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Jay Rust posted:That pic is clearly just the 1444 start, they just loaded up the game for the first time and took the photo, theyre not real gamers Those absolute bastards. Snivelling prudes.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:04
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Jay Rust posted:That pic is clearly just the 1444 start, they just loaded up the game for the first time and took the photo, theyre not real gamers I mean the 1444 start setup is by far the most historically accurate
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Feb 25, 2021 23:07
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PittTheElder posted:I mean the 1444 start setup is by far the most historically accurate Then again, it would be funny to see them load up a screen where Ryukyu has blanketed western Europe
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Feb 25, 2021 23:13
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You play Europa Universalis? Name every country
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Feb 25, 2021 23:21
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Poil posted:And how do they sometimes get access through third party nations and I don't? This is usually due to the difference between Military Access and Conditional Military Access. Proper Military Access (MA) comes from sending a diplomat to get permission to march your armies through that country. Conditional Military Access (CMA) is automatically granted as long as certain conditions are fulfilled. Liege and Vassal will always have CMA through each other and in a war all war participants will have CMA in every war participant. They will also have CMA through any country that grants MA to any of the participants. You will however not get CMA through a country just because another war participant have CMA through that country. Example: If you are at war with Bohemia and they are in a separate war with Riga and Riga get's MA through Poland, Bohemia will have CMA though Poland but you won't.
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TMMadman posted:Yeah I've definitely learned more history because of Paradox games than I ever did in school just because i'll see something happen and then i'll go look it up to see what actually happened. Same. I only knew about the Thirty Years' War by name before playing EU4. When I encountered it in the game I started reading up on it a little, and oh boy did that explain a lot of things about Europe that they didn't teach in school when I was a kid. I wouldn't say the game itself teaches history or anything, but it's definitely had me looking up historical events that are incredibly fascinating that I'd probably never learn about if I weren't playing.
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skasion posted:...is she playing as Athens im p sure it's Florence pushing from Champagne and collecting in Genoa, improving relations with lucca and fabricating on siena, italian army ("Armata di something"), republic ?? e: 
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Feb 25, 2021 23:38
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The military access map mode is mvp
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Do you get anything out of returning unlawful HRE territory? I've been seeing dummy princes wage bloody years-long wars for a province and then return it two weeks later
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CharlestheHammer posted:You play Europa Universalis? There's Ulm and then there are places that are about to be Ulm.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:50
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Jay Rust posted:Do you get anything out of returning unlawful HRE territory? I've been seeing dummy princes wage bloody years-long wars for a province and then return it two weeks later everyone gets very mad at you if you don't and the province gets big penalties. but i'll keep annexing that garbage
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Feb 26, 2021 00:03
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PittTheElder posted:I mean the 1444 start setup is by far the most historically accurate Bring back 1399 in 5  Although removing the start at any date feature means there will be no more pro Byz strat of starting right after Ottomans get rolled by Timur in 1403
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Jay Rust posted:Do you get anything out of returning unlawful HRE territory? I've been seeing dummy princes wage bloody years-long wars for a province and then return it two weeks later You get a pretty nasty malice for refusing. You can prevent it by starting a new war while coreing the land.
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Feb 26, 2021 00:07
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Yeah but why does the AI fight and annex if its just gonna return it
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Jay Rust posted:Yeah but why does the AI fight and annex if it’s just gonna return it I'd assume the idea is try and hold it but then they start to get some bad relations and decide to give it up to improve them or face getting destroyed.
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Feb 26, 2021 00:27
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Also if the AI annexes two HRE provinces they'll probably only return one.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Also if the AI annexes two HRE provinces they'll probably only return one. I think its certainty rather than probability. As the emperor you get an insurmountable penalty to requesting anyone to return a second province within a few years of the first, even if they were annexed in different wars or whatever.
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TorakFade posted:Can you form Jerusalem then eat and reform France? I don't think either is an end game tag I believe so, yes.
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Alright, won a grueling religious league war against Emperor France, Spain, Commonwealth, Russia, and others, now I'm Protestant Emperor Bohemia, time to pass some refor- Welp At least I got God Tier without using client state cheese e: actually now that I think about it, this should be pretty easy to deal with. Just need to capture Paris to force France to move their capital into the HRE. Wafflecopper fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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Fritz the Horse posted:I believe so, yes. Well now the ruler of austria croaked and I inherited them, and instantly became emperor. Had to fight france for the pu but I had already backstabbed them by using them as an attack dog vs england then stealing all of normandy, so whatever. I think I could still form Jerusalem but that would mean leaving the HRE which I can't do as emperor, maybe when the electors inevitably tell me to gently caress off? Or maybe it is automatic when you form Jerusalem? Not sure it is worth it except for the achievement now though It's not even 1500 and I am emperor of the HRE and overlord of Austria, Hungary (who also inherited croatia), Aragon, Naples, Navarra and Lorraine, no more diplo slots for alliances but who needs them now  let's just hope I can manage to keep liberty desire down until I can finish grabbing southern France because aragon and hungary are almost as strong as me and they don't like it one bit (I am 3rd great power with like 200 dev myself lol)
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Feb 26, 2021 08:46
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Wafflecopper posted:Alright, won a grueling religious league war against Emperor France, Spain, Commonwealth, Russia, and others, now I'm Protestant Emperor Bohemia, time to pass some refor- Im failing horribly at preventing the spread of Protestants and Reformation so Im waiting desperately for the league war to fire as I believe winning that will give me some religious conversion bonuses. Separately Ive been pursuing a administrative/influence ideas group strategy to get the 20% annexation discount policy which I believe stacks with the idea group discount. Is this actually a monarch points efficient way of gaining territory or would I be better of just taking it directly?
