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Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

smackfu posted:

We were out hiking today and a couple of small planes flew over us fairly low and on parallel close tracks. I don’t recall seeing that before. Think they were just playing around?



If you look up the time you took the photo, and convert it to UTC, you can look at the playback on https://www.flightradar24.com/ . It's not the most intuitive interface though, and they have to have ADS-B transponders. There's also https://adsbexchange.com , I don't remember which is easier to use

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

PainterofCrap posted:

As FuturePastNow beat me on, part of it was that most anything built in the last sixty years with sufficient thrust has a larger diameter and would drag down the runway, unless they installed shopping-cart wheels or something similarly Wile E. Coyote under the fan casings to prevent unplanned disassembly of the outer units.

Also don't they have warehouses full of spare TF-33s?

There are a small number of bizjet engines that mostly fit the bill.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013


Which crazy scheme to shoot down B-17's was this?

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde

Deptfordx posted:

Which crazy scheme to shoot down B-17's was this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_177_Greif#Variants

quote:

He 177 A-5 Grosszerstörer

Anti-bomber variant based on the He 177 A-5, armed with up to 33 spin-stabilized 21 cm (8¼ in) calibre rockets obliquely mounted in fuselage, replacing bomb bays and auxiliary fuel tanks, and most likely based on components of the 21 cm Nebelwerfer 42 infantry barrage rocket system. Five examples delivered in January 1944 for operational trials. Abandoned due to increasing numbers of Allied air supremacy fighters.

Raikyn
Feb 22, 2011

The small jet I posted earlier was a venom, not a vampire

Avro Anson


avro anson by Marc, on Flickr

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

smackfu posted:

We were out hiking today and a couple of small planes flew over us fairly low and on parallel close tracks. I don’t recall seeing that before. Think they were just playing around?



Probably just local flying club guys

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull



also, the last thing the greif needed was more combustion going on inside the airframe

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

hobbesmaster posted:

I would assume those are all JASSMs or something so it’ll potentially be 1000miles away?

That path leads to solutions that make more sense than using it as an AMRAAM-slinger. Some kind of LO cruise missile, or hypersonic missile, maybe. Something that makes this a better option than just hucking TLAMs from ships.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
Apologies if this has been posted but a movie is in production about the air war in Korea and the first African American navy pilot. I read the book and enjoyed it

They’ve been flying F4U’s out of my little hometown airport and are using flyable MiGs and Skyraiders too

https://deadline.com/2021/02/devotion-jonathan-majors-joe-jonas-story-behind-movie-jesse-brown-1234684266/amp/

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
As long as it isn't as terrible as Red Tails was.

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

https://twitter.com/foone/status/1366519674410733569?s=21

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

Cojawfee posted:

As long as it isn't as terrible as Red Tails was.

The filmmakers say The Right Stuff was a big inspiration so fingers crossed it won’t be terrible

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe




The algorithm lost its little silicon mind over the pressure tube.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Cojawfee posted:

As long as it isn't as terrible as Red Tails was.

I kinda liked Red Tails. Learnt about them from Sabaton.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
The biggest problem with Red Tails was that they sensationalized it too much. You don't have to make Mustangs into X-Wings. Not every pilot has to be the greatest pilot who ever lived, even though every Tuskegee airman had been excessively trained.

The Tuskegee Airmen might be older and less CGI-ey but the cast is fuckin' :discourse: and it tells a way more comprehensive and cohesive story. It doesn't shy away from drama or obscure it behind :swoon: CGI.

You also don't have a scene where a dude gets ventilated by 30mm Minengechoss that don't explode and lives long enough to smugly quip about killing the dude who killed him.

Timmy Age 6
Jul 23, 2011

Lobster says "mrow?"

Ramrod XTreme
Paging Nebakenezzar...

Humanitarian airship seeks world’s most powerful hydrogen fuel cell

Apparently Sergey Brin's airship company wants someone to build them a 1.5 MW hydrogen fuel cell.
Seems a bit ballsy to go "yes, our airship needs more hydrogen components, this has no historical echoes at all."

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Timmy Age 6 posted:

Paging Nebakenezzar...

Humanitarian airship seeks world’s most powerful hydrogen fuel cell

Apparently Sergey Brin's airship company wants someone to build them a 1.5 MW hydrogen fuel cell.
Seems a bit ballsy to go "yes, our airship needs more hydrogen components, this has no historical echoes at all."

