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I understand that CA has made two entire games based on the Sengoku Jidai period
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I saw 160 new posts and thought a beastmen trailer had dropped but instead we're arguing about Fantasy Samurai like some TWCenter screed.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 00:53 |
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It is kinda weird to suggest that the japanese or whoever else would flock to the game if only their expy was in. It’s not like Bretonnia is disproportionately popular in France or danes all love chaos and Norsca.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 00:54 |
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Beastmen are never getting an update. We’ll all be playing Warhammer: Total War VIII in pristine VR after the thirteenth Skaven DLC and they’ll still have the lovely Waagh mechanic and the the worst unit roster in the game.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 00:56 |
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Terrible Opinions posted:Australians have no culture. Point still stands. Good name/post combo, you son of a bitch! We gave you lamingtons, vegemite and flat-white coffees at smoko. Is this how you repay us, denying us a fantasy race? Strewth, as soon as my dole cheque comes in I am going to have a barney with CA. I am ready for a monster bun-fight but it'll be worth it.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 00:58 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It is kinda weird to suggest that the japanese or whoever else would flock to the game if only their expy was in. It’s not like Bretonnia is disproportionately popular in France or danes all love chaos and Norsca. Oui?
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:01 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It is kinda weird to suggest that the japanese or whoever else would flock to the game if only their expy was in. It’s not like Bretonnia is disproportionately popular in France or danes all love chaos and Norsca. I don't think they would flock to it, but I do think they largely think it was cool.
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A Perfect Twist posted:Good name/post combo, you son of a bitch! We gave you lamingtons, vegemite and flat-white coffees at smoko. Is this how you repay us, denying us a fantasy race? Your greatest contribution is the Halal Snack Pack
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:04 |
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A Perfect Twist posted:Good name/post combo, you son of a bitch! We gave you lamingtons, vegemite and flat-white coffees at smoko. Is this how you repay us, denying us a fantasy race?
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:04 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Your greatest contribution is the Halal Snack Pack You watch out, a New Zealander will be here momentarily to claim they invented it first.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:06 |
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Not sure what all the worry is about, CA have proven for years they are perfectly capable of presenting non white/western cultures very tastefully and respectfully while also paying the rule of cool it's due. I'm confident they would handle Nippon/not Japan very well. GW too, for that matter, have gotten much better. The IP is no longer solely directed by some northern British nerds in the 1980s.
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A Perfect Twist posted:Good name/post combo, you son of a bitch! We gave you lamingtons, vegemite and flat-white coffees at smoko. Is this how you repay us, denying us a fantasy race? All these things came from New Zealand you ingrate
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A Perfect Twist posted:You watch out, a New Zealander will be here momentarily to claim they invented it first. gently caress
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:15 |
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Add everything to this game that causes westerners to squirm with uncertainty. Add more cultures. Let CA do them proper.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:16 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It is kinda weird to suggest that the japanese or whoever else would flock to the game if only their expy was in. It’s not like Bretonnia is disproportionately popular in France or danes all love chaos and Norsca. I'm not sure if those comparisons work all that well, the French fanbase don't care about Brets because the Brets never paid deep respect or give a cool perspective of medieval French culture and mythology, its a blatant satire that's mocking weirdo French knights and is more concerned with drawing from Monty Python than French mythos. Nippon made today would be completely different, it would be westerners attempting to draw inspiration from really cool Japanese history and folklore and offer their own twist on it while obviously trying to be respectful. Japanese, as would anyone else, would be really excited to see how they pan out especially if they already like the series. Getting perspectives and twists from very different parts of the world is really drat cool and would absolutely get their attention imo.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:29 |
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I mean if you are french, you have all these other cultures right next door that you were raised with that are also in this game.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:31 |
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Ireland is right next to britain and the only inclusion of anything Irish at all is the Fimir, the former rape monsters.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:44 |
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Aren't wood elves pretty much Irish?
