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namesake posted:The Labour right has an explicit position of authoritarian social conservatism and neoliberal pro-business platforms like market creation and deregulation. e: The Messerschmitt Me 163 Komet was a rocket powered interceptor with a hypergolic corrosive liquid bipropellant and a habit of spontaneously rearranging itself. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Even before the centropocalypse I was going to be in a difficult position in the locals because one of the Tory councilors actually resigned from the party over the Westferry Printers fiasco and has generally been the actual only useful person in our entire local government over all kinds of issues. Now I feel completely free to vote for him because gently caress the Labour Party.
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Feb 25, 2021 10:42
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Just a totally worthless nation https://twitter.com/hettieveronica/status/1364875013854285827?s=19
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Feb 25, 2021 10:54
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You know, you could actually research the councillor candidates and vote for the actually good ones. There are plenty of lefty Labour councillors.
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Feb 25, 2021 10:54
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A loose Tory acquaintance of mine calls me at 1:00am today and asks me if I could print something on the Isle of Dogs for her and bring it over in the afternoon. "Hey yeah sure sure, whatever you need I'll help you, I'm all yours," I tell her. She sends me this file and lo and behold I can't open it. It's made in Microsoft Publisher and I don't have that program so I begin panicing, trying to find this program or a way to print the file. Scouring the internet yields no results and I do my usual pacing in my room. I finally come up with an idea and I tell the girl, if I can proceed with it. The plan was I would move the printworks about 50 miles to Luton, print out the needed pages, maybe redevelop the site a bit while I was there. I was hoping for at least a property deal out of this.
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Feb 25, 2021 10:55
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Not sure I am super keen to find out where the loose tories sit in relation to the wet, dry, and old tories. Though I assume wherever it is, it has plastic sheeting put down first..
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Feb 25, 2021 10:57
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Just get her to print it to pdf, or the weird not-pdf format built into office.
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Feb 25, 2021 10:58
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Vitamin P posted:Yeah it seems like David Cameron is the actual good guy in this story? The EU offered to throw migrants under the bus to stop brexit, but Cameron (like everyone) was confident enough that Remain would win that he told them no don't do that? I don't read it that way, rather that the EU *would* have thrown migrants under the bus (remember, that's what Cameron went around Europe asking for then came back empty handed which is what really drove the referendum argument) but Cameron's hubris meant he never asked them and instead repeatedly told the EU that remain would win easily. I've seen loads of people stating that they voted Leave due to the EU's refusal to give Cameron any kind of deal regarding migration, and if this story is true then it seems his stance to say he'd win easily directly led to him losing.
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Feb 25, 2021 10:58
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Comrade Fakename posted:You know, you could actually research the councillor candidates and vote for the actually good ones. There are plenty of lefty Labour councillors. Kieth and his mates are still going to claim that vote as an endorsement of their leadership though. It's something I'm trying to figure out myself right now - my local Labour candidate is a good guy, but I really don't want to support the Labour Party in general.
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Feb 25, 2021 10:59
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Jose posted:Just a totally worthless nation Trash country absolute garbage
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Feb 25, 2021 11:03
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How do you even fix that level of warped psychological outlook?
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Feb 25, 2021 11:06
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Lol kieth https://twitter.com/Fighting_Fund/status/1364666542919671808?s=19 https://twitter.com/Fighting_Fund/status/1364666549534158848?s=19
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Feb 25, 2021 11:11
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Guavanaut posted:How do you even fix that level of warped psychological outlook? I genuinely don't think you can.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:11
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I don't think you do, really, people who have not been given a reason to understand never will.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:12
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If you remove all the people who just failed to breathe hard enough, there were actually only 5 covid deaths.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:15
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Wolfsbane posted:Kieth and his mates are still going to claim that vote as an endorsement of their leadership though. It's something I'm trying to figure out myself right now - my local Labour candidate is a good guy, but I really don't want to support the Labour Party in general. I don’t think it’s likely to happen as not enough people pay close enough attention to local politics, but if left-wing Labour councillors did much better than right-wing ones, it would be very hard for Keith to spin that as a victory for him.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:16
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Guavanaut posted:If you remove all the people who just failed to breathe hard enough, there were actually only 5 covid deaths. If there isn't an op-ed somewhere saying more or less exactly this there will be eventually
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Feb 25, 2021 11:20
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Barry Foster posted:If there isn't an op-ed somewhere saying more or less exactly this there will be eventually There's a small but vocal contingent in the covid thread here that are of the belief that anyone dying of covid died because they didn't spend enough money on full-face respirators or left their goonhole for 3 seconds longer than was absolutely required for survival.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:24
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Guavanaut posted:If you remove all the people who just failed to breathe hard enough, there were actually only 5 covid deaths. This isn't really that far from the "logic" of "Only people with comorbidities die of COVID!". To which of course I say: - find me a 65+ Westerner without comorbidities - eugenics eh? - btw this is not true - where's your loving chin???!! goddamnedtwisto posted:There's a small but vocal contingent in the covid thread here that are of the belief that anyone dying of covid died because they didn't spend enough money on full-face respirators or left their goonhole for 3 seconds longer than was absolutely required for survival. What I do with my goonhole is my own business
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Feb 25, 2021 11:26
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Comrade Fakename posted:I don’t think it’s likely to happen as not enough people pay close enough attention to local politics, but if left-wing Labour councillors did much better than right-wing ones, it would be very hard for Keith to spin that as a victory for him. Nobody is going to pay any attention to the individual politics of a handful of councillors out of thousands.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:28
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Failed Imagineer posted:This isn't really that far from the "logic" of "Only people with comorbidities die of COVID!".  Noxville posted:Nobody is going to pay any attention to the individual politics of a handful of councillors out of thousands.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:31
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I just got vaccinated (one of the advantage of being a carer). I was in and out in less than five minutes. I didn’t even have time to fill in the form they gave me. Very well staffed, lots of people giving instructions, super quick and efficient. (We got Pfizer). My wife just got into the car. 6 minutes for her.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:31
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Noxville posted:Nobody is going to pay any attention to the individual politics of a handful of councillors out of thousands. Sure, but then we’re in to the realm of “what is the point of voting at all”. You should use your vote to advance your own personal agenda. And there is no need or benefit to punishing good, socialist councillors just because they have “Labour” next to their name. If left councillors do well in contrast to Labour right ones, that is also bad for Starmer.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:35
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Guavanaut posted:A loose Tory acquaintance of mine calls me at 1:00am today and asks me if I could print something on the Isle of Dogs for her and bring it over in the afternoon. "Hey yeah sure sure, whatever you need I'll help you, I'm all yours," I tell her. She sends me this file and lo and behold I can't open it. It's made in Microsoft Publisher and I don't have that program so I begin panicing, trying to find this program or a way to print the file. Scouring the internet yields no results and I do my usual pacing in my room. 
