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Were the side quests in the previous games always this bad with the back and forth? I've played the past games and I honestly can't remember. A lot of me thinks it's just the load times driving me up the wall. Really enjoying this otherwise, the new spins on the equipment system are really good IMO. I remember a lot of doom and gloom during the demo about weight and junk but it seems rather painless to me. Big shoutout to the expedition system giving me lots of large of JP orbs in the past few days. I bypassed a lot of the grinding of freelancer for the 1.7 JP abilities by just playing the game infrequently :>
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Color Printer posted:Is it just me or the equipment optimization feature........not good
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Mar 1, 2021 19:03
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Gyoru posted:Just made it to Chapter 4 with about 25 hours clocked on Hard. I was apprehensive of the story's pacing, but things started to pick up in Chapter 3. Wow some of these look so fun. Excited to unlock some weird combos
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Mar 1, 2021 19:12
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PageMaster posted:What are your early game damage dealers? For bosses it basically comes down to apply poison and survive with me, but after a certain point they can't kill me but I'm hammering out fractions of the poison damage with my other classes. Vanguard does ok thanks to a strong weapon drop, but my monk feels feels incredibly weak, even with the unarmed perks, and my mage/bard is stuck on defense buffs and I feel a little unequipped with no way to buff damage or debuff enemy defense. Monk was definitely my highest damage character for the early game. Make sure you're using double attack boosting accessories, those also get the +80% bonus from the barehanded passive. Default to 3 BP then go hog wild with monk abilities, they all hit real hard. Invigorate > Firebird > Flames of War x2 (if you have a Black Mage that can piggyback off Fire weakness) or just Invigorate > Flying Heel Drop x3, those are usually 3-4k damage. The monk does need to be at or near full health, once they're high enough level they can just brave twice then Pressure Point x2 for almost as much damage with zero health cost.
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Mar 1, 2021 19:36
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Ojetor posted:Monk was definitely my highest damage character for the early game. Make sure you're using double attack boosting accessories, those also get the +80% bonus from the barehanded passive. Holy poo poo I didn't know this  I'm still early on in chapter 1 so I put two Flame Talismans on my Monk Adelle and now she's got like 40 more physical attack than anyone else
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Mar 1, 2021 19:44
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I guess what I would really prefer is an optimize button for a specific equip slot rather than pushing the button and having the game go "gently caress this and gently caress you" and changing my entire loadout to god knows what Also god I wish it was possible to put Default on a button but also give it some sort of confirmation prompt. You can turn on Quick Default to Default with L, but if you do push L, you are loving Defaulting whether you meant to or not
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Mar 1, 2021 19:56
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I feel like a good middle-ground would be a short button hold for Defaulting with the L button.
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Mar 1, 2021 19:57
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I discovered chain battles and it really breaks the job exp curve since I'm at chapter 3 and staring at multiple job classes mastered. Moves like Pressure Point and Godspeed Strike have no business doing so much damage. Thief never has to worry about MP costs much either. Mastering Vanguard gives it a huge attack boost the more aggro gear you put on and its final skill is just another big damage nuke for only costing MP. The only disappointing class is Beastmaster because you have no idea what monster abilities do. I used one ability and it missed, and decided that was it I'm not going around catching everything just for a bunch of attacks that don't do anything. Pick up MP Saver and move on.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:01
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I just wish hitting the instant default backed out a brave. That's how I remember it working in the first game and I keep on trying to do it in this one.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:02
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I assumed that it worked like ff5 and you could only have one monster captured per character, but I guess it's a shared pool and my ten minotaurs are going to be someone's problem soon
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Mar 1, 2021 20:05
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Lord Ephraim posted:The only disappointing class is Beastmaster because you have no idea what monster abilities do. I used one ability and it missed, and decided that was it I'm not going around catching everything just for a bunch of attacks that don't do anything. Pick up MP Saver and move on. I've been able to regularly take out bosses in like 3 hits with monsters. Definitely not a class to sleep on if you like big numbers. Helps that it's very easy to capture monsters once you get the mercy skills.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:30
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Ojetor posted:Monk was definitely my highest damage character for the early game. Make sure you're using double attack boosting accessories, those also get the +80% bonus from the barehanded passive. I've kind of overlooked accessories(except bangles) since I feel like their boosts are pretty inconsequential in most RPGs, so this might be my problem. Time to see what I have in stock!
