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Uh uhhh maybe she picked it up when she moved for school
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site posted:Uh uhhh maybe she picked it up when she moved for school Which college is on Staton Island again?
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Mar 7, 2021 03:27
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The one that exists on MCU staten island that she then transferred out of to go to Jane's school because no one wants to be on staten island
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Mar 7, 2021 03:28
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Things Hayward Did That You Get Arrested For:
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Skwirl posted:Which college is on Staton Island again? Wagner and CSI, which is a CUNY school
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Mar 7, 2021 03:29
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Alaois posted:Wagner Oh, those aren't bad. Still don't why Darcy would affect a Staton island accent if she didn't grow up with it.
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Mar 7, 2021 03:31
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CapnAndy posted:Things Hayward Did That You Get Arrested For: Those kids don’t exist.
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Aphrodite posted:Those kids don’t exist. Attempted murder of a fellow agent and drone strike on a suburb are pretty bad by themselves, ignoring the kids.
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Mar 7, 2021 03:33
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Skwirl posted:Oh, those aren't bad. Sometimes you pick one up without trying
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Mar 7, 2021 03:36
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CapnAndy posted:Things Hayward Did That You Get Arrested For: It's fine, he felt bad about it
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Mar 7, 2021 03:38
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CapnAndy posted:Things Hayward Did That You Get Arrested For: All of these would be acceptable in the real world.
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E: Nm joke doesn't work
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Mar 7, 2021 03:54
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Aphrodite posted:Those kids don’t exist. He didn't know that at the time. His one source of intel, Monica, told him the kids were real.
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Mar 7, 2021 04:09
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Did we ever find out what happened to the "beekeeper" dude or did she just wipe his rear end out of fuckin' existence?
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XboxPants posted:Did we ever find out what happened to the "beekeeper" dude or did she just wipe his rear end out of fuckin' existence? He popped up periodically in the town in background shots after that episode , he got integrated into the Hex.
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Did people get really mad there was no actual AIM connection or did they just get over it quickly?
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Retro Futurist posted:It's fine, he felt bad about it He doesn't have super powers so he has to go to jail. Also I don't think he felt bad about any of it.
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Dawgstar posted:Did people get really mad there was no actual AIM connection or did they just get over it quickly? I dunno about anyone else but I thought it was a fun little visual nod. I was just asking 'cause it seemed like something that Heyward and SWORD immediately put aside like it never happened, and if he died that would have been pretty lovely. I didn't get the impression he was particularly concerned with the wellbeing of his agents.
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Mar 7, 2021 05:17
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Vince MechMahon posted:If she's let totally off the hook for it in strange 2, then I'll agree that it's bad it didn't happen here or there. But I just don't think that's gonna happen. It’s not like the movies have a track record of doing exactly that or anything.
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ruddiger posted:It’s not like the movies have a track record of doing exactly that or anything. Remember that time Tony Stark gave murder drones to a high school student?
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Mar 7, 2021 05:38
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Skwirl posted:Remember that time Tony Stark gave murder drones to a high school student?
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CapnAndy posted:Sorry but I don’t, I’m still distracted from the time he built Ultron and then decided that the best repercussion for that would be for everyone else to be put under strict supervision with him in charge of it Tony's a fool, but I do appreciate that the conflict in Civil War (Tony not trusting anyone without oversight, Cap not trusting anyone to oversee things) directly comes from their past movies.
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This talk of old movies did remind me that I thought Wanda doing the old wibbly wobbly mind freak from back in AoU to Agatha was cool.
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Bruceski posted:Tony's a fool, but I do appreciate that the conflict in Civil War (Tony not trusting anyone without oversight, Cap not trusting anyone to oversee things) directly comes from their past movies. It's not that Tony doesn't trust anyone without oversight, it's that he wants to be able to shift the blame
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Vince MechMahon posted:Agatha's only crimes were killing a bunch of witches and trying to stop someone who was foretold to end the world. Is she a villain? Yeah I'm okay with episode 9 but I think that's what is kinda getting my goat about it. Not complaining TOO much. I loved the series. But up until the start of episode 9 Agatha could have been the hero. She's just been poking around Westview to test out whether Wanda is the Scarlett Witch and instead they gave her witch absorption powers. They could have written it so that Strange sent her to see what was going on and she accidentally got hexed along with everyone else the way that Spectrum did before slowly pulling herself out of it And they could have kept Agatha as being on the side of good....except that whole business with Sparky. This might be a dumb question but there's a moment when they're having their Dragonball Z witch fight thing in the air and Wanda does a gesture where she sorta crosses her legs and puts her head in her hands before disappearing and it reminded me of something. Does anyone know if that's a reference ? Mochiballs fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Mar 7, 2021 |
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Mar 7, 2021 06:30
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Skwirl posted:Remember that time Tony Stark gave murder drones to a high school student? Tony would have faced repercussions for this heinous action, but he was a bit busy during MCU Spider-Man 2.