Eh, materials science, fire suppression systems and just general design for safety are significantly more advanced then they were in the early 20th century. 100ish years seems reasonable for revisiting an idea.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Especially if the skin isn't painted with a variant of rocket fuel.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
And we could make much better synthetic gas bags.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
And the Hydrogen will most likely be sourced from Natural Gas.....so more fossil fuels....

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

it's also a fuel cell, not a fragile gas bag. the h2 will be stored in nice sturdy tanks.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
An airships is like the only vehicle large and slow enough that putting solar panels on it might make sense.

The arithmetic may not work out on the weight, though.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Fender Anarchist posted:

it's also a fuel cell, not a fragile gas bag. the h2 will be stored in nice sturdy tanks.

With some nice electric stirrer inside?

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
in every way including physical, I am a fragile gas bag

a patagonian cavy
Jan 12, 2009

UUA CVG 230000 KZID /RM TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BENGALS DYNASTY

e.pilot posted:

in every way including physical, I am a fragile gas bag

I knew you were at a 121 carrier but I didn’t know you were a boomer CA

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

a patagonian cavy posted:

I knew you were at a 121 carrier but I didn’t know you were a boomer CA

it might look like I’m doing a walk around, but really I be out there fartin’

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

lol super hornets are huge

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Platystemon posted:

An airships is like the only vehicle large and slow enough that putting solar panels on it might make sense.

The arithmetic may not work out on the weight, though.

Can't you basically print solar panels onto plastic film now? If you don't have that glass layer on the outside I bet they're reasonably light.

Dirt, rain, bird poo poo, etc. are left as an exercise for the reader


Previa_fun posted:

lol super hornets are huge


h e chomk

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous
The Thunderbirds now are gonna get 2-seater F-16's with spines and conformal fuel tanks

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYBf3XPwvaU

This was handled well.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

vessbot posted:

The Thunderbirds now are gonna get 2-seater F-16's with spines and conformal fuel tanks

They've got a few 2-seaters. That's how you get all those celebrity videos.

Technically those jets are supposed to be able to be combat ready in a few hours (minus paint). I guess reinstalling the gun is the biggest task. Hasn't been tested since 1988, though.

Edit: That particular jet (a Block 15 F-16A) went on to Hill AFB, then back to the Thunderbirds, then on to train foreign pilots at Luke AFB until being retired and parked in AMARC since 1996.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Mar 3, 2021

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012


Instant reaction to the situation and nobody was even injured. That's about as good as it gets.

I assume they just had some kind of engine failure. What is the bleeping sound? The helicopter equivalent of a stall horn?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

If DCS Huey is accurate and similar to an R-44 it’s low RPM


Was the helicopter possibly overloaded?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
When the guy got out, it looked like the tail was gone

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Yeah, wow 2:34 :stare:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Cojawfee posted:

When the guy got out, it looked like the tail was gone

Explains why it started slewing to one side.

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017

Sagebrush posted:

Instant reaction to the situation and nobody was even injured. That's about as good as it gets.

I assume they just had some kind of engine failure. What is the bleeping sound? The helicopter equivalent of a stall horn?

I got to ride along an R44 pilot doing auto rotation practice once, I'mon mobile but that looks like an R44 or R22. As I understand it the beeping is the indicator to the pilot that the engine is loading the rotor instead of vice versa, and means that it's time to hit the button that decouples the rotor from the engine by loosening the idler for the belt that couples the engine to the rotor. The pilot could exaggerate a little, but with a recip engine I could totally believe that the time you have to hit that button before an engine failure steals all the energy from your rotors is .25 seconds. The autorotations we went through felt like a normal landing as opposed to the rough one in the video, but the guy I rode with also planned for them to happen.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Cojawfee posted:

When the guy got out, it looked like the tail was gone

I figured that happened when they hit the ground, since the rotor is sitting about 20 feet away from the rest of the helicopter.

If the tail rotor failed in midair that seems like a much bigger deal than an engine failure. Engines are complicated things that do periodically break down, but the tail rotor linkage is just a mechanical shaft.

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

CommieGIR posted:

Explains why it started slewing to one side.

Torque (so, loss of anti-torque) causes this helicopter to turn right.

They turned left to avoid the wires next to the road, and lost the tail boom in the crash

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

vessbot posted:

Torque (so, loss of anti-torque) causes this helicopter to turn right.

They turned left to avoid the wires next to the road, and lost the tail boom in the crash

I knew about the torque, but if they lost it in the crash, where is it?

EDIT: Found the accident report, the main rotor chopped it off when they hit the ground.

http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/01/robinson-r44-ii-n322sh-accident.html

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Mar 3, 2021

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