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BetterLekNextTime
Jul 22, 2008

It's all a matter of perspective...
Grimey Drawer
Tilden Junco-1112 on Flickr

Tilden Red-shouldered Hawk pair-0828 on Flickr

Tilden Song Sparrow-1226 on Flickr

Tilden Hermit Thrush-1212 on Flickr

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neckbeard
Jan 25, 2004

Oh Bambi, I cried so hard when those hunters shot your mommy...
Great Horned Owl by Tyler Huestis, on Flickr

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

This weekend I got frustrated by the clarity on the cheap telephoto lens I'm borrowing, so I just placed an order for a Sigma 150-600mm. My descent into madness has well and truly begun.

Hung out with some white-winged crossbills for a while. Also saw some red crossbills scattered about, which led to much confusion as we were trying to count each species.





This isn't a great shot, but this is the first long-tailed duck I've seen in the wild.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

This weekend I got frustrated by the clarity on the cheap telephoto lens I'm borrowing, so I just placed an order for a Sigma 150-600mm. My descent into madness has well and truly begun.

Hung out with some white-winged crossbills for a while. Also saw some red crossbills scattered about, which led to much confusion as we were trying to count each species.





This isn't a great shot, but this is the first long-tailed duck I've seen in the wild.



Not sure which lens you're borrowing but even with the sigma or tamron 150-600mm lenses you'll need to stop down to f/8 or so to get decent clarity IIRC.

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

VelociBacon posted:

Not sure which lens you're borrowing but even with the sigma or tamron 150-600mm lenses you'll need to stop down to f/8 or so to get decent clarity IIRC.

Thanks - I'm borrowing a Tamron 70-300mm f/4-5.6 and yeah I try not to shoot that one more open than f/7.1 unless the light demands it, but the bigger issue is I often have to pull back to 250mm if I want a clear shot. It's not bad at all, but I also want something with more reach because I'm regularly trying to get coastal/river waterfowl from the shore. I'd keep using it if it were my own. Definitely have a tooooooon to learn and I don't want to go gear crazy.

BetterLekNextTime
Jul 22, 2008

It's all a matter of perspective...
Grimey Drawer
Congrats! That should be a great upgrade for you. I've got the Tamron (g2), and will echo Velociraptor's suggestion. I try not to shoot at f/6.3 unless it's so dark that whatever softness I get is not going to be noticeable anyway. I'll usually go f/7.1 or f/8. And keep your shutter speed up with a lens that big. The IS on lenses like that are actually not bad but even so your keeper rate can sometimes feel underwhelming when you are fighting the light (and then sometimes you'll miraculously get some crisp shots hand-held at like 1/30 sec so it's definitely always worth trying). I have much better success rates when it's on a tripod but I'm definitely not going to hike around too much with those unless I know it's going to be a good shot.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

BetterLekNextTime posted:

Congrats! That should be a great upgrade for you. I've got the Tamron (g2), and will echo Velociraptor's suggestion. I try not to shoot at f/6.3 unless it's so dark that whatever softness I get is not going to be noticeable anyway. I'll usually go f/7.1 or f/8. And keep your shutter speed up with a lens that big. The IS on lenses like that are actually not bad but even so your keeper rate can sometimes feel underwhelming when you are fighting the light (and then sometimes you'll miraculously get some crisp shots hand-held at like 1/30 sec so it's definitely always worth trying). I have much better success rates when it's on a tripod but I'm definitely not going to hike around too much with those unless I know it's going to be a good shot.

I have to ask actually, how do you know if you have G1 or G2 of the tamron? I think I have the G1 and recently it's started to do the thing I've seen online where it doesn't do any AF unless you pop it in and out of MF/AF a few times (on the lens). I've been meaning to find where to buy that kit to repair that if anyone here knows about it.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
Is anyone a member of NANPA? I'm the wrong side of the Atlantic to be the primary target for membership but they've started to do a month episode on the Wild and Exposed podcast so I've been hearing a bit from them. Sadly the UK lacks a decent wildlife photography organisation.

