dump that asserts the UK government is “quietly colonising the rest of Europe” and in support of this posts extracts from a bunch of documents with little structure and a lot of batshit overreach.

I don’t for one minute doubt that the FCO is trying to influence news organisations away from Russian attempts to do the same. The actual website with the linked documents is a bunch of conspiracy theory bullshit though.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


multijoe posted:

If the SCG had any spine they'd form a Change UK splinter org and put this party out its loving misery

Yeah, Change UK is the incredible success story we need to emulate.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Gonzo McFee posted:

Brown Moses is a CIA nonce you say? Who could have predicted it.

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1364285746757173249

Edit: also lol Twitter now posting "This may have been obtained through hacking" as if that's a disqualifier.

Didn't know the Grayzone published anything anymore apart form articles angrily insisting that all evidence about mass detention of Uighurs is American funded propaganda

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

serious gaylord posted:

Jose, hit the BM button.

lol i broke his brain

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Comrade Fakename posted:

Yeah, Change UK is the incredible success story we need to emulate.

I think you misunderstand, the goal wouldn't be to form a viable left party (yet), it would be to destroy the Labour Party. Which is actually what Change UK set to do against the Corbyn leadership and its hard to say they didn’t their goal.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Jose posted:

lol i broke his brain

I told you the lady on r4 was doing him over about it.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


multijoe posted:

I think you misunderstand, the goal wouldn't be to form a viable left party (yet), it would be to destroy the Labour Party. Which is actually what Change UK set to do against the Corbyn leadership and its hard to say they didn’t their goal.

Oh good, no major even slightly leftist party in the UK then at all, a great idea with no downsides.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

serious gaylord posted:

Jose, hit the BM button.
It's called a dual flush push actuator.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Comrade Fakename posted:

Oh good, no major even slightly leftist party in the UK then at all, a great idea with no downsides.

We don't have one now lol

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Gonzo McFee posted:

Brown Moses is a CIA nonce you say? Who could have predicted it.

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1364285746757173249

Edit: also lol Twitter now posting "This may have been obtained through hacking" as if that's a disqualifier.

Lmao, that's pretty bad. Though I guess I'm kind of surprised Reuters would get sucked into something like that?

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

A warning label that materials may have been obtained through hacking just makes them sound cooler

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

multijoe posted:

We don't have one now lol

Wondering which party actually sitting in Commons has the most left platform just now. Maybe Plaid Cymru?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

TACD posted:

A warning label that materials may have been obtained through hacking just makes them sound cooler

Warning: this tweet smokes and has a motorbike

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

TACD posted:

A warning label that materials may have been obtained through hacking just makes them sound cooler

It’s a bit like the Parental Advisory label.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Warning: this tweet smokes and has a motorbike

I guess it would be gauche to buy my own BRCT?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

The 90s start with Doctor Who getting cancelled, begin to end with Curse of Fatal Death and are gone by the time RTD brings it back.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

multijoe posted:

Online gaming in general has just been a godsend over the last years, I end up speaking to a few people now more than I used to between various game evenings
Maybe this is why the gammons are going properly insane - they've spent so many years railing about the facebooks and the video games, and now that's all there is, they're beginning to regret going in so hard on the whole rejecting of modernity and embracing of tradition. Except they can never admit they're wrong, so they won't start picking it up even when it's the only option. So they're probably feeling twice as nuts and lonely as any of us.


CoolCab posted:

we had tabletop games going but man i think it's even harder to be creative in these conditions.
The missus and I have started a game with some friends who have been watching Vox Machina / Crit Role, and I think they wanted an RP heavy campaign but it's so tough to bounce off other people when half the time you're talking over each other, then there's a few seconds of awkward 'no please, you go,' mics cutting out, delay issues meaning jokes are mistimed etc. I've had to drop the accent I was trying and one of the other players, a professional vlogger, keeps apologising for being too quiet and not chiming in enough.

I mean yes, we are measuring ourself against the yardstick of professional VO actors in a studio, but I don't think any of us really expected it to be quite so tough based on our past experiences.

