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BFC posted:I'm sorry if you don't think giant korra doing an f10 is rad we can't be friends It wasnt an F10 it was an F5!!!! The F10 has more spin at the beginning!! I will NOT tolerate  disrespect ITT
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Mar 3, 2021 04:47
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Junpei Hyde posted:It wasnt an F10 it was an F5!!!! The F10 has more spin at the beginning!!
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Mar 3, 2021 04:56
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BFC posted:The third season is about anarchists who say literally nothing by correct summations of the world built so far. Part of their plan is to kill a (textually) abusive monarch and blow up a wall separating social classes. But then the boys are revealed to have no idea what anarchism is and have the baddies leave the oppressed people their own devices(to which they immediately start burning down their own houses) and screech about how "chaos is the natural order of things" like a loving toddler. Oh yeah, they literally assassinated a tyrant head of state and it's portrayed as a bad thing  Yeah the politics of Korra are absolutely painfully centrist, I think that's one of the reasons it never really resonated with me.
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Mar 3, 2021 04:56
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BFC posted:She spins twice gently caress youre right is a korra stan confirmed
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Mar 3, 2021 05:00
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Dias posted:yeah, but unfortunately no one cared about any nuance because it immediately put people to sleep, as cold-rear end takes usually do er. to be clear, his gangster movies are very clearly and openly indictments of the lifestyle. i think it would be really weird to walk away from goodfellas thinking henry hill is anything but a vile narcissist and that being in the mafia is signing on for a lifetime of terror in exchange for shallow camaraderie because that's what the narrative drove home hard as the point. the opulence is part of the point: no one would join these gangs if they were constantly and consistently horrible. the perks, "friends" and money, are a draw only to the worst of the worst
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Mar 3, 2021 05:05
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Attack on Titan is clearly anti-fascist and any claim that it's message might be muddied are tumblr inspired contrarians. Goodfellas thinks gangsters are cool. Please separate these opinions by a few more pages.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:10
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I never thought I'd see unironic 'goodfellas/the irishman is about how cool the mob is'...
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Mar 3, 2021 05:12
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I'm being tongue-in-cheek, I just don't find movies about the mob very compelling, especially when Scorcese did a bunch of them already.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:15
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Terrible Opinions posted:
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Mar 3, 2021 05:17
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Mar 3, 2021 05:25
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Mar 3, 2021 05:25
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tbf my father really liked scorcese movies because he liked the powerful men taking control of their destiny parts and tended to either ignore the comeuppance parts or just stop watching once it got to them. And if he did ever talk about the latter bits it was from the perspective that the main guys hosed up their own lives and had a sweet deal going before. I like Scorcese a lot and Goodfellas is a masterpiece but I can never escape the itchy feeling that what I am enjoying contributed to some extremely toxically masculine behaviors and standards simply due to how stylishly and effectively the guy photographed his movies.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:25
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BFC posted:tbf my father really liked scorcese movies because he liked the powerful men taking control of their destiny parts and tended to either ignore the comeuppance parts or just stop watching once it got to them. And if he did ever talk about the latter bits it was from the perspective that the main guys hosed up their own lives and had a sweet deal going before. I mean, the mob was portrayed in a lot of places as the "cool white criminals", the ones with a code and etiquette and poo poo. I don't think Scorcese endorses the lifestyle, but it's one of those things like missing the point on AoT, some people just see what they wanna see.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:30
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sexpig by night posted:I never thought I'd see unironic 'goodfellas/the irishman is about how cool the mob is'... Have you not met a lot of people who watched Goodfellas. People are amazingly good at mental gymnastics over single good/cool scenes, especially when it comes to crime movies. "DUDE TONY MONTANA WAS SO COOL HELL YEAH BLAZE OF GLORY" *Dies a pathetic wreck to a man wearing sunglasses indoors at night, with nothing good and nobody left in his life, after murdering his best friend over his own sisterfucker complex flaring up and nearly murdered by said sister until she's blown away in front of him while the scant few dudes still loyal to him get killed* Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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Mar 3, 2021 05:31
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 You just can't save people from themselves. Chase that direction far enough and it's like that one indie game that blur censored the villain's face so no one would find him hot.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:37
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Yardbomb posted:Have you not met a lot of people who watched Goodfellas. People are amazingly good at mental gymnastics over single good/cool scenes, especially when it comes to crime movies. Look at Tony Soprano and how many think he’s this take charge alpha male captain of industry type (in his own words) when he ends the series with very few allies and a life of constantly looking over his shoulder and also probably dead. He’s like a Jersey Rick Sanchez for people missing the point. David Chase does everything he can to show you how awful Tony is and how even his success is only material and brings him little comfort but they just see the McMansion and Tony being ‘tough.’
