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Abusing the consecutive fight items seems pretty broken. Just got my sixth job and I've nearly mastered 3 jobs for each character.
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LostRook posted:Abusing the consecutive fight items seems pretty broken. Just got my sixth job and I've nearly mastered 3 jobs for each character. It's just making grinding more time efficient. idk why you'd want to grind so much so early tho
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Feb 27, 2021 22:56
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Andrast posted:It's just making grinding more time efficient. I ground out Freelancer on everyone because more JP now now NOW but other then that I'm just rolling along doing whatever. Monk feels nice and meaty right now, and I have plenty of hi potions to pour down someone's throat if I want them to Firebird 4 times in a row. It's nice. Black Mage feels kinda wimpy though at around the desert region? When do I start getting more special moves for everyone? Do I gotta find another crystal? And what do I do with all these dwarves teeth?
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Feb 27, 2021 23:05
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Caidin posted:I ground out Freelancer on everyone because more JP now now NOW but other then that I'm just rolling along doing whatever. Monk feels nice and meaty right now, and I have plenty of hi potions to pour down someone's throat if I want them to Firebird 4 times in a row. It's nice. Black Mage feels kinda wimpy though at around the desert region? Yeah, the special moves seem to unlock for a character when you find another crystal
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Feb 27, 2021 23:06
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Farg posted:i dunno if i'm a fan of the turn order thing but everything else just seems like bravely default as it always was? i'm early on but i'm not seeing any red flags, its fun. also its like a brief intro cutscene and some dialog before you can dig through your settings, it isn't remarkable in that sense at all I get the impression a lot of people really hate the game's aesthetic and that that this is coloring perception of the game in general. I actually like the aesthetic for whatever reason, but it's apparently making some people completely incapable of enjoying anything connected to characters/plot. edit: I like the option to increase battle speed. Grinding isn't so bad when the battles happen so fast, and I haven't tried these lure items that supposedly make things easier.
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Feb 27, 2021 23:07
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Andrast posted:It's just making grinding more time efficient. I'm trying to avoid grinding and the Berserker boss wiped the floor with me. I adjusted my classes and set up and they still wiped the floor with me. I had level up two more times to just have enough HP to survive one physical attack with bard songs up. Once I had that it was still a struggle but prevailed. Holy poo poo I am not touching this game on hard mode.
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Feb 27, 2021 23:07
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Lord Ephraim posted:I'm trying to avoid grinding and the Berserker boss wiped the floor with me. I adjusted my classes and set up and they still wiped the floor with me. I had level up two more times to just have enough HP to survive one physical attack with bard songs up. Once I had that it was still a struggle but prevailed. That boss and the previous one got me turn the game from hard to normal. They loving stomped my rear end on hard. I had to do the slowest kill in the world on that spoilered boss because full defense was the only way I could stay do it safely. It got easier after I realized that you can purge his berserk off him though.
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Feb 27, 2021 23:11
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Ytlaya posted:I get the impression a lot of people really hate the game's aesthetic and that that this is coloring perception of the game in general. I have a poor eye for art all told but it looks like Bravely Default's usual style but shinier to me.
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Feb 27, 2021 23:14
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Is there a way to get more specific info on some of these skills? Like the Monk's thing that does higher damage in exchange for lower hit rate; it would be good to know exactly how much more damage and exactly how much less hit rate.Caidin posted:I have a poor eye for art all told but it looks like Bravely Default's usual style but shinier to me. Some people (most reviewers from what I've seen) think the style looks very bad in higher resolution and that the characters look "dead-eyed." I don't really get it, but it's apparently at least a somewhat common reaction. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Feb 27, 2021 |
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Feb 27, 2021 23:24
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Srice posted:The card game in this rules. I had no idea there was gonna be one and I'm glad it seems mechanically interesting enough to spend time with it. Nobody mentioned a card game. Off to Target with me!
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Feb 27, 2021 23:29
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Srice posted:The card game in this rules. I had no idea there was gonna be one and I'm glad it seems mechanically interesting enough to spend time with it. Is it Gwent?
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Feb 28, 2021 00:34
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Ytlaya posted:Is there a way to get more specific info on some of these skills? Like the Monk's thing that does higher damage in exchange for lower hit rate; it would be good to know exactly how much more damage and exactly how much less hit rate. i think the characters are pretty awful looking compared to BD1, imo. Shiny and plastic and uncanny.
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Feb 28, 2021 00:38
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I'm up to that boss that the reviewer was complaining about earlier in the thread and I think they were right. There is a boss that is immune to all physical damage and can only be damaged by purely elemental attacks. I'm stuck in a long battle of attrition where I'll eventually win because my characters all regenerates MP, but it is going to take awhile. I hope I'm just being a huge idiot here, because this seems like a very poorly designed encounter.
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Feb 28, 2021 00:40
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glassyalabolas posted:Is it Gwent? Nah it's kinda Triple Triad inspired but with a lot of differences for it to be its own thing.