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annexing vassals is very good because you're spending diplo points on something that normally requires admin.
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Wafflecopper posted:Alright, won a grueling religious league war against Emperor France, Spain, Commonwealth, Russia, and others, now I'm Protestant Emperor Bohemia, time to pass some refor- You should have the Imperial Ban CB right? Start grabbing provinces and spinning off new Protestant princes.
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Jazerus posted:annexing vassals is very good because you're spending diplo points on something that normally requires admin. Also you can save heaps of AE. ...take a single province that has a core of a dead tag, which has more cores nearby. Release as vassal. Later, do a reconquest war and get those cores returned. Then diploannex. Rinse and repeat.
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PittTheElder posted:You should have the Imperial Ban CB right? Start grabbing provinces and spinning off new Protestant princes. That would still have taken several wars to bring all of France into the HRE. I just no-CBed them and did it in one 
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I'm outside Europe and somehow Brittany is an HRE elector despite the border not being pushed westward anywhere else. How did they manage that?
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Feb 27, 2021 14:19
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm outside Europe and somehow Brittany is an HRE elector despite the border not being pushed westward anywhere else. How did they manage that? Religion fuckery?
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Welp, Charles the Bold finally croaked at age 74 and I got Burgundy under PU. The event to inherit them will fire any day now, it's a MTTH of 180 months (15 years) after you get Burgundy under PU. Unfortunately I'm stuck at Duchy rank in the HRE so I'm not going to have the governing capacity to state much of it. Oh well! I've got Burgundy, Naples, and Aragon PU'd and grabbed Ferrara and Cyprus as vassals just because. Cyprus will be handy for going after the Mamluks. I'm going to wait on forming Jerusalem until I eat Savoy and some more of the HRE. Apparently forming Jerusalem removes you from the HRE so I want to bite off some more of it while I'm still a member. Gobbling France will be slow going, they'll probably end up allying the Ottomans at some point and I'll have some fun wars. Hungary isn't under PU to Austria so at some point I'll grab Hungary too. After the initial war with England I spent most of my manpower and money helping Burgundy fight dumb wars against Austria and company. I put all my effort into propping up Burgundy hoping the Inheritance would fire for me (I looked at the event and it was better than 80% odds with the way things unfolded). I had to restart maybe a dozen times to get a setup where Burgundy would ally me day one and wasn't friendly with Austria.
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Seeing screenshots always makes me sad about how badly the AI Ottomans underperform.
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Confirmation bias since they tend to run rampant in 95% of my games.
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PittTheElder posted:Seeing screenshots always makes me sad about how badly the AI Ottomans underperform. There's really no good mechanic in the game right now to represent how the Ottomans historically conquered basically the entirety of the Mamluks in a year and a half. Most of the games I've played recently the Ottoman-Mamluk borders stay pretty static and sometimes the Mamluks beat them and take parts of Anatolia.
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PittTheElder posted:Seeing screenshots always makes me sad about how badly the AI Ottomans underperform. In my last Naples > Italy game they actually did pretty well, beating up the Mamluks, Hungarians, weak balkan nations and Russia by themselves before I had to stop them for my mission tree
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Jerusalem (and other Crusader States) have a fun mission tree, looks like. edit: in retrospect maybe I should've taken Admin ideas. Not too late, only bought three into Economic. Fritz the Horse fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Feb 27, 2021 |
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These get X% trade power in some node missions are pretty tough! Is there a trick to them besides spam light ships
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Jay Rust posted:These get X% trade power in some node missions are pretty tough! Is there a trick to them besides spam light ships Conquer their CoTs Which missions in particular are the problem? Even a single CoT with decent mercantilism and trade buildings will usually dominate a node.
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Rynoto posted:Conquer their CoTs I suppose conquest would work, I wish the mission gave a CB or something
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PittTheElder posted:Seeing screenshots always makes me sad about how badly the AI Ottomans underperform. Same but the iberians steamrolling the maghreb Also I wouldnt mind some events/missions for certain annexations: ottomans/mamluks, one sheep absorbing the other, Muscovy/Novgorod, the HYW being able to end in one war instead of two
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Same but the iberians steamrolling the maghreb A spectre is haunting Europe, the spectre of Europa Universalis 2
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