BetterLekNextTime
Jul 22, 2008

It's all a matter of perspective...
Grimey Drawer

VelociBacon posted:

I have to ask actually, how do you know if you have G1 or G2 of the tamron? I think I have the G1 and recently it's started to do the thing I've seen online where it doesn't do any AF unless you pop it in and out of MF/AF a few times (on the lens). I've been meaning to find where to buy that kit to repair that if anyone here knows about it.

The G2 has the push-pull zoom lock and the zoom lock switch. The G1 only has the switch.


Pablo Bluth posted:

Is anyone a member of NANPA? I'm the wrong side of the Atlantic to be the primary target for membership but they've started to do a month episode on the Wild and Exposed podcast so I've been hearing a bit from them. Sadly the UK lacks a decent wildlife photography organisation.

I follow them but I'm not a member. If I ever get to the point where I have too much money I'll probably join. They seem like a pretty good org.

General Ledger
Dec 23, 2007

COYI
I have also just ordered the Sigma 150-600 contemporary, it should be here on Wednesday and I'm really looking forward to getting outside at the weekend to try it out.

My other lenses are £1-200 affairs and so it's my first big purchase in the hobby outside of the body.

Is the dock a required purchase?

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

General Ledger posted:

I have also just ordered the Sigma 150-600 contemporary, it should be here on Wednesday and I'm really looking forward to getting outside at the weekend to try it out.

My other lenses are £1-200 affairs and so it's my first big purchase in the hobby outside of the body.

Is the dock a required purchase?

Assuming the dock is just to fine tune back/front focusing, most bodies have this functionality built in and will remember the lens and apply the adjustment when you use it.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
If I remember right the sigma 150-600 got some updates that improved AF but 20-40%. I suppose once you get it you can decide if you feel that speed increase would be worth another for the dock £40-50.

I've had my eye on the sigma 150-600 myself for ages so once you do get it id love a little review.

jarlywarly
Aug 31, 2018

VelociBacon posted:

Assuming the dock is just to fine tune back/front focusing, most bodies have this functionality built in and will remember the lens and apply the adjustment when you use it.

Because it's a 3rd party lens sometimes firmware is changed to fix bugs / solve compatibility issues with newer cameras.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

jarlywarly posted:

Because it's a 3rd party lens sometimes firmware is changed to fix bugs / solve compatibility issues with newer cameras.

Isn't that just a micro usb usually to the pc? Having a dock feels like that just want to squeeze you for more money.

General Ledger
Dec 23, 2007

COYI
I did order the dock but I'll return it if transpires to be unnecessary. I did see on a review video that they advised to assign a non-default IS profile to the custom 1/2 switch which is done via the dock but I'll let you know if that's true or I've misunderstood.

I'm coming off a cheap and cheerful tamron 70-300, the one without IS, it's by all accounts 'quite bad' but for the money it's been a great gateway to telephoto bird and nature stuff. Its actual reasonably good as a macro lens.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
I don't know what IS is like on the Sigma 150-600 but on the Fuji 100-400 it's an absolute godsend and makes you so much more flexible with light and shutter speeds without pushing ISO through the roof or dragging a tripod around everywhere. You're gonna love it.

Jerm324
Aug 3, 2007

Mega Comrade posted:

If I remember right the sigma 150-600 got some updates that improved AF but 20-40%. I suppose once you get it you can decide if you feel that speed increase would be worth another for the dock £40-50.

I've had my eye on the sigma 150-600 myself for ages so once you do get it id love a little review.