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Feb 28, 2021 00:46
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Ethiser posted:I'm up to that boss that the reviewer was complaining about earlier in the thread and I think they were right. There is a boss that is immune to all physical damage and can only be damaged by purely elemental attacks. I'm stuck in a long battle of attrition where I'll eventually win because my characters all regenerates MP, but it is going to take awhile. I hope I'm just being a huge idiot here, because this seems like a very poorly designed encounter. It's definally a lot like Bravely Default/Second in that boss fights are less about huge slugfests and more about weird traits and gimmicks that can be trivialized with a particular setup. Then you have poo poo like the Gambler where unironically all about luck.
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Feb 28, 2021 00:53
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Lord Ephraim posted:It's definally a lot like Bravely Default/Second in that boss fights are less about huge slugfests and more about weird traits and gimmicks that can be trivialized with a particular setup. Then you have poo poo like the Gambler where unironically all about luck. The game gave me a choice between two areas so I'm wondering if the asterisk I got from this this fight will trivialize the the other boss fight and visa versa.
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Feb 28, 2021 00:58
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Ethiser posted:I'm up to that boss that the reviewer was complaining about earlier in the thread and I think they were right. There is a boss that is immune to all physical damage and can only be damaged by purely elemental attacks. I'm stuck in a long battle of attrition where I'll eventually win because my characters all regenerates MP, but it is going to take awhile. I hope I'm just being a huge idiot here, because this seems like a very poorly designed encounter. elemental magic damage or can you use elemental physical attacks? I know the Vanguard can pop people with earth damage
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Feb 28, 2021 00:59
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grieving for Gandalf posted:elemental magic damage or can you use elemental physical attacks? I know the Vanguard can pop people with earth damage If the attack has a picture of a weapon in its description it did zero damage. The Vanguard's first weak earth elemental attack that delays worked because it uses your shield and just has the earth elemental symbol, The second one they get that actually does good damage did not work because it uses your weapon. The boss seemed to technically be immune to all weapon types.
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Feb 28, 2021 01:07
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Ethiser posted:If the attack has a picture of a weapon in its description it did zero damage. The Vanguard's first weak earth elemental attack that delays worked because it uses your shield and just has the earth elemental symbol, The second one they get that actually does good damage did not work because it uses your weapon. The boss seemed to technically be immune to all weapon types. Most of the bosses at that point of the game have a massive stack of immunities. You can use a monk with fists, or release most types of beasts, these count as non-typed physical damage and ignore the immunities. You can also catch some skeletons from the magic lab, these guys have a terrible hit rate but will do 50% of the target's remaining HP in damage, so throwing a few at bosses at the start will carve off most of their HP.
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Feb 28, 2021 01:15
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is the story truly as uninspired as reviewers made it out to be?
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Feb 28, 2021 02:10
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Started playing and yeah I'm going to echo that forage seems kiiiinda silly. Maybe it falls off later in the game, or maybe later in the game people are able to use it to farm megaelixirs or w/e this game's uber healing items are. I also figured I'd try to cheese that rare spawn on the beach with the old man's help until I examined it and saw the HP, and the 1k damage attacks.  Fuligin posted:i think the characters are pretty awful looking compared to BD1, imo. Shiny and plastic and uncanny. They look fine on my TV so far. I prefer it over characters like Rex and Pyra. 
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Feb 28, 2021 02:41
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re: character models, imo it's the lips and noses that make them kinda uncanny in a way the characters in the first games weren't anyway i'm having an absolute blast. even tho i'm not generally a fan of overworld mobs i think they implemented it thoughtfully, and all the new jobs i've gotten are wonderful so far. just got the (p. sure this was in one of the trailers but spoilering just in case) gambler job which i love the concept of. so stupid and almost universally bad in games they show up in, and yet something i enjoy way too much  also instead of mp they use money which is hilarious
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Feb 28, 2021 03:00
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Are you glad Revo is back on the OST instead of Supercell?
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Feb 28, 2021 03:59
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I'm so glad Revo is back. Music is great so far. The "main" asterisk boss theme is an absolute banger
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Feb 28, 2021 04:01
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Harrow posted:I'm so glad Revo is back. Music is great so far. The "main" asterisk boss theme is an absolute banger  It was a fine theme I was just so completely unprepared
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Feb 28, 2021 04:12
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Also, given the last two games... my body is just waiting for some big, meta, fourth-wall-breaking, post-modern twist, like how the Celestial Realm was the real world.
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Feb 28, 2021 04:18
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I am sorely disappointed thus far by the absence of the rambling party conversations in the bestiary entries.
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Feb 28, 2021 04:32
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Terper posted:When I got to the first Asterisk and was expecting the same theme as from the first demo and it was something different instead, I got such extreme whiplash I thought my neck would crack I was surprised that there are two asterisk themes this time around. They're both good but the one from the original demo is my favorite of the two. Extremely good "get pumped up to kick rear end" music.
