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Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Jose posted:

They're going all out
What a massive coincidence that they've got not 1 but 2 completely unrelated stories about how awful she is, just after she (again, completely unrelatedly) pointed out that they are in fact awful

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Love to pay the license fee

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1367059443939225602?s=19

Skeletome
Feb 4, 2011

Tell them about the tournament!

Could do with some quick guidance- how the gently caress do I raise gross behaviour in a workplace?

I've been at this place for 3 months now, a few days away from probation. We just had an ice breaker session where we had to 'draw our life stories'

Someone in their life story said they moved careers from chef to waiter and responded jokingly 'was the sex change mandatory'
The head of ops/ HR (lol) then later joked following on from that that their girlfriend was from thailand, and obviously you know what they're implying by that based on the previous joke

How the gently caress do I raise something like that? It's quite clearly a boys club.

Thinking of telling my manager and trying to be as civil as possible, but that if things continue in this way it's not a culture I want to be part of.

I know I sound like a coward but I don't want to jeopardize my job, I need the financial security.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


All fudge orders will ship this afternoon

So if you’ve been holding off on ordering but want to get fudged up this week, you have about two hours left to get an order in at https://www.fudjit.co.uk :)

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Skeletome posted:

Could do with some quick guidance- how the gently caress do I raise gross behaviour in a workplace?

I've been at this place for 3 months now, a few days away from probation. We just had an ice breaker session where we had to 'draw our life stories'

Someone in their life story said they moved careers from chef to waiter and responded jokingly 'was the sex change mandatory'
The head of ops/ HR (lol) then later joked following on from that that their girlfriend was from thailand, and obviously you know what they're implying by that based on the previous joke

How the gently caress do I raise something like that? It's quite clearly a boys club.

Thinking of telling my manager and trying to be as civil as possible, but that if things continue in this way it's not a culture I want to be part of.

I know I sound like a coward but I don't want to jeopardize my job, I need the financial security.

I'd start by asking your manager where the company's policy/guidance on diversity & inclusion is and having a read through that, you can then use it as ammo for any issue you raise

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/SpookyLovejoy/status/1366935845467529217

Mebh
May 10, 2010



The hamunculus rises.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Skeletome posted:

Someone in their life story said they moved careers from chef to waiter and responded jokingly 'was the sex change mandatory'

The transphobe brain is always a puzzle, but I don't understand this at all. Like, both chefs and waiters are either gender but stereotypically male... :iiam:

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD
so budget in 20 mins.... how's everyone feeling

I actually think it looks... alright... ? stamp duty holiday extension & more support for first time buyers, capital gains tax up, corporate tax up (boo on freezing personal allowance which is a regressive cheap shot). furlough extended, grants to the arts and retail / restaurant industries. Extension of UC upift. Anything else?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

The transphobe brain is always a puzzle, but I don't understand this at all. Like, both chefs and waiters are either gender but stereotypically male... :iiam:
Biological chefs have a large immobile omelette.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

What the hell is the "large immobile gamete" thing from? I keep hearing it and I have no idea what it means unless you are a big egg and parliament lost the majority of its high profile eggs in the corbyn years.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


OwlFancier posted:

parliament lost the majority of its high profile eggs

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


What did people think koeths previous job was if not to sign off on state crimes and atrocities?

That's why he was selected to kill labour to facilitate a new crime against democracy

In 30 years it'll be revealed he was a plant and people will go "oh"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I already think he is a plant, possibly some sort of bromeliad that feeds off human brain tissue. That's what the hair is.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

OwlFancier posted:

What the hell is the "large immobile gamete" thing from? I keep hearing it and I have no idea what it means unless you are a big egg and parliament lost the majority of its high profile eggs in the corbyn years.

Requesting modchange to LARGE IMMOBILE GAMETE

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

Borrovan posted:

What a massive coincidence that they've got not 1 but 2 completely unrelated stories about how awful she is, just after she (again, completely unrelatedly) pointed out that they are in fact awful
Everything to do with the royal family is awful. Every member of it, the fawning press, people who care about it, people who marry into it, people who profit off it by association - fire all of them into the sun and level Buckingham Palace, imo.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Flayer posted:

Everything to do with the royal family is awful. Every member of it, the fawning press, people who care about it, people who marry into it, people who profit off it by association - fire all of them into the sun and level Buckingham Palace, imo.

Not to let them off the hook in anyway, but I assume the majority of this stuff happens on autopilot from the top -i.e. the various functionary ramoras that effect all the Palace business are empowered to carry out these kind of vicious PR assaults by themselves, or maybe with a vague nod from the Big 'Er Indoors.

