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Cross-Section posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPthih3uL5g Holy poo poo I'm dying at the alternate version e: I'm now dead and a ghost so someone please find me a Scottish sex candle to haunt, tia
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"The weather control system is off, and it is now more like real scotland than ever!" They say on the obvious set.
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Cross-Section posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPthih3uL5g I'm just going to assume that the reason Beverly ducks out of the scene at the end is because she's heading up to the bridge to beat the poo poo out of Picard.
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Nessus posted:Perhaps a metaphor for people being pigheadedly determined to suffer and experience conditions of scarcity and lack rather than take straightforward steps to resolve technical problems, due to unexamined philosophical assumptions? That would be an excellent parable of America - and I'll let you fill in the gaps yourself But Disco is so OPTIMISTIC!!!
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Mar 6, 2021 01:28
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Picard 'died' when he tossed aside the priceless archaeology item that he was gifted in TNG during Generations. 12 seconds in to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHSX9e1TadA
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Mar 6, 2021 01:32
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happyhippy posted:Picard 'died' when he tossed aside the priceless archaeology item that he was gifted in TNG during Generations. the Kerlin Nescar!!
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Tighclops posted:I can relate. Star Trek was my first love, after Picardshow I don't care about anything happens in any version of that universe anymore. I still love the old stuff I loved before, but the thought of going back to that world or seeing any of those characters again leaves me feeling cold inside. As far as I'm concerned, Star Trek's universe goes as far as the very end of What You Leave Behind, pt. 2. Maybe Lower Decks is in there too, since it generally seems OK, but that's about it. No Star Trek after Voyager sounds remotely worth my time and effort.
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happyhippy posted:Picard 'died' when he tossed aside the priceless archaeology item that he was gifted in TNG during Generations. Eh, I think you can read that differently. Throughout that movie he's been coming to terms with loosing his family in the fire at the vinyard. The time in the Nexus is him being tempted with a still living and loving family. The last piece of them he has, the old family photo album which he looks at with Guinan at the start of the movie in 10 Forward was in his ready room. That last piece of his family was more valuable to him than any ancient artifact and what he ultimately comes away with after scouring the wreckage.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Eh, It still blows me away to this day how people completely misinterpret that moment all because Red Letter Media added in a funny glass breaking sound effect to it like 15 years ago now.
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McSpanky posted:But Disco is so OPTIMISTIC!!!
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Don't forget that they had to add "dumb as poo poo" since literally 4 movies were made about how star fleet stopped earth from being murked, and having star fleet was a good thing. The borg should have literally taught them they needed a strong space fleet and that the dangers of the galaxy were many! But nope 1000 years later, and they have no space ships just some satellites that couldn't have stopped the xindi super weapon.
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Timby posted:I held the same opinion until Picard rolled around. Sweet Jesus, that show is exceptionally terrible. I've watched it stone-cold sober, I've watched it high as gently caress, and I can find almost nothing redeeming about it. Yeah, you... you might be right about Picard. I've already forgotten so much of it. I think the thing about Nemesis is how much of it stuck in my brain and is just so easy to remember the ways in which it was bad. As for Georgiou, that whole eulogy to the murderous space dictator was really something. I guess the producers felt like they really needed to get people pumped up for her for that Section 31 series?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:As for Georgiou, that whole eulogy to the murderous space dictator was really something. I guess the producers felt like they really needed to get people pumped up for her for that Section 31 series?
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Nitrousoxide posted:Eh, Even aside from this 100% correct take, are we assuming that Picard, who lives someplace that violently changes direction sometimes, has less respect for archaeology than Indiana "It Belongs In A Museum" Jones? The original is probably being studied by professionals while Picard keeps a replicated copy on his desk.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I'm extremely glad that we spent two episodes of a 13 episode season on what is essentially a side trip back to the Mirror Universe. Especially since now Paramount is kind of downplaying the idea that the S31 show is going to happen. Pike's series is delayed isn't it and being downplayed as well? Disco seems to be a bad launch vehicle in general.
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Axe-man posted:Pike's series is delayed isn't it and being downplayed as well? Disco seems to be a bad launch vehicle in general. The specific thing I am referencing is about 10 days ago when Paramount had their big conference to talk about the switch to Paramount Plus, and the suits specifically said that S31 is on indefinite hold because they are sticking with having 5 Trek shows in production at once (Disco, Picard, SNW, Lower Decks, and Prodigy, the kid's show that was originally going to be on Nickelodeon but is instead going to Paramount Plus).
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I'd love to go back a couple years and tell past me that there are going to be five concurrent Star Trek shows, and that I won't like or be interested in any of them. Oh and also warn everybody about the coronavirus.
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I enjoyed the Red Letter Media videos where they complained a lot about Discovery, so I went searching for more of those videos to watch on Youtube while folding laundry. BOY does that send you down an alt-right rabbit hole quickly! It's weird seeing a bunch of guys who are ostensibly Star Trek fans complain about diversity, considering that that was a huge part of Star Trek from the beginning.
