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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Since I'm actually playing through an amp now, and not through interface/guitar rig on pc speakers, will pickups come into play more? I didn't notice much difference in sound between my guitar with EMGs and my brother's Les Paul copy through guitar rig but I'm curious to try my guitar out on the amp when I get it back. Yes. I've noticed that I actually need to turn the gain down a little bit on my guitars with active pickups compared to passive pickups. but once you get the thing hooked up to a computer you should totally mess with the EQ, particularly the graphic eq and test it out at the front and back of the signal chain. Test out the presets I linked earlier, the first high gain one and the reverse delay one are super fun
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Yeah, I'll do all that but I need to order that USB cable. I was playing it a little more and I think I narrowed down the one thing that bothers me - any fast picking, especially on the low E string sounds really bad to my ears.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Got my Boss Katana 50 in today. I feel a little mixed. It doesn't sound as great as I thought it would(I've been playing through guitar rig on some old computer speakers, so I assumed it would be much better), however, it didn't sound terrible. But, I get the feeling with all the effects and stuff, it'll probably take a little fiddling and learning to dial in to what I'm looking for. I'm not good at describing sounds, but I felt the nice meaty low end palm mute type of sounds were lacking. The Katana can make plenty of metal sounds exactly as though you had lots of metal pedals, so you've just gotta learn what all those knobs do  its worth it!Yes, pedals in the chain will make the katana sound different, but it is capable of emulating many pedals very accurately itself, so start with that and only buy a pedal if its your favorite effect or if the katana can't get close. You can customize your sound using the knobs pretty well in the meantime while waiting on that USB cable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMOTHeaDeqs&t=61s The EMGs will help you hear less buzz when you're around electronics like a computer, otherwise tonal differences between pickups can be subtle and is something you have to get an ear for. I don't think an amp will make it more obvious than using an interface though. Ok Comboomer posted:How does the Katana 50 compare to its bigger siblings? They're nearly identical, the only difference other than wattage / speakers is that the 100s and up allow you to save twice as many presets. (4 vs 8) But with a computer connected via USB, you can always save more presets and swap them in and out. I have a 100 that I thought I'd really prefer but honestly I could probably get by with the 50. Also note that the Katana has a revision, the Mark 2 has a few more cab models than the Mark 1 and goes for a little more money. E: Oh as Fats points out below, the 100+ models have an extra output/input for an effects loop that the 50s don't have. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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Thumposaurus posted:If you have enough pedals you don't even have to know how to play Just ask The Edge.
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Ok Comboomer posted:How does the Katana 50 compare to its bigger siblings? The 100 has an effects loop and the 50 doesn't, that's the only difference I can think of that hasn't been mentioned already.
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Zaphod42 posted:The Katana can make plenty of metal sounds exactly as though you had lots of metal pedals, so you've just gotta learn what all those knobs do The heck? Mine sounded nothing like that! Any basic suggestions to try until I get that cable? Like I said, it especially sounded awful playing fast on the low strings. I wish I could explain it well, but I guess I'd say it was "muddled" or like it just blended together into just noise and it didn't quite have that chugging mute sound like that. I might have had the gain too high or could even be I needed to raise volume with less gain, I dunno. I wasn't playing super quiet, but not loud either. I assumed the .5 watt setting was just for that, but it didn't seem to make a huge difference. I'll have more time after work tomorrow to experiment some more.
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Ok Comboomer posted:How does the Katana 50 compare to its bigger siblings? If you're gonna play live with it and/or wanna use looping or a bunch of time based pedals, get the 100 and the foot switch. I ordered the 100 but like everything it's backordered a few weeks so I don't have it yet. Also none of them come with a USB cable which is stupid.
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mango sentinel posted:Also none of them come with a USB cable which is stupid. I assume it's a standard A-B cable?
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Flip Yr Wig posted:I assume it's a standard A-B cable? Yep.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:The heck? Mine sounded nothing like that! Any basic suggestions to try until I get that cable? Like I said, it especially sounded awful playing fast on the low strings. I wish I could explain it well, but I guess I'd say it was "muddled" or like it just blended together into just noise and it didn't quite have that chugging mute sound like that. I might have had the gain too high or could even be I needed to raise volume with less gain, I dunno. I wasn't playing super quiet, but not loud either. I assumed the .5 watt setting was just for that, but it didn't seem to make a huge difference. I'll have more time after work tomorrow to experiment some more. Siivola fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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Mar 3, 2021 06:11
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So, I went to my local guitar store to buy a flying v and walked out with an LTD Ron Wood Tele instead. As soon as I got home, I plugged it in, cranked my amp up and played the poo poo out of Killing In The Name. Don't tell my wife I spent an extra $150 for that case. 