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Mar 7, 2021 15:38
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Agatha wasnt trying to save the world, she was trying to drain Wanda's powers for her own use.
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I just watched the finale and I'm glad to see that people are talking about the big question I had too. I think the real answer, both narratively and in-universe, is that Hayward was arrested for being the Bad Guy. Also everyone who mocked me for predicting that the finale would have beam clashes and end with Wanda presented as just flat out the Good Guy owes me a dollar.
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Gripweed posted:I just watched the finale and I'm glad to see that people are talking about the big question I had too. I think the real answer, both narratively and in-universe, is that Hayward was arrested for being the Bad Guy. She was not presented as flat out the good guy, she still mind controlled a bunch of people who will hate her forever and was last shown reading an evil book after being prophecised to destroy the world with her power.
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Vince MechMahon posted:She was not presented as flat out the good guy, she still mind controlled a bunch of people who will hate her forever and was last shown reading an evil book after being prophecised to destroy the world with her power. The SWORD lady literally says "They will never know what you sacrificed for them" Wanda is the one who has to be like, "nah it's cool they have some reason to be a little upset with me". Before flying away to go train on a mountain because she has other stuff to do now. And the prophecy came from a literal evil witch. Whose argument Wanda rejected before defeating her. The evil witch was all "you are a horrible person who is going to destroy the world" and Wanda says "no I'm not" and defeats the evil witch and then gives up her perfect family in order to free the people of Westview.
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Gripweed posted:The SWORD lady literally says "They will never know what you sacrificed for them" Wanda is the one who has to be like, "nah it's cool they have some reason to be a little upset with me". Before flying away to go train on a mountain because she has other stuff to do now. Except she's now reading the evil book that the evil witch had that makes you evil when you read it.
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One thing I will commend about the series is that it does manage to avoid the pratfalls of the source material, where Wanda and her issues are ultimately treated very patronizingly and, like, paternalistically by all these characters around her who know better than her what's good for her, to the point that to this day we still get condescending writers writing condescending characters who condescend to her about what an pitiful idiot she was/is/will be. This show though...okay, maybe in some ways it leans a bit too far in the other direction, where it might have been better if someone did give her some tough love here...but we still got a very well-rounded, first-person exploration of her trauma and the character is treated like...well, like a grown-rear end woman who hosed up, yes, but doesn't need to be talked down to about it.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Except she's now reading the evil book that the evil witch had that makes you evil when you read it. The book doesn't make you evil. It's got the witch lore that Wanda needs so she can be a girlboss witch and not accidentally do Wandavision again.
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Mar 7, 2021 20:45
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Gripweed posted:The book doesn't make you evil. It's got the witch lore that Wanda needs so she can be a girlboss witch and not accidentally do Wandavision again. Isn't the darkholds entire gimmick that it's a necronomicon-esque forbidden tome that corrupts all who read it's cursed pages?
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Vince MechMahon posted:Isn't the darkholds entire gimmick that it's a necronomicon-esque forbidden tome that corrupts all who read it's cursed pages? They didn't say anything like that in the show.
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Gripweed posted:They didn't say anything like that in the show. I mean, she's not looking super heroic in that last shot but sure. Maybe they are just using the name and nothing else.
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Mar 7, 2021 21:09
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They are just using the name and there will be no connection to AoS.
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Mar 7, 2021 21:13
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Rhyno posted:They are just using the name and there will be no connection to AoS. Yeah but it existed in the comics first and was like the cursed book of Chthon and poo poo right?
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That's not an Agents of Shield thing. The Darkhold in the comics is a book of black magic created by Chthon that corrupts the souls of those who read it. Chthon and Wanda have a long history in the comics so they're very intently pointing in a certain direction and it's not a heroic one for Wanda.
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I assume it'll be typical Marvel Comics style "heroes battle due to misunderstanding, then team up to fight the true foe" thing. Strange and Wanda fight at the end of act 1, spend act 2 butting heads while Mordo/Cthon/whoever clowns on them, act 3 they get their poo poo together and I dunno, rescue America Chavez and Wanda's kids from the baddie by yelling Latin and wiggling their fingers at it.
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