|
Grim Up North posted:The dude that was posted earlier released a longer walk-around the Ioniq 5: For some reason it looks a lot better to me in these stalker videos than any of the official media I've seen. Definitely going to be following this thing closely.
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 19:46
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 19:29 |
|
|
KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:they're gonna open more stores and the vast majority of EVs are sold in the markets they're in Seattle is a huge market for EVs, so I'm surprised it wasn't in their opening salvo. Regardless, they just announced the new locations they're opening this year. https://apnews.com/press-release/pr...4edc32f76c61e1c
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 20:38
|
|
|
What, no Des Moines?
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:01
|
|
|
bird with big dick posted:What, no Des Moines? If you can make it to Minneapolis, should be only 1 charging stop on the way back (~244 miles, car's range is listed as 233). Only a few choices for fast chargers on I35 though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:19
|
|
|
Polestar is in Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto in Canada, I wonder what the split on interest is.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:20
|
|
|
priznat posted:It's really nice. I'm surprised I have heard nothing about a Kia equivalent, are they going to lag behind a bit? Oh I forgot to reply to this, what I've seen written on another forum is there is something codenamed the Kia CV that is to be announced this month? https://insideevs.com/news/486851/kia-cv-500-km-range-3-seconds/
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:34
|
|
|
Charles posted:Oh I forgot to reply to this, what I've seen written on another forum is there is something codenamed the Kia CV that is to be announced this month? Jesus 0-100 in 3 sec in a Kia  Shut up and take my money!! 
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:37
|
|
|
Why don’t they put that drivetrain in the Ioniq 5
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:42
|
|
|
I thought the kia wasn't supposed to be officially revealed until the LA auto show? Though that was apparently moved after they said that
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:48
|
|
|
bird with big dick posted:Why don’t they put that drivetrain in the Ioniq 5 I think it's supposed to be more of a halo car like the K900, but I dunno. I don't feel like watching the 55 minute YouTube Kia Investor Day video. gwrtheyrn posted:I thought the kia wasn't supposed to be officially revealed until the LA auto show? Though that was apparently moved after they said that I guess it's somewhere in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y6VDIg_WrY I'm not inclined to believe claims until I see some proof though, even from a big name like Kia :P
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:55
|
|
|
Charles posted:I guess it's somewhere in this video. It's at 22:23 or so
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 21:59
|
|
|
That ioniq 5 is a great looking car. Maybe not that wild about the interior but the outside is great.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 22:49
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zzpsn_D9HA Doug DeMuro got his hands on an ID4. The infotainment screen is a mess. Slow, REAL slow, requires extra steps to do things like adjust climate control or turn on the heated seats. Hopefully this is something can fix.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 23:22
|
|
|
bird with big dick posted:Why don’t they put that drivetrain in the Ioniq 5 Edit: woah, Tellurides are also selling very well. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Mar 3, 2021 |
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 23:42
|
|
|
Phuzun posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zzpsn_D9HA I watched that video. In it, he mentions that VW has the ID.4 positioned to compete against small gasoline crossovers like the RAV4 and CRV. With the RWD having 201hp and 228 ft-lb of torque, I can’t imagine the front motor that adds 100hp is going to add much torque to speed it up a lot. Between that and the fiddly infotainment, my interest in the ID.4 is dwindling rapidly.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 23:46
|
|
|
Orvin posted:With the RWD having 201hp and 228 ft-lb of torque, I can’t imagine the front motor that adds 100hp is going to add much torque to speed it up a lot. Factory numbers say 0-62 will go from 8.5 to 5.8.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 23:49
|
|
|
CannonFodder posted:Did Hyundai get anything like the Kia Stinger? Maybe they are going to market the Kia brand as more of a performance line, which of course doesn't really work when their big sellers are Soul and Sportage. I think Kia is supposed to be the more sporty, youthful division. Genesis G70 is the platform mate of the Stinger.
|
|
#
?