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:57 |
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Seams posted:Beastmen are never getting an update. We’ll all be playing Warhammer: Total War VIII in pristine VR after the thirteenth Skaven DLC and they’ll still have the lovely Waagh mechanic and the the worst unit roster in the game.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:58 |
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Sinteres posted:Aren't wood elves pretty much Irish? There's Albion, which is filled with woad-painted naked Celts and ugly one-eyed turtle scorpion people (Fimir)
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 02:29 |
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Well, the word Albion traditionally refers specifically to the island of Britain. Sinteres posted:Aren't wood elves pretty much Irish? I guess they have a celtic sort of look but I feel like they are more Shakespeare fairy elves than anything else.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 02:33 |
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Sinteres posted:Aren't wood elves pretty much Irish? theyre scottish
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 02:51 |
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man after 5700 hours in wh2 its time for me to take a break gently caress i doubt ill last 2 weeks this poo poo is CRACK
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:00 |
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Ammanas posted:man What the gently caress I thought I was crazy at 2.7k hours
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:03 |
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Ammanas posted:man That's 19% of the time since the game was released
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:19 |
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BillBear posted:Not sure what all the worry is about, CA have proven for years they are perfectly capable of presenting non white/western cultures very tastefully and respectfully while also paying the rule of cool it's due. I'm confident they would handle Nippon/not Japan very well. There's no worry. Just myself and another poster dared to say "they should change everything in that region" (And I have all faith they will) and a bunch of goons decided to argue against the concept that racist depictions may be bad? Because... again I don't fully get it. It seems they ultimately agree that everything about GW's Nippon is racist, but they really really really wanted to argue that the name is fine and should stay! Lizardmen and Brets are racist so Nippon can't be racist / its okay if they are?? SA likes to pretend its more progressive than lots of other internet groups but this thread has been awfully CHUDy lately. Yes, GW have gotten much better. I myself talked about that just a couple pages ago. But nobody wants to have a conversation they just want to shout down and dogpile.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:21 |
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This mfer thinks he's Vlad when he's actually Manny
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:34 |
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The originating post for the argument was flatly that there should not be fantasy Japan or Indian factions in the game.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:39 |
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As a cspam leftist poster, lol
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:43 |
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Cardboard Fox posted:This conversation has been interesting to read, but I just can't get over this magic sword called Toyota. This whole thing reads like a parody. What the hell was GW thinking when they came up with that? Haha yeah that is wild, very wild. Truly insane. And holy poo poo Zaphod, literally no-one wants racist caricatures from the 80's. They just want a cool thematic fantasy Japanese faction, among others. You've been incredibly annoying making GBS threads up the thread calling literally anyone who doesn't fully agree with you a racist and now Chuds as well. Lay it off.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:44 |
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Zaphod posts exactly the same whether he's arguing about perceived racism or someone calling a game he likes "overrated."
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 03:47 |
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Gejnor posted:And holy poo poo Zaphod, literally no-one wants racist caricatures from the 80's. They just want a cool thematic fantasy Japanese faction, among others. I tried to make a concession and meet in the middle and move on. Zaphod42 posted:Yeah but at this point we've moved to "Okay, all the LL lord names are racist, the culture is a caricature, the name of the religion is racist, and the unit types are racist, but lets keep the name" And several goons agreed. And... other goons keep arguing the details. Don't get mad at me because the whole thread decided to argue about it. We agree that everything about the old 80s Nippon has to go, and a new faction in Japan would be cool. That's all that was said in the first place. As usual, I keep trying to drop this and people keep arguing the point and then everybody blames me and acts like I'm the sole instigator. Not remotely reasonable. If the thread really doesn't want that, why are so many fighting? Not everybody is arguing this in good faith like you may be. If the thread doesn't want me to talk about this, stop making bad-faith arguments calling me out by name! Seriously. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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Seams posted:Beastmen are never getting an update. We’ll all be playing Warhammer: Total War VIII in pristine VR after the thirteenth Skaven DLC and they’ll still have the lovely Waagh mechanic and the the worst unit roster in the game. Beastmen got the only update they need in SFO
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 04:09 |
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Using the word Japan is bad since the japanese people do not use that word but instead use Nippon and Nihon. Japan is a very imperial and western word forced upon an entire group of people.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 04:10 |
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Kazzah posted:That's 19% of the time since the game was released should have hit 25%. disappointed in myself
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 04:17 |
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Terrible Opinions posted:Australians have no culture. Point still stands. I totally get the joke here, but straight up the original custodians of Australia have one of the oldest cultures in history, with actual oral records going back for thousands of years, the European settlers/invaders decided they didn’t have a culture at all and weren’t really a nation because they didn’t have anything said Europeans recognised as culture. In comparison the New Zealand Maori got a treaty because they had a king and a culture that was observably similar to that of the European settlers/invaders. It would be hard as hell but a Dreamtime based culture for an Australian expy would be incredible.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 04:26 |
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I think in the end what I really hope for is a dude with a katana fighting a hind-legs walking crocodile that's using arcane power fists while in the background an angry t-rex is being mauled and electrocuted by a Nue.Lord_Magmar posted:I totally get the joke here, but straight up the original custodians of Australia have one of the oldest cultures in history, with actual oral records going back for thousands of years, the European settlers/invaders decided they didnt have a culture at all and werent really a nation because they didnt have anything said Europeans recognised as culture. That would be pretty great but man I feel like "hard as hell" is an understatement. But yeah I used to devour dreamtime story books when I was a kid, and any time someone tells me the Lizardmen have goofy names I always remember the story of Tiddalik the frog who drank all the water.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 04:39 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:I totally get the joke here, but straight up the original custodians of Australia have one of the oldest cultures in history, with actual oral records going back for thousands of years, the European settlers/invaders decided they didn’t have a culture at all and weren’t really a nation because they didn’t have anything said Europeans recognised as culture.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 04:43 |
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That is my dream game where they keep adding cultures and mythos of cultures. That is kinda what makes dominions so good and I want to see that in a total war game.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 04:51 |
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Gotta say folks, there is just something cathartic about running a goonsquad of rear end in a top hat frenchmen and their incredibly pissed off Damoiselle de Guerre all up and down the desert knocking over skeleton people's houses and taking all their stuff It's a good kinda vibe, y'all should try it
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