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Ooh that's pretty. Nice case too. I love having a good case for each of my guitars and want a nice tweed one for my thin line but in all honesty I don't take my guitars out of the house often. At some point I'll buy a gretsch and have 6 guitars and cases to find room for. The case for my breedlove alone is huge.
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Gramps posted:They're only like 1-2 percent bigger. They still fit in the vast majority of Tele cases.
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So, I'm thinking about buying a baritone guitar. The 2 I am currently looking at are the Squier Paranormal Cabronita and the Danelectro 56 Baritone. The reviews seem good for both and the prices are reasonable. Does anyone have any thoughts or advice they could share?
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Baron von Eevl posted:Is the cabronita a baritone? Not normally, but they made a baritone-version last year iirc.
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There's a regular and a baritone, the baritone is the black and white ones and the standard is red and white
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I just found out the Mosky Plexi-m ($29US) pedal is an exact clone of the Carl Martin Plexitone Single Channel ($200) which is a really great-sounding Marshall-in-a-box pedal. Did y'all already know that particular Mosky is good?
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I feel like OD Pedals are actually easy to dial in with how good a lot of Mosky and other cheap drives and distortions sound. AFAIK you're mostly sacrificing headroom and dealing with something that will implode internally in a few months. Does any company make good quality wood pickguards? I want a JM pickguard with the look of a popsicle stick, but one that's multi ply and not just laser cut MDF.
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The Mosky even includes the voltage converter to run internally at 24v.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:The heck? Mine sounded nothing like that! Any basic suggestions to try until I get that cable? Like I said, it especially sounded awful playing fast on the low strings. I wish I could explain it well, but I guess I'd say it was "muddled" or like it just blended together into just noise and it didn't quite have that chugging mute sound like that. I might have had the gain too high or could even be I needed to raise volume with less gain, I dunno. I wasn't playing super quiet, but not loud either. I assumed the .5 watt setting was just for that, but it didn't seem to make a huge difference. I'll have more time after work tomorrow to experiment some more. The thing about the Katana is it isn't just 1 amp, its not a valve. Its a digital effects modeling system, its basically a POD connected to a speaker all in one. So you really have to learn how to control the effects to get a good sound from it, its like an amp AND a bunch of pedals. Start by setting the amp model to Lead or Brown. Set amp volume to something in the middle, set .5 watt setting, and turn the master volume to where it sounds reasonable. Then play with turning up and down the Gain and also turning up and down the Booster knob. Also, press the button that changes the booster knob color so you cycle between the 3 stock boosters. Set ALL of the effects knobs to OFF. https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/KATANA_e02_W.pdf By default with no Computer fiddling, the Green setting will be Blues Drive, the Red is Overdrive, and the Orange is Distortion. Try turning up the booster and pressing the colors. After you get a good base sound from your amp model and booster, you can then turn up the other knobs, the Mod and Reverb, and again, press the colors to cycle between various models. Read that linked pdf to understand what the colors mean for the defaults, and then when you get a USB you can change everything even further with "hidden" options. E: Also a key thing to understand, is that if you set up presets, pressing the preset button will switch all the settings digitally to what you saved, but it doesn't have motors to actually turn the knobs to the previous saved settings. So all the knobs will be basically ignored and their current positions don't matter after activating a preset. However, you're still free to touch the knobs if you want to play with changing the preset tone, but if your saved knob position is at 60 degrees and currently the knob is at 270 degrees when you dial in the preset, if you start turning it, the sound will suddenly jump because it'll go from 60 degrees to 269 degrees as soon as you start turning the knob down, since it wasn't actually at 270. You feel me? Its not too crazy but it can throw you off at first. If you aren't using presets though then don't worry about it. Siivola posted:Find the DS-1 overdrive effect and turn that on with the volume full, dist at zero and tone almost all the way up. Leave the gain and eq on the amp at two o'clock and turn the bass down if it still sounds muddled. Yeah this. So set to Brown or Lead and set the booster to red and then play with the knobs. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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mango sentinel posted:
Birch plywood is probably the material you're looking for. Any local maker-/hackerspaces? They might be able to laser or CNC one for you. Or you can diy it if you're reasonably patient/handy.