I got this lens back in January and I love it. I have it paired with a crap APS-C body (Canon T7i). I have the dock and used it to set the custom settings buttons. I have a couple Sigma lenses so the dock purchase made more sense to me. One thing I noticed so far with mine is when shooting small backyard birds at relatively close range, 5-10 meters, it works very well and is very sharp. When I'm shooting raptors or something in the field at a distance the quality suffers a bit, but not terrible. This could have a lot to do with my body and might not be the lenses fault. Shooting at f/6.3 definitely isn't as sharp as f/7.1 or f/8 as others have said, but at close range like I mentioned above f/6.3 looked fine. Here's some examples:

600mm, 1/1600, f/6.3, ISO800



600mm, 1/1600, f/6.3, ISO800



600mm, 1/4000, f/8, ISO800



600mm, 1/1600, f/8, ISO800



600mm, 1/640, f/8, ISO800



600mm, 1/320, f/6.3, ISO800

General Ledger
Dec 23, 2007

COYI

Jerm324 posted:

I got this lens back in January and I love it. I have it paired with a crap APS-C body (Canon T7i). I have the dock and used it to set the custom settings buttons. I have a couple Sigma lenses so the dock purchase made more sense to me. One thing I noticed so far with mine is when shooting small backyard birds at relatively close range, 5-10 meters, it works very well and is very sharp. When I'm shooting raptors or something in the field at a distance the quality suffers a bit, but not terrible. This could have a lot to do with my body and might not be the lenses fault. Shooting at f/6.3 definitely isn't as sharp as f/7.1 or f/8 as others have said, but at close range like I mentioned above f/6.3 looked fine. Here's some examples:

600mm, 1/1600, f/6.3, ISO800



600mm, 1/1600, f/6.3, ISO800



600mm, 1/4000, f/8, ISO800



600mm, 1/1600, f/8, ISO800



600mm, 1/640, f/8, ISO800



600mm, 1/320, f/6.3, ISO800




Thank you very much for sharing. I'd be really pleased if I could harness similar results on the raptors, I think those look great.

I'm going to be pairing with a Canon M50. I never expected to be buying a lens that cost more than the body when I picked the M50 prior to getting hooked on the hobby - but here I am.

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

Yeah, this lens is pretty sick (Sigma 150-600mm contemporary), very excited to put it through its paces. The lens arrived last night, and I went out for 30 minutes before work and almost immediately nabbed a sharp photo of a white-throated sparrow.

f/9, 1/250


In time, I'll be able to get a printable shot of the jerk buffleheads right out my door that only forage smack in the middle of the river.

General Ledger
Dec 23, 2007

COYI

BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

Yeah, this lens is pretty sick (Sigma 150-600mm contemporary), very excited to put it through its paces. The lens arrived last night, and I went out for 30 minutes before work and almost immediately nabbed a sharp photo of a white-throated sparrow.

f/9, 1/250


In time, I'll be able to get a printable shot of the jerk buffleheads right out my door that only forage smack in the middle of the river.

Awesome mate

my cat is norris
Mar 11, 2010

#onecallcat

the yellow eyebrows on white throated sparrows are always so hilariously stern

General Ledger
Dec 23, 2007

COYI
I got out today as I had the day off as annual leave, and am super happy with the sigma lens. Getting used to the size and weight of it, and how to hold and carry it, but overall very pleased.

Here are a couple from this morning:

Wood Pigeon by Jack R, on Flickr

Heron by Jack R, on Flickr

Little Egret by Jack R, on Flickr

Robin by Jack R, on Flickr

Magpie by Jack R, on Flickr

I actually had a great chance to capture a fox sat in the meadow behind that Robin, but I thought it was a dog shaped pile of sticks; by the time I realised my mistake it bolted.

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

Getting the first signs of spring migration in Massachusetts. First red-winged blackbirds of the season, and the return of the grackles.

They're kinda obnoxious birds, really, but when they land in the right light...

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DorianGravy
Sep 12, 2007

Grackles are great. We had a ton in Austin, and I enjoyed seeing them roaming around and squeaking at the grocery store parking lot.

And nice light on that picture!