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Mar 1, 2021 20:32
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Yeah, most accessories have multiple effects and various stat boosts so there are multiple reasons to equip them.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:33
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PageMaster posted:I've kind of overlooked accessories(except bangles) since I feel like their boosts are pretty inconsequential in most RPGs, so this might be my problem. Time to see what I have in stock! IIRC the poison immunity one gives you like +600 hp and is available basically from the word go in the prologue. It's real good for the level and I wound up with a bunch of them.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:47
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DeathSandwich posted:IIRC the poison immunity one gives you like +600 hp and is available basically from the word go in the prologue. It's real good for the level and I wound up with a bunch of them. It also boosts healing. Slap two on a white mage and watch that heal tank go.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:58
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Gyoru posted:
What does the stance look like? I have a friend who's gonna be upset if they make the character hold their weapons with reverse grip. He likes dual wielding in games but hates when they do this. EDIT: You said doublehand meaning two handed. I am bumb. I mean dumb. Lastdancer fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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Mar 1, 2021 21:20
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Relax Or DIE posted:I assumed that it worked like ff5 and you could only have one monster captured per character, but I guess it's a shared pool and my ten minotaurs are going to be someone's problem soon  I stopped for the night after getting bard but I'm pretty sure I know what the next 2 jobs are I'll get (or if they aren't next, soon enough) and a communal catch and release pool for beastmaster instead of the FF5 one and done sounds lovely. A Sometimes Food posted:It also boosts healing. Slap two on a white mage and watch that heal tank go. I stuck one on each character at the start of the game and going from 300 to 900hp helps just a bit.
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Mar 1, 2021 22:09
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Is the Freelancer Special duration based on actual time as opposed to any in-game turn time or action usage? I keep accidentally using it due to heavy joycon drift, then I press + to pause 'cause I need to focus on something else, and a minute or two later realize I've just slowed down the combat, taken no actions, and the special is over.
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Mar 1, 2021 22:15
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Buffs from Special moves last as long as the character's theme tune is playing, so it's based on real time.
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Mar 1, 2021 22:16
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According to the loading screen tip using another Special while the music is playing extends the buff duration.
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Mar 1, 2021 22:19
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Vanguard feeding BP could probably let you keep the buff running indefinitely.
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Mar 1, 2021 22:23
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Evil Fluffy posted:They look fine on my TV so far. I prefer it over characters like Rex and Pyra. Yeah, I have an easy time sort of viewing the character models as abstractions of a sort. I'm also wondering if using English VA might be contributing to perceptions of the party, since they seem just as likable as the BD1 cast so far (with the JP voices, at least - I used the English VAs with BD1 but prefer the JP in this). Elvis/Adelle are cool and the protagonist/Gloria are at least distinct from Tiz/Agnes. PageMaster posted:What's a wiki-wiki and should I bother trying to kill them when they pop up in battle or are they like a metal slime and I can't do anything until later in the game? The only time I've killed a Wiki-Wiki is by spamming fully braved Firaga-Firaga-Firaga-Firaga followed by Beastmaster special (latter probably isn't necessary, but the Wiki-Wiki had only ~15 HP after the nuking and I wanted to make sure I finished it off). I don't think using non-magic attacks can practically kill them early on since they dodge everything. For a while I tried to exploit the Earth weakness using Vanguard, but that never worked. I was underwhelmed at the rewards from it and probably wouldn't bother if I was close to a boss and didn't want to rebuild up a special attack. Ornamented Death posted:Am I just missing something the "will the enemy attack you?" stat? I have Seth as a white mage with white mage appropriate gear and Gloria as a vanguard with vanguard appropriate gear and Seth gets attacked three or four times as often as Gloria. Even when I use abilities that are supposed to make enemies attack Gloria more often, Seth is still my unwilling tank. Elvis as a black mage is also getting attacked more often than Gloria in this scenario, just not at quite the same extreme as Seth. I'm a little confused about this as well. I have like 70 more "chance to be attacked" stat on Seth compared with everyone else, but he doesn't seem to be attacked more than anyone else. It actually seems like my Freelancer Elvis is attacked the most. PageMaster posted:What are your early game damage dealers? For bosses it basically comes down to apply poison and survive with me, but after a certain point they can't kill me but I'm hammering out fractions of the poison damage with my other classes. Vanguard does ok thanks to a strong weapon drop, but my monk feels feels incredibly weak, even with the unarmed perks, and my mage/bard is stuck on defense buffs and I feel a little unequipped with no way to buff damage or debuff enemy defense. Something strange is going on if your Monk feels weak; Monk does dramatically higher damage than everything else in my party currently. It's the only thing I have that hits for over 1000 regularly. grieving for Gandalf posted:Black Mage has been mediocre for me as I near the end of Chapter 1 but Monk's abilities do great damage if you level it up. Firebird, Qipong Wave, and the heeldrop move all do great damage in exchange for health This is my experience as well. BLM does kind of disappointing damage unless I'm hitting a weakness with an -aga spell. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Mar 1, 2021 22:24
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Is there a place in the menu where I can see a list of side quests I've completed?