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Zaphod42 posted:The thing about the Katana is it isn't just 1 amp, its not a valve. Its a digital effects modeling system, its basically a POD connected to a speaker all in one. So you really have to learn how to control the effects to get a good sound from it, its like an amp AND a bunch of pedals. Thanks, I played with it some and that helped a little. I also stuck a piece of wood behind the amp to close it up, and that seems like it sounds better too. e: I got my guitar back and I forgot how twangy and noisy new strings are. Also at 1 step down, these .11s are still slightly loose for my taste, I'll prob go with 12s next time
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I should probably start getting to the point where i can "shred." I used to be able to play very fast but I never stayed in the right scale. So what I was thinking was using a very heavy pick and focus mainly on down picking as fast as I can. When I was young I would only downpick because I thought I was punk and only loser Smashing Pumpkins geeks up-picked on a guitar. I absolutely hated Billy Corgan when I was 16 lol but I learned to like them now. Anyway, I probably won't get around to it but shredding is probably a thing to work on everyday.
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Oh I'll throw this out. Guitar hardware itself isn't that interesting, it's what you DO with the guitar that counts. I"m just gonna play my Man or Astroman guitar forever and be happy
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Shredding is all about playing the piece/technique very slowly, perfectly, and gradually increasing the tempo a little bit every day for as long as necessary. Perfect knowledge and execution of the material is #1, speed always follows after that and not before.
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fwiw I got fast and accurate on guitar by playing fast a lot while staying conscious of my technique. Just improvising and playing scales and patterns whatever. There are no limits if you have a good paul gilbert instructional book and an x files binge going
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beer gas canister posted:Shredding is all about playing the piece/technique very slowly, perfectly, and gradually increasing the tempo a little bit every day for as long as necessary. Perfect knowledge and execution of the material is #1, speed always follows after that and not before. This + realizing that fast playing is more a quickness/economy of motion thing will put a lot of people into a good path for getting faster and cleaner.
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I've taught little kids to "shred" (8th notes at 150bpm) in that fashion and the look on their face after practicing poo poo at 60bpm for three weeks then taking their material nearly up to tempo in 30 minutes is always priceless.
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How complicated is what you have their left have doing in those exercises?
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Huxley posted:How complicated is what you have their left have doing in those exercises? I mostly teach piano students, and those playing at that tempo have usually been at it 2-4 years. Kids seem WAY slower to work through stuff on guitar, in part due to the increased physical challenge compared to keyboards, and because the guitar method world is far behind piano in terms of properly graded material. I'm also not a masterful guitarist (or pianist for that matter but hey), and I've spent much less time teaching it, so I'm sure there are other people that can make it happen. It's not especially complex, usually both hands together, separate parts, each within a single five-note (1 key per finger without reaching) position, with occasional movements to other keys. But complexity is not so important - they're developing reflexes and most importantly, their practice habits, so that weird notes and rhythms won't gently caress them up later, since they're not tripping over their fingers, and they'll know how to rally their attention towards solving problems (through slow practice and mastery) instead of repeating mistakes. beer gas canister fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Mar 4, 2021 |
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Speaking of practicing correctly, I want to learn Spirit Crusher for real, as in properly. I can play a lot of the intro well enough with the song, but that part in the verse after the intro where the tempo shifts up really fast, like 16ths @ 190bpm or so. Do I need to set a metronome/click track up in particular, or can I just tab that out in guitar pro so it repeats, and just slow the tempo down and just play along with the notes? I'm not sure if something like that matters. Basically, I guess I'm asking if just playing along with the riff you are trying to play slowed down accomplishes the same thing? I figure playing with a metronome on your own is good in general, since it's just you keeping time to only a beat, but this part of the song is more speed/technique practice for me than anything.