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Feb 28, 2021 04:44
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So something to note about the asterisk bosses in this game (or maybe it's the humanoid class of enemy in general?) is that all the very status effects work on them just as well as it works on you! I know some RPGs have a habit of saying it but as i'm writing this i'm fighting Prince Castor and because i went out of my way to use Beast Master and went to that weird mansion place to pick up a bunch of the big wasps and caith sith's in there. Said spoilered boss is currently frozen while poisoned AND paralyzed! Also a battle system note that the auto counters from enemies don't activate as long as the enemy is prevented from moving in some way (frozen,stop, paralysis) and this guy normally reacts to getting hitt with water and fire with a counter. He currently can't do it 
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Feb 28, 2021 05:18
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Farg posted:i dunno if i'm a fan of the turn order thing but everything else just seems like bravely default as it always was? i'm early on but i'm not seeing any red flags, its fun. also its like a brief intro cutscene and some dialog before you can dig through your settings, it isn't remarkable in that sense at all Same, all the posts wailing about how different it is had me worried but aside from the turn order thing (which seems like a really surprising complaint given how hand-holdy showing turn order is) it plays very much the same. I'd much rather have on-field enemies than random encounters, they're ridiculously easy to juke if you don't want to fight them. Is there any other online functionality that shows up later besides the boat quest things? I have to admit it'll be a little disappointing if you can summon someone else's super moves like in the first two games.
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Feb 28, 2021 05:23
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AlphaKeny1 posted:The "fairy flies" thing was really cool tbh and bravely second not having something like that was kind of a letdown, so hopefully this one does. You... did finish Bravely Second, right? The equivalent in that game was super dumb, but then again, so was the rest of the game. PageMaster posted:Where do you get these? That first fight is a horrendously unfun slog where I can't kill them but they can't kill me and I have to reset the game to get out and I'd love to just be past them so I can play the rest of the game. You can buy two types of "damage all enemies" items in the shop in the first town. They pretty much melt the first asterisk bosses. Aside from that, they both have elemental weaknesses so if you examine them and make at least two of your characters black mages you should be able to take them down pretty easily.
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Feb 28, 2021 05:32
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The Shame Boy posted:So something to note about the asterisk bosses in this game (or maybe it's the humanoid class of enemy in general?) is that all the very status effects work on them just as well as it works on you! I know some RPGs have a habit of saying it but as i'm writing this i'm fighting Prince Castor and because i went out of my way to use Beast Master and went to that weird mansion place to pick up a bunch of the big wasps and caith sith's in there. Said spoilered boss is currently frozen while poisoned AND paralyzed! Some major game company’s review claimed you couldn’t hit bosses with status effects and I almost refunded the game (I read the review between boss 1 and buying the game). So I’m really glad this isn’t the case.
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Feb 28, 2021 05:41
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It's not 100% chance or anything but it'll work if you throw enough bees at the problem. Poison in particular can be a bit tricky for it to apply but once it does it stays on for a long time and does probably some kind of percentage of health. The description says "small" but it was ticking for 400-500 of his health every turn. Definitely very useful.
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Feb 28, 2021 05:53
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I totally forgot about the dumb murder mystery substory in BD1. Such a good game. Someone who played the game through should be friends with me because my abilinks are kinda lame right now outside of one absolute unit
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Feb 28, 2021 06:34
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I had no idea this had a Triple Triad equivalent and all my story progress abruptly stopped when it opened up. Screw the crystals, I need to steal MORE cards from children. Am I correct in assuming I need to get to max rank to get the Gambler asterisk? Is it possible to grind it out as soon as you can start playing?
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Feb 28, 2021 08:40
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Ojetor posted:I had no idea this had a Triple Triad equivalent and all my story progress abruptly stopped when it opened up. Screw the crystals, I need to steal MORE cards from children. You just have to beat the people in the casino. It is doable as soon as you unlock the game. It shows who to beat if you track the side quest.
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Feb 28, 2021 11:20
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So while I wait for Best Buy to unfuck their delivery, what's this JP abuse I'm reading about early in the game?
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Feb 28, 2021 13:35
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glassyalabolas posted:So while I wait for Best Buy to unfuck their delivery, what's this JP abuse I'm reading about early in the game? There’s a character in the beginning that can heal/revive your characters an unlimited amount of times. So you can go ahead and just run around the map taking advantage of that and leveling Freelancer. Using stuff like insect bait you can stack up fights. Now Freelancer gets the JP Up skill at level 9 and JP Up and Up at level 12 (mastery). If you stack those abilities together you can get up to x1.7 JP. Then just go ahead and keep grinding it out with the multiple battles and you’ll level up the other job you have at the time (black mage) real quick. You can also use forage constantly in fights with enemies and find a bunch of JP Orbs that help as well. Easier to do this when that other character is in your party, since he attacks too and you don’t have to worry about his health. So you can just leave everyone to forage while getting those multiple fights with bait and get tons of JP orbs and other items too. Like a lot of items.
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Feb 28, 2021 14:37
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Skeezy posted:There’s a character in the beginning that can heal/revive your characters an unlimited amount of times. So you can go ahead and just run around the map taking advantage of that and leveling Freelancer. Using stuff like insect bait you can stack up fights. Lmao I just gave that character back and it didn't even occur to me to do any of that. Ah well. How long will it be before I get another job? I don't know whether to just leave Adelle as a freelancer and level the other three on the jobs the game suggested for the time being.
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Honestly instead of grinding JP a bunch early on it's better to just keep going through the story since you'll be drowning in jobs soon enough.
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