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Feb 25, 2021 11:52
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therattle posted:I just got vaccinated (one of the advantage of being a carer). I was in and out in less than five minutes. I didn’t even have time to fill in the form they gave me. Very well staffed, lots of people giving instructions, super quick and efficient. (We got Pfizer). My wife just got into the car. 6 minutes for her. Yeah I got vaccinated yesterday and it was insanely fast. My Ubers both came within 30 seconds of hitting the button too, so I actually got back home 3 minutes before the appointment time. Got a really mild headache and fever today.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:52
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I am really conflicted about the idea of loving up Labour at local elections. Local elections really matter. Councils aren't deciding on Britain's broad economic approach or the importance of trade unions or the role Britain should play in Europe. They're deciding how your local social care budget is spent. Whether you get bike lanes and more play parks. Whether there's any affordable housing requirement in new developments, whether your library stays open, and if we close all youth clubs in exchange for a £1.50 cut in council tax. How much latitude is given to the psychotic free school that happens to be in a very Tory voting area. It's poo poo that immediately affects your life and the lives of vulnerable people in your area. I don't want to make where I live more poo poo and cruel to make Kieth understand that I would like corporation tax to increase by 2% actually.
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Feb 25, 2021 11:53
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Yeah I got vaccinated yesterday and it was insanely fast. My Ubers both came within 30 seconds of hitting the button too, so I actually got back home 3 minutes before the appointment time. Vaccinations give you limited time travel powers... an unexpected adverse event to be sure, but a welcome one
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Feb 25, 2021 11:54
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peanut- posted:I am really conflicted about the idea of loving up Labour at local elections. and that's how the ratchet works (tbc you should vote or not vote according to your conscience, I'm not telling you either way)
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Feb 25, 2021 11:57
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Comrade Fakename posted:I don’t think it’s likely to happen as not enough people pay close enough attention to local politics, but if left-wing Labour councillors did much better than right-wing ones, it would be very hard for Keith to spin that as a victory for him. Can't happen when all the left-wing councillors are prevented from running 
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Feb 25, 2021 12:01
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peanut- posted:I am really conflicted about the idea of loving up Labour at local elections. That's all true but there's plenty of Labour councils and councillors which are signing massive gentrification property deals with business associates of theirs or attacking traveller communities or being power mad shitheads willing to do anything to climb the ladder into Westminster. Voting for an actually good candidate is fine, it's how the system should work but there's no higher value in supporting Labour in the abstract and given how poor democratic knowledge and participation is in local elections it's that obvious fact that's going to mean a terrible result for them.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:01
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Does anyone know a good place to find out more info on your local council and/or the people who run it? And I'd prefer accurate info as opposed to having to sift through boilerplate "We need to appeal to Labour and business" stuff for the millionth time. Thanks folks.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:10
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peanut- posted:I am really conflicted about the idea of loving up Labour at local elections. I think you've just got to base it on individual councillors, but from my experience labour people in local government tend to be even pettier shits than the people higher up in the party. If you've got someone who is genuinely concerned about improving your local area then vote for them, but if you just vote labour based on party you're just as likely to be voting for some landlord who hates proles with a burning passion.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:12
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Josef bugman posted:Does anyone know a good place to find out more info on your local council and/or the people who run it? Been wondering this myself - where are all you super informed people who can reliably determine which councillors are good or bad getting your info from?
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Feb 25, 2021 12:14
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Maugrim posted:Been wondering this myself - where are all you super informed people who can reliably determine which councillors are good or bad getting your info from? If they're already a councillor then local press might have some articles about what they do or say but otherwise it's a total crapshoot.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:16
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Jose posted:Just a totally worthless nation this country deserved everything it did to itself
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Feb 25, 2021 12:26
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My current (Labour) local council leader blocked me on twitter, so that's how I know I won't be voting for him.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:27
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Got my AstraZeneca this morning. Only person in the waiting room and was in and out in five minutes. My arm aches a little and I have a weird desire to buy a Zune.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:43
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i got my first pfizer on a wednesday evening and i thought i was fine but the side effects hit me like a train that saturday afternoon and lasted for a week and a half lol felt like a zombie and had the strangest headache i've ever experienced despite being an occasional migraine sufferer
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Feb 25, 2021 12:45
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crispix posted:felt like a zombie and had the strangest headache i've ever experienced despite being an occasional migraine sufferer
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