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beer gas canister posted:I mostly teach piano students, and those playing at that tempo have usually been at it 2-4 years. Kids seem WAY slower to work through stuff on guitar, in part due to the increased physical challenge compared to keyboards, and because the guitar method world is far behind piano in terms of properly graded material. I'm also not a masterful guitarist (or pianist for that matter but hey), and I've spent much less time teaching it, so I'm sure there are other people that can make it happen. I've been teaching my daughter (turning 6 this month) piano and it has been going well, but I'd love to teach her guitar as well, since she loves my electric guitars and pedals. But even a 22.5" scale guitar (my duo-sonic) is way too big for her and I can't imagine her weak hands holding down a chord. What age do you think is a good for starting guitar? In the meantime, she is getting pretty good at piano and I feel way more confident teaching piano than I do guitar so I can keep doing what I am doing.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Speaking of practicing correctly, I want to learn Spirit Crusher for real, as in properly. I can play a lot of the intro well enough with the song, but that part in the verse after the intro where the tempo shifts up really fast, like 16ths @ 190bpm or so. Do I need to set a metronome/click track up in particular, or can I just tab that out in guitar pro so it repeats, and just slow the tempo down and just play along with the notes? I'm not sure if something like that matters. Basically, I guess I'm asking if just playing along with the riff you are trying to play slowed down accomplishes the same thing? I figure playing with a metronome on your own is good in general, since it's just you keeping time to only a beat, but this part of the song is more speed/technique practice for me than anything. Play it at half, or even a quarter, of the performance bpm, with a metronome, or the recording if slowing it down that much doesn't cause it to sound like poo poo. Fast passages must be mastered slowly first, unless it's something that's well within your skill range, as in could learn in a day or two at performance speed. You need to build a physical map first to know where you're going, then speedrun the map after many repetitions. re: kids learning guitar... I really don't know. A motivated student will learn whatever, but 2 instruments at once can be daunting. They can't really abstract the knowledge from one instrument to another at that age, unless they're extremely far along in their studies. Kids (adults too but kids moreso) understand music by feeling and experiencing it with their hands/arms/etc. I always suggest keeping them on piano until age 11 or 12 so that they can learn all of theory and sight reading skill granted by piano and give it their full attention. Give her a uke along with piano and teach her to strum the basic chords. She'll gain fretting experience, learn to strum, keep time, sing, etc, without all of the difficulty in handling a whole rear end guitar. It's low commitment, and you can play a bajillion songs with ease in well under a year of practice. And many of the chord shapes are identical to guitar. With the piano, are you using method books? I strongly recommend the Faber My First Piano Adventure series for her age. Get the enrichment books for each level, and go strictly in order. Make sure she can thoroughly perform the pieces without copying you (watching your hands, learning by ear without reading). beer gas canister fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Mar 4, 2021 |
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Speaking of practicing correctly, I want to learn Spirit Crusher for real, as in properly. I can play a lot of the intro well enough with the song, but that part in the verse after the intro where the tempo shifts up really fast, like 16ths @ 190bpm or so. Do I need to set a metronome/click track up in particular, or can I just tab that out in guitar pro so it repeats, and just slow the tempo down and just play along with the notes? I'm not sure if something like that matters. Basically, I guess I'm asking if just playing along with the riff you are trying to play slowed down accomplishes the same thing? I figure playing with a metronome on your own is good in general, since it's just you keeping time to only a beat, but this part of the song is more speed/technique practice for me than anything. I'm doing this with Abysswalker by Tomb Mold right now after like a 10 year hiatus from playing guitar (I was never very good back then anyway). The tab I found has 16th at 145bpm for the intro and I'm going at it at 80. It's hilarious and feels like a completely different song, but I'm still having fun. I'm using Google's built in metronome, but that's more so because I'm lazy and don't want to tune down from standard or change the tuning in Guitar Pro. I should do Spirit Crusher next. I love Death. PolishPandaBear fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Mar 4, 2021 |
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Anybody play lap steel? Any good learning resources? I ordered one on a whim and it should be here next week. I love the sound of C6, so I'll start with that, but otherwise I'm going in pretty blind.
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A few days ago I decided to revisit an album I loved in college, and realized "holy poo poo most of these riffs are just At the Gates riffs combined with suffocation riffs and then chuggy parts. " But then I realized they play in drop B, and I have guitars in B standard so yeah I can totally learn this. Then I realized "I haven't done sweep picking in years" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY-ezv8zMks So now I'm going through things super slow, getting the muscle memory down, and will keep grinding it out. Did a little bit today, I'll do a little more tomorrow. And a little more the next day. Over time, I'll get this. Aside from the sweeping parts the songs pretty easy but man I haven't done those in years. And with that I'll have a new song to have some fun with when I can go loud. Oh and also i sorta started learning this other song which is basically baby's first diminished and harmonic minor riffs. Also this was the first time I heard a gravity blast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkSAK4f_bSQ
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I'm moving on from cowboy chords into stuff like scales and arpeggiating chords with a metronome. It's a little dull, sure, but it's super cool when I'm able to look at the ceiling and pick out three or four different chords on different strings in a row before fumbling. Being able to accurately navigate six strings across less than two inches of space blows me away.
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I'm in my 30s and my wife got me a guitar for our anniversary (I've always wanted to learn to play), but had a kid a month later. We're finally at a spot where I feel like I can devote some time to practice every day. The best online resource I've come across is Justin Guitar. Does anyone have any other recommendations for learning materials / how to teach yourself? I learn better visually than through text, but would be open to any "must have" book resources.
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