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Mar 1, 2021 22:39
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Borsche69 posted:Is there a place in the menu where I can see a list of side quests I've completed? I've been looking and haven't found it! I really want to know if I've missed any!
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Mar 1, 2021 22:45
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, I have an easy time sort of viewing the character models as abstractions of a sort. Yeah, I'm super not impressed with Blackmage. I'll probably level it to the point of getting the +mp on attack passive, but it seems kind of meh all in all, even if I get silly and dual wield a Staff with the +magic dagger from the prologue/Chapter 1.
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Mar 1, 2021 22:47
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I’ve found that the only thing that is making magic attacks worth it is maxing Red Mage and using that as your primary job. The second passive you unlock makes you cast each spell twice at no extra MP cost.
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Mar 1, 2021 22:49
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Glad to see Red Mage is finally the powerhouse it deserves to be 
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Mar 1, 2021 22:51
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Red Mage's Magic atk seems pretty poo poo tho
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Mar 1, 2021 22:55
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I've been looking and haven't found it! I really want to know if I've missed any! lol its infuriating! like, you guys realize you're making a jrpg right? do you fully understand the kind of psychos that are going to play this? i mean they gotta since they put in that secret early ending.
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Mar 1, 2021 23:00
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The hellhounds in Wiswald tower have speed buns as a rare steal. Time to indulge in several hours worth of kleptomania while my guests keep my thieving hands alive.
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Mar 1, 2021 23:06
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Caidin posted:The hellhounds in Wiswald tower have speed buns as a rare steal. As do the blue glowy skeleton ponies in the hills near the starting town, if you're having trouble staying alive.
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Mar 1, 2021 23:15
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This bard dude is destroying me. I feel like I just have to grind to stand a chance against his triple brave party wipes.
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Mar 1, 2021 23:19
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Andrast posted:Red Mage's Magic atk seems pretty poo poo tho Casting twice for free probably makes up for that. Then again I'm pretty sure there's a passive from a later job that lets your subjob's second specialty activate at which point Red Mage as a subjob probably becomes the best option.
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Mar 1, 2021 23:25
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stev posted:This bard dude is destroying me. I feel like I just have to grind to stand a chance against his triple brave party wipes. It was the next boss for me. Everyone around level 11-12, and I was getting smoked even on casual difficulty. Wiped 5 times. I appreciate that the bosses make me think for my wins.
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Mar 1, 2021 23:28
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Caidin posted:The hellhounds in Wiswald tower have speed buns as a rare steal. The blue flaming horses in the first map have them as well, but I'm not sure if there's a benefit to going after one vs the other. Edit: beaten!
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Mar 1, 2021 23:50
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By first map do you mean prologue or chapter 1?
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PageMaster posted:The blue flaming horses in the first map have them as well, but I'm not sure if there's a benefit to going after one vs the other. Honestly, probably not worth the effort until quite a bit later. There is a class ability that automatically kills enemies that are 20 levels or more lower than your own. Pairing it with the Gambler rare drop boosts will probably get you the stuff much quicker. The steal rate is so low, and you really need all 4 characters to have the Thief class, Magpie, Rob blind and spam the Thief super to get anything out of it. With enemies at that low level you'll one shot them with the super so the chances of getting the buns aren't so great. I'm intending to do it myself at some point with the Gigantos enemies that drop the critical chance bun, so I've given it some thought. John Wick of Dogs posted:I've been looking and haven't found it! I really want to know if I've missed any! I'm hoping that it's an item you get later or something, because the closest thing right now I've got is checking the key items tab in the item log.
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Harrow posted:Glad to see Red Mage is finally the powerhouse it deserves to be Red Mage was mad powerful in the first game as well, since their passives let them game the BP economy pretty hard.
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Hey, so I never managed to get through Bravely Second and I kinda want to know what happens in it before I play this, does anyone know of any decent Let's Plays for it?
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Schwarzwald posted:Red Mage was mad powerful in the first game as well, since their passives let them game the BP economy pretty hard. Yeah, though their power wasn't in raw numbers. It was in getting everyone their BP revenge passive and then having one person as a Red Mage spam-poisoning your team to fill up their BP. Definitely extremely powerful but not in the "powerful offensive spellcaster" sense they seem capable of in BD2. Red Mage was my preferred BP battery in the first game, I had a blast with that
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