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Cat Hatter posted:Even aside from this 100% correct take, are we assuming that Picard, who lives someplace that violently changes direction sometimes, has less respect for archaeology than Indiana "It Belongs In A Museum" Jones? The original is probably being studied by professionals while Picard keeps a replicated copy on his desk. We actually see it in Picard, it's being held in stasis in his room at the Starfleet Archive.
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Blastedhellscape posted:I enjoyed the Red Letter Media videos where they complained a lot about Discovery, so I went searching for more of those videos to watch on Youtube while folding laundry. BOY does that send you down an alt-right rabbit hole quickly! The "funny Star Trek video to Actual Sieg Heiling No Joke Nazi channel" YouTube pipeline is basically shaped like this 
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Just stick to RLM. And I absolutely agree with his challenge at the end of the Picard review. Make Picard gay drat it! Or any main character. For all it's progressive ideals LGBT themes are always where Trek has stumbled. Like at least the newer stuff has them, but these days you get no points unless it's the main character.
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It's amazing how many fans of the thing that on more than one occasion has been explicit about saying nazis are bad turn out to actually be nazis or at least fash-adjacent
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Tighclops posted:It's amazing how many fans of the thing that on more than one occasion has been explicit about saying nazis are bad turn out to actually be nazis or at least fash-adjacent
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I just watched Genesis, and a thing I really liked was how proud Worf was of his improved weapons and how completely uninterested Picard was.
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Nitrousoxide posted:
This is what happened in season 3??? The Emerald Chain was roughly an anti-Federation, and a better one than the Dominion was. It happily treated lives as property, had a policy of exploiting pre-warp worlds, but also had its own military and political structure. The writers didn't use it properly, but they did give the impression it was larger than the Federation.
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Payndz posted:They like the cool heavily-armed spaceships and the strong leaders who shoot aliens with ray guns and the military hierarchy where everyone has to do what they're told (while assuming that they'd be the ones giving the orders). Somehow they miss all the other stuff that frequently isn't even subtext but is right there upfront. It’s that Gundam meme only it’s the Enterprise instead.
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nine-gear crow posted:It’s that Gundam meme only it’s the Enterprise instead.
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As to Romulan artificial singularity, there's no reason to assume the Romulans in Disco use the same because it's never mentioned and I don't think it's expressly stated that Disco is in the Prime timeline.
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V-Men posted:As to Romulan artificial singularity, there's no reason to assume the Romulans in Disco use the same because it's never mentioned and I don't think it's expressly stated that Disco is in the Prime timeline. Discovery was announced to be in the Prime timeline right around the time that the first premise / story details were announced. That's one of the reasons the second season ended with Spock's absurd plan of "uh, okay, we're going to say the Discovery blew up, and we pinky swear not to discuss the Discovery, the spore drive or the batshit insane AI we just defeated with anyone, ever, under penalty of treason," it was to lampshade why the ship and its tech never came up in prior series. Edit: Pike also sees his destiny of going from original recipe to extra crispy, as opposed to dying in a conference room shootout straight out of The Godfather Part III. Discovery is Prime, not Kelvin. Timby fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Mar 6, 2021 |
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The characters in Season 3 even talk about the Kelvin timeline and mention how that it isn't them but it spawned from them.
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Nessus posted:What about the Giant Spock timeline? That's Prime. Actually the most prime of all timelines.
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Season 4 of Disco should have Giant Spock brief the Discovery crew of their next mission at the beginning of each episode, a la Mission Impossible.
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Prime Spock may have disappeared into a red-matter wormhole, but yeah, no reason why Giant Spock couldn't still be kicking about. More than enough Spock to go around!
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An impossibly large, bright red pulsar is spotted at the outer extremes of the known universe. After a season of madcap adventures, we discover it was Giant Spock in a giant flashing SPOCK helmet
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I wonder if any show will pick up the cut content that is Saavik and Spock's kid. Has that been done anywhere? Seems like you could have some good story with that.
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HopperUK posted:I wonder if any show will pick up the cut content that is Saavik and Spock's kid. Has that been done anywhere? Seems like you could have some good story with that. And she was meant to be the rando bridge officer stood next to Cpt. Frasier in Cause & Effect, but Kirstie Alley wanted more money than they could afford. Honestly I'm amazed nobody decided to pick up on the hinted Saavik and David relationship in Search for Spock and said she was pregnant with his kid. But that might be a bit too fanficy.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Apparently Saavik was meant to be half-Romulan, too, but that also got dropped. I could totally see that. And it felt like they were in some kind of relationship. Also I know she was originally meant to be Valeris but they couldn't even get her second actress back for that.
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Eimi posted:I could totally see that. And it felt like they were in some kind of relationship. Also I know she was originally meant to be Valeris but they couldn't even get her second actress back for that. I thought that was more that Nick Meyer didn't care for Robin Curtis's performance.
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