Video chat really fucks with the natural flow of conversation, and it can be exhausting even with people who are aware of its problems.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Comrade Fakename posted:

Oh good, no major even slightly leftist party in the UK then at all, a great idea with no downsides.

A right wing "leftist" party is worse than no leftist party.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
why dont you want leftists to enjoy themselves you bastard?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


forkboy84 posted:

A right wing "leftist" party is worse than no leftist party.

Oh yeah, how’s your paramilitary training going?

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
oh christ do not try to run dnd via video chat. discord, because it has clearer ways to minimize crosstalk (which like you say is your #1 priority) and roll20. no more than six players, ideally about four. and be prepared to have some kind of, gentleman's agreement or quasi metagame thing where you all agree to share and rotate DM attention and talking time even out of combat.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

forkboy84 posted:

A right wing "leftist" party is worse than no leftist party.

Yeah, as long as they can plausibly call themselves left wing they'll suck up valuable talent and manpower that wouldn't willingly join an obvious soulless centrist husk.

E: misread

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Comrade Fakename posted:

Oh yeah, how’s your paramilitary training going?

you're sunk cost fallacy: the poster

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

Comrade Fakename posted:

Oh good, no major even slightly leftist party in the UK then at all, a great idea with no downsides.

the uk currently has no major slightly leftist party.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Comrade Fakename posted:

Oh yeah, how’s your paramilitary training going?

How's your doing gently caress all and whining about it on a forum going?

(I know I did some of this myself regarding Zero Covid recently - sorry about that, I do also do other stuff too, promise)

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






CoolCab posted:

oh christ do not try to run dnd via video chat. discord, because it has clearer ways to minimize crosstalk (which like you say is your #1 priority) and roll20. no more than six players, ideally about four. and be prepared to have some kind of, gentleman's agreement or quasi metagame thing where you all agree to share and rotate DM attention and talking time even out of combat.

In the world communists want, all players will have exactly equal DM attention, including the annoying bard.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Jakabite posted:

How's your doing gently caress all and whining about it on a forum going?

(I know I did some of this myself regarding Zero Covid recently - sorry about that, I do also do other stuff too, promise)

I work full-time for Momentum.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Comrade Fakename posted:

Oh yeah, how’s your paramilitary training going?

About as well as your full-time work for Momentum by the looks of things.

I'm being loving snarky of course, which is the seriousness your own snark warrants. But yeah, as much as I think that socialism isn't happening through liberal democracy, I have been pretty consistent the past 12-15 months: A group of Labour left MPs, backed by the more aggressive trade unions, & with the campaigning power of Momentum, has more chance of influencing politics in the UK as a new party (much like Jimmy Maxton's Independent Labour Party in the '30s) than they do within the rotten carcass of Labour.

The thing that would make it different from other Labour off-shoots in the past 40 years is simple: Socialist Party/Militant at their peak had what, 2 MPs? Socialist Labour had nothing. Respect had Galloway which is worse than nothing. The SCG has 34 MPs right now. Which is probably the largest its been since...I dunno, the Iraq War? Since it was founded?

I'll be blunt. I'm loving poor, I see no signs of that changing any time soon. I'd rather burn Labour down and see something new grown from the ashes because what we've got sure as poo poo isn't working. It's a party full of wreckers & opportunists.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Feb 24, 2021

Mebh
May 10, 2010


I've been playing Valheim with the wife. It's bloody good fun.

Also burn the Labour Party to the ground and salt the earth. It's pretty much the only way we'll get anywhere long term with a leftist agenda.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Beefeater1980 posted:

In the world communists want, all players will have exactly equal DM attention, including the annoying bard.
It's always the loving bard, isn't it?

Random Integer
Oct 7, 2010

CoolCab posted:

oh christ do not try to run dnd via video chat. discord, because it has clearer ways to minimize crosstalk (which like you say is your #1 priority) and roll20. no more than six players, ideally about four. and be prepared to have some kind of, gentleman's agreement or quasi metagame thing where you all agree to share and rotate DM attention and talking time even out of combat.