Mar 2, 2021 23:55
|
|
|
Ola posted:Factory numbers say 0-62 will go from 8.5 to 5.8. 5.8 is the same as a Ferrari Daytona lolol
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 00:01
|
|
|
Orvin posted:I watched that video. In it, he mentions that VW has the ID.4 positioned to compete against small gasoline crossovers like the RAV4 and CRV. Yeah, he mentions targeting those vehicles but really, it is competing with base Mach-E if they are serious about getting an EV. Hopefully Bjorn gets one and does his tests on it. And hopefully the screen responsiveness can be fixed, good to have competition at those prices. Bjorn got a quick test in the Audi E-Tron GT RS. Seems very much to be the Audi equivalent to the Taycan. He mentions that Audi will be getting him another press car for testing later, he suspects it will be pretty close to the same since it has the the drivetrain minus 10kw of power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7hgZYOUL8M
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 01:58
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDDRu1nlbV4
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 02:26
|
|
|
Orvin posted:I watched that video. In it, he mentions that VW has the ID.4 positioned to compete against small gasoline crossovers like the RAV4 and CRV. Yeah, I'm probably cancelling. Funny because I just got an email saying mine left the factory today
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 02:30
|
|
|
Orvin posted:I watched that video. In it, he mentions that VW has the ID.4 positioned to compete against small gasoline crossovers like the RAV4 and CRV. The base ID.4 hits 60 in the mid 7s which is perfectly fine for a CUV and right in line with the gasoline RAV4 and CRV. From basically the very beginning they’ve been pretty clear that performance is not a priority.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 02:35
|
|
|
YOLOsubmarine posted:The base ID.4 hits 60 in the mid 7s which is perfectly fine for a CUV and right in line with the gasoline RAV4 and CRV. From basically the very beginning they’ve been pretty clear that performance is not a priority. I just don’t think it sunk in that the torque numbers were going to be so low to middling. I was expecting numbers like that out of the Bolt, a smaller vehicle. And I was kinda unimpressed when the salesman sitting next to me was trying to play up how quick the bolt was. I can only imagine how slow the RWD ID.4 is going to feel, being bigger and quite a bit heavier. Sure the AWD ID.4 will be faster, but I guess I was hoping for faster than it is going to end up being. Kinda makes sense for the price point though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 03:29
|
|
|
borkencode posted:https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1366806767146008580?s=20 Good, they deserve it 100x over
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 03:51
|
|
|
YOLOsubmarine posted:The base ID.4 hits 60 in the mid 7s which is perfectly fine for a CUV and right in line with the gasoline RAV4 and CRV. From basically the very beginning they’ve been pretty clear that performance is not a priority. But then unless the only reason was wanting an electric, why would anyone get ID4 vs those? I just can't get excited about 'perfectly fine' numbers. The last few days have been exciting for new EV news, and the ID4 just doesn't excite. And the slow infotainment is embarrassing for such a new vehicle.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 04:04
|
|
|
DoomTrainPhD posted:That's not a supposedly Can you share how many preorders Rivian has? I need a pickup truck in the near future and don't want to go back to an ice car but it looks inevitable.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 04:40
|
|
|
Franco Caution posted:But then unless the only reason was wanting an electric, why would anyone get ID4 vs those? You live in California, which means that you get to stack federal and state tax credits for a very cheap lease, and it comes with an HOV lane pass.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 04:46
|
|
|
Shamino posted:Can you share how many preorders Rivian has? I need a pickup truck in the near future and don't want to go back to an ice car but it looks inevitable. If we're making requests, can you tell the people who design illumination that I'm a freak and can see the LEDs turning on and off and stuff like the RAV4 headlights are a nightmare for me. Haha.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 04:48
|
|
|
Charles posted:If we're making requests, can you tell the people who design illumination that I'm a freak and can see the LEDs turning on and off and stuff like the RAV4 headlights are a nightmare for me. Haha. Sorry, PWM frequency and other associated power things are dictated by the OEM so you'll have to yell at them first
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 04:59
|
|
|
Franco Caution posted:But then unless the only reason was wanting an electric, why would anyone get ID4 vs those? Because they want an EV version of those cars and with the federal tax credit it’s going to be the cheapest way to get that. The people who are already buying CRVs and RAV4s don’t care about straight line performance, so why should they care when looking at EVs? Is that really the only reason you can think of that someone might prefer and EV over an ICE equivalent?