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.

DorianGravy posted:

Grackles are great. We had a ton in Austin, and I enjoyed seeing them roaming around and squeaking at the grocery store parking lot.

And nice light on that picture!

gently caress a Grackle. Those poo poo birds are the scourge of Fort Worth.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
Snow's all melted but it got colder again so no signs of all the migratory birds yet. It'll probably be another couple weeks before the first ones start showing up. Still, the locals are hard at work as always:


Woodpecker at work (great spotted woodpecker, to be specific)


Great tit


The duality of nuthatch

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001


This is a cool shot!

I have an irrational love of shots of nuthatches facing into the camera because they look so silly, and I make a point of trying to get them in that pose.

Like this red-breasted blobhatch.

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toggle
Nov 7, 2005


Bush stone curlew.


Territorial superb fariy wren.

seravid
Apr 21, 2010

Let me tell you of the world I used to know

toggle posted:


Territorial superb fariy wren.

Dang what a badass

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Bush Stone Curlews are rad but gently caress the ones in particular that live in front of our house. Their calls are not soothing at 1am.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

This is a cool shot!

I have an irrational love of shots of nuthatches facing into the camera because they look so silly, and I make a point of trying to get them in that pose.

Like this red-breasted blobhatch.



Haha, nice to see that nuthatches are the same everywhere! Pointy at both ends when seen from the side but total goofs from the front :3:

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

seravid posted:

Dang what a badass

Napoleon complex in bird form

Megabound posted:

Bush Stone Curlews are rad but gently caress the ones in particular that live in front of our house. Their calls are not soothing at 1am.

I hear them in the distance all throughout the night, I can only imagine how calming a 1am call outside your window would be.

For those that don't know..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB8T0dV5YNA

EPICAC
Mar 23, 2001

There’s a Yellow-throated Warbler, rare for Massachusetts, at the hotspot near me. It’s been regularly visiting a feeder at an apartment building that backs up to the woods. I managed to spot it yesterday after a few tries.


Yellow-throated Warbler (albilora)


Yellow-throated Warbler (albilora)


Yellow-throated Warbler (albilora)

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

Snack time!



[edit:] vv yep, it's a hooded merganser! and a tasty crayfish, which they eat by orienting it just right and swallowing it whole.

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TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

that's awesome

What bird is that though? Looks kinda like some sea duck or diving duck?

e: hooded merganser?

TheFluff fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Mar 11, 2021

my cat is norris
Mar 11, 2010

#onecallcat

Bufflehead! Male. And they do dive to feed, it's fun to watch!

BetterLekNextTime
Jul 22, 2008

It's all a matter of perspective...
Grimey Drawer

TheFluff posted:

that's awesome

What bird is that though? Looks kinda like some sea duck or diving duck?

e: hooded merganser?

Yup! Similar to the bufflehead with the white on the head but the hooded mergs have a more punk rock hairdo, thinner bill, and the brown on the sides.

my cat is norris
Mar 11, 2010

#onecallcat

BetterLekNextTime posted:

Yup! Similar to the bufflehead with the white on the head but the hooded mergs have a more punk rock hairdo, thinner bill, and the brown on the sides.

Aaaa!! I was so close...

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

Yeah, it's a hoodie, but buffleheads are cool too! Similar feeding behavior. The male buffleheads also have this awesome iridescence on their dark head feathers, along with sharp dark/white contrast, which is making it really tricky for me to get a good shot of them as an inexperienced photographer. There's a resident group near me, but they're skittish and stay away from the shore of the river, so even though I see them about half the time I'm out and get great looks through binoculars, I've never had a day where I can get a clear and properly exposed photo in good light. This is my best attempt so far:

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Jerm324
Aug 3, 2007
A flock of Cedar Waxwings hung around my workplace for about a week eating every single little berry off the bushes in the parking lot. They've since moved on but I took my camera to work one day and they put on a show for me.









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