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Mar 3, 2021 05:39
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^^^ at the end of the sopranos, melfi has the open realization that she has been attempting unsuccessfully to heal a sociopath. goodfellas ends with henry hill addressing the camera directly about how much his life sucks now that he has to suffer repercussions for his actions. honestly, much of the messaging of mob movies is not subtle. i believe that the through line of this discussion all day has been that it's the responsibility of the audience to interpret and intuit the artists intentions correctly. as an aside: i dont necessarily agree with that personally. like all things there is a push and a push from both audience and creator, but i appreciate a director that has enough faith in its audience to create movies with themes and ideas that are more complex than a lighthearted popcorn flick would necessitate. taking a risk to create something that can be interpreted is what i desire so much in a movie lol
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Mar 3, 2021 05:42
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muscles like this! posted:This is really good, don't sleep on it. It gets bonus points for instrumental version of "Seven Swans" as background music.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:50
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People romanticize the hell out of organized crime. Be it the mafia or the yakuza, there are a poo poo ton of people who will argue to the death about how awesome, honorable and cool they are as if the harm they do is acceptable because they also do the occasional not awful thing, often for financial reasons. And it's not really helped by decades of films that portray them as cool, strong and quirky dudes that, often, just get hosed over by other people or by getting too big and cool for the system. And when a film does go out of its way, it's rarely ever the self brought upon downfall people remember but the cool crime guys doing cool crime things because people are really, really good at just forgetting the inconvenient details about media they consume. You could literally make a movie about a bad man doing bad things but people will tell themselves it was a good story about a good guy who just got hosed over by someone else if he wore a nice clean suit and spoke with a stereotypical accent. This same luxury is pretty much never afforded to, say, inner city crime or black criminals no matter what good they might also do, or what harm they might or might do. Media pretty much constantly portrays them as violent and irredeemable and people tend to go out of their ways to forget any sympathetic or humanizing elements of those stories in a complete inverse of the treatments that the former sorts of crime boy story.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:50
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Dawgstar posted:Look at Tony Soprano and how many think he’s this take charge alpha male captain of industry type (in his own words) when he ends the series with very few allies and a life of constantly looking over his shoulder and also probably dead. He’s like a Jersey Rick Sanchez for people missing the point. David Chase does everything he can to show you how awful Tony is and how even his success is only material and brings him little comfort but they just see the McMansion and Tony being ‘tough.’ fun hater posted:At the end of the sopranos, melfi has the open realization that she has been attempting unsuccessfully to heal a sociopath. Goodfellas ends with henry hill addressing the camera directly about how much his life sucks now that he has to suffer repercussions for his actions. Honestly, much of the messaging of mob movies is not subtle. Toxic masculinity is a real hell of a thing to try and get a message past.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:50
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it's not about forcing people to change their creative output to sate a strictly unproblematic, purity-chasing audience. it's about being mindful of what you're watching and recognizing what, at large, the cultural impact of things is or could be. I understand that can be boiled down to "problematic. thing bad." but anyone who thinks a squeaky clean, emotionally dull story is the end goal is just simplifying things and choosing to discard something rather than actually come to terms with it in a productive manner.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:52
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It's very funny to me that after a lifetime of making fun of the kind of person that sees goodfellas or the Sopranos or scarface and thinks the plots were actually about how those guys were just cool guys and want ot be like Tony cause He's The Boss we now get a mew type of moron who read those works wrong in the same way but tacks on "And that's a bad moral." If you think goodfellas is a movie about how cool it is to be in the mob and that it glorifies the 'lifestyle' you have the exact same reading level as every hot couch guy with a post of scarface on his dorm room door.
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Mar 3, 2021 05:53
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holy poo poo this What The Deck is amazing. It's entirely about decks that, on one side, copy permanents, and on the other side, copy spells. Things get out of hand pretty quickly in many of their games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dgH3Aall_w&hd=1 If WOTC hadn't added the token limiter to Arena to prevent Scute Swarm from creating 65535 copies of itself, Day9 wouldn't have accidentally softlocked his own deck by cloning an enchantment that each themselves makes clones 250 times by accident, meaning he no longer could actually create copies of anything else because he hit the total limit of 250 tokens. but then again, he would have instead just crashed both their clients most likely instead. I love this stupid bullshit where they let nonsense play out rather than full steam ahead try to win. 
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Mar 3, 2021 05:54
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Tonfa posted:
I've never heard of this. What was the game?