Maybe that's the real propaganda I've absorbed though, where anything good is Liz being Wise, and anything bad is some weaselly flunky doing stuff in the background.

Either way, wish them all a happy :thermidor:

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Communist Thoughts posted:

What did people think koeths previous job was if not to sign off on state crimes and atrocities?

That's why he was selected to kill labour to facilitate a new crime against democracy

In 30 years it'll be revealed he was a plant and people will go "oh"

If he’s a plant he’s loving up by being so bad. He could have avoided a lot of poo poo and still cemented labour as the party of do nothing centrism. I think he might just be bad at his job AND a piece of poo poo

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

MikeCrotch posted:

It's also because the Tory party has way fewer members right now - the way you get influence is by being a big donor, not being in the party structure.

Twas not always thus - the Tory party in the 1960s had over 2 million members thanks to youth and women's outreach groups among other things.

the WI remains effectively a dormant tory paramilitary organisation imo

they'd have taken to the streets if corbyn had got in

Mebh posted:

Wonder if I should still put jedi as my religion on the census. Seems a bit naff now.

tat would be uber rAnDoM m8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hehe:

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Regarde Aduck posted:

If he’s a plant he’s loving up by being so bad. He could have avoided a lot of poo poo and still cemented labour as the party of do nothing centrism. I think he might just be bad at his job AND a piece of poo poo

Nah Kier actually doing a good job would be the surest possible sign that the British state and mi5 weren't involved

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


From the USPOL thread (it's about the BBC):

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

We've all stopped a random black guy on the street of D.C. and assumed he was Cory Booker.

Happens to everyone.

---

Correction and apology: Friday 26 February 2021

In our Newshour radio programme on Friday, a man claiming to be Senator Cory Booker was interviewed in what appears to be a deliberate hoax. We have apologised to Senator Booker and are looking into what went wrong to make sure it doesn't happen again. The interview only aired once at 2000 GMT on Newshour on Friday 26 February and has not appeared elsewhere.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5BLDCC5j1wV4h2JF1WnDpct/correction-and-apology-friday-26-february-2021

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Comrade Fakename posted:

From the USPOL thread (it's about the BBC):

Whom amongst us hasn't accidentally got a random bloke confused with a reasonably a prominent politician on our beat?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

crispix posted:

the WI remains effectively a dormant tory paramilitary organisation imo



There was a short-lived black comedy series called Suburban Shootout back in the mid 2000s.
It was set in a rural village and all the posh women (who definitely had a tory look about most of them) were in one of two armed gangs while the menfolk were completely oblivious to what was going on under their noses.
I thought it was really funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6gEfUh1-lU

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/HKesvani/status/1367090237411897344?s=20

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


forkboy84 posted:

Whom amongst us hasn't accidentally got a random bloke confused with a reasonably a prominent politician on our beat?

Apparently happens more than you think

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Ewan posted:

(boo on freezing personal allowance which is a regressive cheap shot)

It's not regressive, whether or not it's good. Tax thresholds apply to all people above them. The very poorest do not benefit from tax threshold rises at all, which is why those are the Tory/LD preferred tax changes.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

feedmegin posted:

Also most Americans aren't formally members of a party and don't carry cards. Communists doing that is Weird and Different to them in a way it isn't to the many people in this thread who do now or have formerly had a little red card of their own in their wallet.

Still do:

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

peanut- posted:

I have some sympathy for Labour in that even if Sunak is trying to raise taxes, he’s not doing it to drive public spending and investment.

Rishi clearly wants to do fiscal responsibility, austerity 2 which is a catastrophically bad, discredited idea.

Problem is Labour are also talking about being "fiscally responsible" while not raising taxes, which is even closer to Osborne style austerity than Sunak

I reckon Dodds get canned after the May elections assuming the results are bad (and maybe even if they aren't) and I wouldn't be surprised to see a shift in Labour rhetoric on the economy. OTOH it seems like Labour have proper backed themselves into a corner and would officially be flailing if they try another "reset" so soon.

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD

Oh dear me posted:

It's not regressive, whether or not it's good. Tax thresholds apply to all people above them. The very poorest do not benefit from tax threshold rises at all, which is why those are the Tory/LD preferred tax changes.
Fair point. I suppose I was thinking of those who sit on the poverty line but above the threshold (e.g. minimum wage workers / part time workers), to whom £500 a year is a big deal.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
He just announced that the corporation tax rises are limited to large companies only so Labour are gonna look like even bigger twats if they argue against it.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Labour going down the tubes is just fine, what are people gonna do? Build another party?

