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lol owned sexpig by night posted:I do wanna say I'm sorry for getting aggro on you specifically when I could spend this energy cyberbullying Joe Biden no please dont apologize I find it a relief to see others have the same reaction i did seeing those posts
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Ruzihm posted:There's a good Keynesian argument for means-testing stimulus, as income increases the % of income going towards consumption activity declines. The point of the checks are to stimulate consumer demand. If someone just puts it in a savings account it's not really doing anything useful. baby brain
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Too Many Birds posted:dems literally campaigned their senate majority on getting these checks out and now they are shaving away that money as much as they possibly can. Remember the day of the runoff when Joe literally said 'we're going to get $2000 out the door day one' and then as soon as they were over said 'I actually meant $1400 and you're an idiot if you disagree'? Cool time!
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sexpig by night posted:there's not a good Keynesian argument for loving anything you dipshit, demand based economics are literal fairy tale bullshit Give me money that expires then if that is the issue I will buy something.
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sexpig by night posted:the dollar is the MOST fake money, too! We run global finance! We can do whatever we want! People have real problems with understanding that money is fake, laws are fake, countries are fake, pretty much everything you can't touch is fake bullshit made up to impose order on chaos, generally for the benefit of a few at the expense of the many, and none of it is intrinsic to the running of the universe. We could choose other principles to run the world on, we just have to battle the entrenched who profit from the current arrangement.
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lol https://twitter.com/DavidBa69494891/status/1367153967734681610 edit: lmao https://twitter.com/BudgetBen/status/1367214937009971202 spacemang_spliff has issued a correction as of 22:37 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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Thoguh posted:Give me money that expires then if that is the issue I will buy something. yea if the issue really is this dumbass worldview then give me a check that auto-explodes in four months or something Inspector Gadget style! I'll spend that poo poo, I'll buy so many Steam games I don't need! Just give me my drat money!
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Ruzihm posted:The point of the checks are to stimulate consumer demand this is not the point of the checks
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Lol everyone with a DSA gang tag is a dipshit. ah i posted too close to the sun and my wax keyboard melted
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sexpig by night posted:there's not a good Keynesian argument for loving anything you dipshit, demand based economics are literal fairy tale bullshit Supply based economics are also literal fairy tale bullshit. Theres a conclusion here that should be easy to reach
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My methods are guaranteed to fail 100% of the time. Here is why this is a good thing (1/183)
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what if we accidentally give covid relief to one of those guys who became a millionaire by not eating avocado toast and making coffee at home
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dsa democratically succing always
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Nix Panicus posted:Supply based economics are also literal fairy tale bullshit. clearly the answer is we need both sides of this debate to swap off the reigns of power every few years until a perfect middle forms. Any year now...
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Judakel posted:dsa democratically succing always dsa loving sucks poo poo from a sick dog's rear end just haven't cared enough to remove the tag because lol at caring about anything
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Judakel posted:dsa democratically succing always the highest hope i had for national dsa was when the bernie or bust resolution passed. That hope did not last long unfortunately lol. national is a disgrace. baltimore's local is pretty goddamn good though, I'll rep dsa for their sake.
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Ruzihm posted:If the choice was "start the phase out at 50k" or "speed up the phase out", I'm picking speeding it up every time. Why would that ever be the choice? Where are the people who are voting against a 1.9 trillion dollar relief bill but are all in on a 1.78 trillion dollar relief bill? Also, all of this stupid means testing is based on pre-COVID income. So some number of the 80k folks are probably jobless now.
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Ruzihm posted:the highest hope i had for national dsa was when the bernie or bust resolution passed. yea some locals are still legit but I was also incredibly sad to see the national form of the party just happily become a vestigial growth of the DNC
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lmao remember when oakland dsa came out against an affordable housing proposition because it was a tax on homeowners?
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Substandard posted:Why would that ever be the choice? Where are the people who are voting against a 1.9 trillion dollar relief bill but are all in on a 1.78 trillion dollar relief bill? Also, all of this stupid means testing is based on pre-COVID income. So some number of the 80k folks are probably jobless now. seriously I need to see SOMEONE drill these fuckers on this. Ask every single moderate Dem 'did you at any point ever even hint that you'd not support a 1.9 trillion bill, but were fine with a 1.7 one?' We all know the answer is no but I want loving record proof that this fantasy land poo poo is a complete lie.
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Substandard posted:Why would that ever be the choice? Where are the people who are voting against a 1.9 trillion dollar relief bill but are all in on a 1.78 trillion dollar relief bill? Also, all of this stupid means testing is based on pre-COVID income. So some number of the 80k folks are probably jobless now. real answer: It's only a choice because the democrat party is a wing of capital. therefore, labor has no power in the senate succ answer: circular logic about manchin's existence in the senate being justified because the party machinery won't be permitted to support a primary opponent who would actually fight on behalf of labor.
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sexpig by night posted:yea some locals are still legit but I was also incredibly sad to see the national form of the party just happily become a vestigial growth of the DNC I saw DSA best described as the Dems' youth outreach org.
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if we had any actual press in this country 'getting to the bottom of who made them add means testing in this bill meant to save lives' would be priority 1 for every outlet. Like, journalists getting into loving fist fights over who can get the scoop level.
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Dixon Chisholm posted:I saw DSA best described as the Dems' youth outreach org. pretty much yea, DSA in most places are where the cool and slightly more diverse youth ends of the DNC go 'hey M4A is cool but you know what's REALLY cool? Medicare for all who want it'
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Nix Panicus posted:Supply based economics are also literal fairy tale bullshit. 
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tmfc posted:yeah this guy seem legitimately mentally unwell Kinda like the episodes of cart narcs where people pull out a gun, takes the fun out of it 
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I haven't actually calculated how much $2,000/month would cost until now. Assuming the same means-testing as the House bill, (2000/1400)*$450b * 18 months = $11.574 trillion one million (1x10^6) deaths prevented * ten million dollars (1x10^7) per person = $10 trillion ($1x10^13) an oversimplification, because it's also about preventing mass homelessness and poverty, but the magnitude sounds about right to me galenanorth has issued a correction as of 23:26 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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WHERES MY MONEY
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the checks are in the mail. your children will get that $400 dollars in 2041 as promised
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it's my money and I want it now!!!!
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