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Mar 3, 2021 05:59
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I've never heard of this. What was the game? https://hwbm.fandom.com/wiki/Iapetus
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Mar 3, 2021 06:04
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It's pretty funny how this thread seamlessly went from yelling at each other over Attack on Titan to yelling at each other over gangster movies.  Anywho, Pat the NES Punk came out with a new Flea Market Madness vid, altho it's entirely comprised of old (but never seen before) footage from 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Yj0hdzF8M
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Mar 3, 2021 06:06
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I always wondered if Scorsese knew some mobsters growing up. Goodfellas was so gleefully disdainful of its characters that he must have been basing them on people he knew
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Mar 3, 2021 06:11
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I do believe Scorcese was friends with ex-cons but that might just be hearsay.
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Mar 3, 2021 06:14
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grittyreboot posted:I always wondered if Scorsese knew some mobsters growing up. Goodfellas was so gleefully disdainful of its characters that he must have been basing them on people he knew I was trying to stay out of this derail but yeah Goodfellas and Casino are pretty in your face with the fact that the mobsters (especially any character played by Joe Pesci) are morally bankrupt lunatics who would slit your throat the moment you got in their way or were no longer useful to them and thus a liability. Like near the end of Goodfellas, Henry and his wife are both terrified that their mobster friends who've they've known for a good chunk of their life (practically all of Henry's life) are going to murder them because the mob thinks there a liability. I genuinely don't understand how anyone could see that as glorifying the mob, and the fact that many people do misunderstand the point and go "woah cool badass mobster" just demonstrates a lot of folks are media illiterate sadly.
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Mar 3, 2021 06:19
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Nuebot posted:People romanticize the hell out of organized crime. Be it the mafia or the yakuza, there are a poo poo ton of people who will argue to the death about how awesome, honorable and cool they are as if the harm they do is acceptable because they also do the occasional not awful thing, often for financial reasons. And it's not really helped by decades of films that portray them as cool, strong and quirky dudes that, often, just get hosed over by other people or by getting too big and cool for the system. And when a film does go out of its way, it's rarely ever the self brought upon downfall people remember but the cool crime guys doing cool crime things because people are really, really good at just forgetting the inconvenient details about media they consume. You could literally make a movie about a bad man doing bad things but people will tell themselves it was a good story about a good guy who just got hosed over by someone else if he wore a nice clean suit and spoke with a stereotypical accent. The idea of being for yourself and of pursuing your own selfish desires is always attractive, as is having the power to satisfy your desires. And the state is always contemptible to a degree where you’ll root for an underdog defying and humiliating it. And everyone wants to have a strong sense of community and nice friends who won’t sell you out. It’s basically what Goddard said about war movies, but about the idea of the individual.
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Mar 3, 2021 06:24
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I like how me jokingly describing mobsters as cool white criminals got us here. Like, not even kidding, that's not the worst derail to have.
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Mar 3, 2021 06:29
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The worst derail in this thread by default was that one that culminated in someone posting extremely graphic Movie Bob anal vore fic
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Mar 3, 2021 06:31
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grittyreboot posted:I always wondered if Scorsese knew some mobsters growing up. Goodfellas was so gleefully disdainful of its characters that he must have been basing them on people he knew Didn't he used to be a massive cokehead? I'd think being a famous hollywood director and deep into drugs you'd run into that kind of person more often than most.
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Mar 3, 2021 06:34
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Jamie Faith posted:The worst derail in this thread by default was that one that culminated in someone posting extremely graphic Movie Bob anal vore fic Paging LORD OF BOOTY, LORD OF BOOTY please report to the thread
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Mar 3, 2021 06:34
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Yardbomb posted:Paging LORD OF BOOTY, LORD OF BOOTY please report to the thread They got permabanned lmao https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=213855#frompost509973854
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Mar 3, 2021 06:36
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Junpei Hyde posted:It wasnt an F10 it was an F5!!!! The F10 has more spin at the beginning!! no the difference between an F5 and an F10 is an F5 has the guy doing the move take a back bump during it, the F10 is a release and they stay standing
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Mar 3, 2021 06:42
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Jamie Faith posted:They got permabanned lmao Good
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Mar 3, 2021 06:44
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Alaois posted:no the difference between an F5 and an F10 is an F5 has the guy doing the move take a back bump during it, the F10 is a release and they stay standing I feel brock stays standing in the f5 now
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Mar 3, 2021 06:44
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Junpei Hyde posted:I feel brock stays standing in the f5 now well yeah Brock ain't taking a fuckin bump unless he absolutely has to now
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Mar 3, 2021 06:45
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Alaois posted:well yeah Brock ain't taking a fuckin bump unless he absolutely has to now He should have taken the chainsaw
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Mar 3, 2021 06:51
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