Obviously the main goal is control of the labour party since we had a brief excess of democracy that got quickly dealt with but not without coming close to upsetting the status quo and making them get out of bed.
The ideal is that nobody can even try to vote for someone who isn't aligned with the ruling class.

But destruction of labour as a political force is okay too, it would just result in a few splinter parties that can't oppose the tories and the remaining parties are under control already.

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD

peanut- posted:

He just announced that the corporation tax rises are limited to large companies only so Labour are gonna look like even bigger twats if they argue against it.
I'm honestly curious to hear what Starmer's response to all of this is going to be.

Set aside political alignment, this budget is pretty much what most progressives would be after (within the limits of what is realistic). Fund a big package of stimulus spending through capital gains, corporation tax, pensions, inheritance tax etc and done in a way designed not to hit small or struggling businesses, and freeze most of the regressive taxes like VAT, duties, etc.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Speaking of the royals, there's a massive scrum of reporters outside Barts today. I saw sat vans for CNN, NBC and RT and lost count at 20 photographers/videographers, and there are satellite vans from three continents news channels parked all over the loving place. I assumed something must have happened as at least three live OBs seemed to be happening, but I guess it was just live reports on Big Phil still not being officially dead for the midday news? Utter insanity, it must be costing tens of thousands of pounds a day to keep people stationed outside a hospital where they will *definitely* not be the first to hear if he dies or gets better, just weird cargo-cult journalism, so they can say "we now go live to..." someone who just reads out the email that the press office sent the news room.

(I know this is the case for almost all television news - it was just particularly odd to see them all and realise they've been there for at least 3 days and most of them had probably been hanging around the other hospital for a week - even odder that for some reason they're all outside the KGV Building which is... probably not where he is (it's where the specialist cardiac wards are, but I bet he's in one of the older buildings for security reasons because there's no way they can partition off a room/ward for him in the modern building without loving everything up) completely blocking both pavements on a pretty busy road, rather than being outside the much more telegenic and roomy Smithfield entrance (where Benedict Cumberbatch jumped off in Sherlock; the phone box there has more tearful memorials than the William Wallace monument around the corner). I assume they think it's a more dramatic shot or something because there's always red buses and black taxis driving past)

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


MikeCrotch posted:

which is even closer to Osborne style austerity than Sunak
The most brutal peacetime cuts in UK history possibly have since been retrofitted as sensible centrism, it's what people want, not like those awful populists like Johnson and Corbyn which are definitely the same thing

We can probably expect more of this imo

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

MikeCrotch posted:

Problem is Labour are also talking about being "fiscally responsible" while not raising taxes, which is even closer to Osborne style austerity than Sunak

I reckon Dodds get canned after the May elections assuming the results are bad (and maybe even if they aren't) and I wouldn't be surprised to see a shift in Labour rhetoric on the economy. OTOH it seems like Labour have proper backed themselves into a corner and would officially be flailing if they try another "reset" so soon.

its going to be rachel "we'll be tougher than the tories on those who get benefits" reeves taking over

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Borrovan posted:

The most brutal peacetime cuts in UK history possibly have since been retrofitted as sensible centrism, it's what people want, not like those awful populists like Johnson and Corbyn which are definitely the same thing

We can probably expect more of this imo

It's so galling because it's just ***obviously not true***

There's so much polling that shows that the majority of people are fine with tax rises to rebuild public services, that fiscal austerity was never popular and that people right now do not give a gently caress about balancing the books

Just maddening how the current leadership has managed to pin themselves to economic policy that is both morally wrong and unpopular at the same time

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Oh dear me posted:

It's not regressive, whether or not it's good. Tax thresholds apply to all people above them. The very poorest do not benefit from tax threshold rises at all, which is why those are the Tory/LD preferred tax changes.

The personal allowance is going to be frozen at £12,570, unless you think that anyone earning over £13k is living the high life then it is absolutely and definitely regressive, because it affects the poor in a way that richer people won't notice.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Jose posted:

its going to be rachel "we'll be tougher than the tories on those who get benefits" reeves taking over

Nandy has equal odds I reckon

There's also the possibility Keith gets another nobody in who he can safely can if his policies turn out to be unpopular

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Morally wrong, unpopular, and economically bad

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Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


MikeCrotch posted:

Just maddening how the current leadership has managed to pin themselves to economic policy that is both morally wrong and unpopular at the same time
Hey now, be fair, you're not really presenting the full picture here

It's also ineffective and counterproductive (e:^:argh:)

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