I regularly play rpgs over zoom all the time, no problem. By contrast we tried discord first and it was terrible, constant audio problems. I think if you're used to playing with each other the platform doesn't matter and if you're relatively new to playing with each other its going to take a while to find your rhythm no matter the platform. In my experience stuff like roll20 is more useful for its ability to free up the gms attention than anything else.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I played with a group over Discord and Roll20 without trouble, until we got into trouble because disability, sicknesses, work hours changing, and uni for assorted people made it impossible for us all to make a session

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Zoom+roll20 works really well for us, it's actually not really very different from in-person.

It probably helps that it's the same group that I've been playing with for like a decade though.

Random Integer posted:

I regularly play rpgs over zoom all the time, no problem. By contrast we tried discord first and it was terrible, constant audio problems. I think if you're used to playing with each other the platform doesn't matter and if you're relatively new to playing with each other its going to take a while to find your rhythm no matter the platform. In my experience stuff like roll20 is more useful for its ability to free up the gms attention than anything else.
Everything in this post, basically.

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


Ms Adequate posted:

I played with a group over Discord and Roll20 without trouble, until we got into trouble because disability, sicknesses, work hours changing, and uni for assorted people made it impossible for us all to make a session

We cut our sessions from 4+ hours once a month in person to 1-2 hours, 2-3 times a month remotely and it’s worked really well. It’s such a pain to get everyone together that you need to make the most of it, but switching the mindset from “can you give up an entire evening, and drive” to “can you jump on your computer for an hour tonight?” really helped keep our game going.

Edit: we even added a 4th player, something we’ve avoided for two years of gaming just for logistical reasons.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
https://twitter.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1364220643512700928

This is gathering steam.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I guess it would be gauche to buy my own BRCT?

Very tempted to change your red text to this instead

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

Comrade Fakename posted:

I work full-time for Momentum.

Got any proof that you actually even exist as a human being mate

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Gato
Feb 1, 2012

forkboy84 posted:

About as well as your full-time work for Momentum by the looks of things.

I'm being loving snarky of course, which is the seriousness your own snark warrants. But yeah, as much as I think that socialism isn't happening through liberal democracy, I have been pretty consistent the past 12-15 months: A group of Labour left MPs, backed by the more aggressive trade unions, & with the campaigning power of Momentum, has more chance of influencing politics in the UK as a new party (much like Jimmy Maxton's Independent Labour Party in the '30s) than they do within the rotten carcass of Labour.

The thing that would make it different from other Labour off-shoots in the past 40 years is simple: Socialist Party/Militant at their peak had what, 2 MPs? Socialist Labour had nothing. Respect had Galloway which is worse than nothing. The SCG has 34 MPs right now. Which is probably the largest its been since...I dunno, the Iraq War? Since it was founded?

I'll be blunt. I'm loving poor, I see no signs of that changing any time soon. I'd rather burn Labour down and see something new grown from the ashes because what we've got sure as poo poo isn't working. It's a party full of wreckers & opportunists.

best-case scenario I can come up with for the hypothetical SCG defection:
- 20 or so SCG MPs resign the whip (pretty sure some would get cold feet) backed by 1 or 2 major unions. They get a few days of press coverage, most of it overwhelmingly negative ("look at these dumb lefty wreckers") but enough to make the public remember they exist. They instantly become the fourth largest party in Parliament.
- Over the next few years they diligently start putting out their own press releases actually attacking the government while Keith (or his successor) carries on waffling bipartisanly. Like the Greens, they get some coverage by the papers and BBC, mostly because it makes people mad which gets clicks, but also enough to remind people they exist. The MPs focus on building a decent support base in their actual constituencies.
- General Election comes around, Tories win in a landslide, about half the SCG lose their seats, but the ones with better local support hold on.
- You now have a stable left-wing party with a decent commons presence which can put pressure on Labour from the left and start cannibalizing their weaker seats.
- Climate change sinks the country into the sea

that's the dream. Of course if Bojo calls an early election they'd probably get wiped out, but Labour are going to get annihilated no matter what so :shrug:

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