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 05:01
|
|
|
YOLOsubmarine posted:Because they want an EV version of those cars and with the federal tax credit it’s going to be the cheapest way to get that. The people who are already buying CRVs and RAV4s don’t care about straight line performance, so why should they care when looking at EVs? Is that really the only reason you can think of that someone might prefer and EV over an ICE equivalent? Yes, there are a lot of people out there who want to cut down on their fossil fuel usage. The ID3&4 seem to be designed for mainstream appeal and it seems good for that.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 05:03
|
|
|
Jymmybob posted:Sorry, PWM frequency and other associated power things are dictated by the OEM so you'll have to yell at them first It should be a nhtsa rule
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 05:08
|
|
|
Charles posted:Yes, there are a lot of people out there who want to cut down on their fossil fuel usage. The ID3&4 seem to be designed for mainstream appeal and it seems good for that. We have an iD.4 on pre-order to replace my fiancé’s CX-5. She doesn’t care about performance at all, she just wants it to be comfortable, big enough, not terribly expensive, and have a reasonable level of amenities. She wants an EV for environmental reasons and also for the convenience of home charging and lower fuel and maintenance costs. Basically to be a normal rear end car, but easier to live with. The ID.4 is the first thing coming out that ticks all of those boxes and I’m sure there are plenty of other people out there in the same boat.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 05:13
|
|
|
I bought my Leaf soley on the consideration of its lightning fast acceleration.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 05:31
|
|
|
I just kind of assumed everyone here raced for pink slips on the reg.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 06:08
|
|
|
Maybe I wish they had just done different versions of the ID4 so they could steal some sales away from each demographic. They already committed to making the perfectly fine version YOLOsubmarine mentioned, so mark that one as done. Next make the dual engine AWD one that covers those who want a bit more. Done. And then finally make a R Design one that goes quick for those people who do want EVs but also don't want it to just be perfectly fine. Then you have a version to compete with all the Model Y flavors. And then when someone says they like it, but wish it did X better, Boom! Done! It's either out, or will be soon.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 07:21
|
|
|
Franco Caution posted:But then unless the only reason was wanting an electric, why would anyone get ID4 vs those? Speaking for myself having an ID4 on order right now... we've had a PHEV (Passat GTE) for a couple of years and have managed to mostly run that one on electric. It's nice and quiet, you don't need to go to gas stations, and if you have charging options at home you always start the day off with a "full tank". The environmental aspect of it is nice too. And honestly, I think the second hand market for fossil fuel vehicles here in Sweden will crater within a not too distant future so I would not want to sink money into a new one today. The ID4 simply appears to do everything I need "well enough". It's not Tesla quick but no slouch. It holds a ton of poo poo. All the kids fit in it nicely. I can haul my small trailer and throw my kayak on top as well. Range is enough that I will have to charge elsewhere maybe twice a year. So unless the reason was cost alone, why would I NOT get this car vs the fossil fuel equivalents? As for the infotainment, he likely drove a car with the 2.0 or older software. It's pretty bad. _Allegedly_ the 2.1 release coming out in the next few weeks will be a vast improvement (it's getting installed in ID3s here starting next week and all the ID4s will have it before the customers get the cars). I think VW better deliver the goods on this one or we'll see some order cancellations. Not sure if VW failed to mention the software version and planned update or if Doug neglected to mention it; several other reviewers have specifically stated that they were on 2.0 still and the next release should make a big difference.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 07:35
|
|
|
Elviscat posted:I bought my Leaf soley on the consideration of its lightning fast acceleration. There used to be forums for Prius drivers to brag about their 0-5 acceleration
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 07:42
|
|
|
CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:There used to be forums for Prius drivers to brag about their 0-5 acceleration My Leaf is the quicker of my two full size vehicles to 60 MPH. My motorcycle is, uh, a little quicker.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 07:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 19:29 |
|
|
Franco Caution posted:Maybe I wish they had just done different versions of the ID4 so they could steal some sales away from each demographic. It's coming, but supply on lithium batteries is still constrained as I understand it. Otherwise automakers have vowed to make dozens of models by 2025, 2030, etc. My EV with glass and visibility like a RWD Volvo wagon / first gen Forester will hopefully come soon. CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:There used to be forums for Prius drivers to brag about their 0-5 acceleration I did drive the Subaru the other day to wash the salt off it and realized I got used to the instant torque from an EV.
|
|
#
?
Mar 3, 2021 07:58
|
|