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Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

I think being horny is cool, sometimes its even fantastic. Melting down at the mildest piece of fan service or gratuitous sexiness isn't very conducive to overall happiness.

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Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

What was that Cainhurst thing even? That felt predictable and boring and bad.

Don't do single player dlc.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


What?

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Fix posted:

What was that Cainhurst thing even? That felt predictable and boring and bad.

Don't do single player dlc.

The hell?

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON


I sorta ran through it and it was not interesting, story-wise. There was not a lot of variety in the mobs.

Maybe 5 things happening apart from the boss?

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Cainhurst isn't DLC it was in the original game

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Cainhurst isn't DLC it was in the original game

My mistake. It feels tacked on.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

Ah gently caress, this is where my fitting in dreams die, isn't it?

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


It's a scorching hot take that I've yet to see a single other person ever express. Good luck.

Redezga
Dec 14, 2006

YU-NO is the only game I've ever deemed too horny for my PS4, and that's as someone whose PS4 theme is from Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

My laptop crashed twice while trying to write bad Bloodborne takes. I hope this post gets through.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Redezga posted:

YU-NO is the only game I've ever deemed too horny for my PS4, and that's as someone whose PS4 theme is from Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash.

Well its literally a porn game with the sex scenes taken out for PS4 so lol

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Fix posted:

What was that Cainhurst thing even? That felt predictable and boring and bad.

Don't do single player dlc.

wtf???

Redezga
Dec 14, 2006

Sakurazuka posted:

Well its literally a porn game with the sex scenes taken out for PS4 so lol

Honestly it made it even more jarring because all the dialogue seemed to remain unchanged and never ever subtle. I had trouble playing as someone who seemed to lean so hard into horny being their "brand" in every single conversation with complete disregard for context.

I've been playing Sakura Wars lately and at least in that game being too horny is a choice and will directly tell you you're being too horny for your own good.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Cainhurst is very cool except those gnats/mosquito fuckers right at the beginning. Why are those so hard and the rest of the enemies are easy?

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Fix posted:

What was that Cainhurst thing even? That felt predictable and boring and bad.

Don't do single player dlc.

:blastu:

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

I just finished Spider-Man: Miles Morales and it was was awesome, I really loved it. I loooove those Spider-Man games. They really put me into that open world trance.

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

everyone knows im all in with MGSV defense but even this is making me :yikes:

anyway, you should have a put a bullet in quiet, the enemy sniper woman who has tried to kill you twice, when kaz told you to, instead of getting horny cos shes a woman with not much on. its the war without end and kojima called your bluff and knew that your deep horniness could not be contained, all the horny poo poo is on you and shes OP and makes each mission a cake walk, kojima laughed in your blind horny face and gave you the super easy mode you deserved you simp.

Vikar Jerome fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Mar 7, 2021

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Good

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

RareAcumen posted:

Different timestamps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphnqyCqYgI&t=639s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphnqyCqYgI&t=679s


Lots of great ideas being used in the worst ways. I remember it first showing up after you save Amanda from that kidnapper and being able to look at her broken leg.

big boss, ocelot and eva in their foxengine models... :negative: :negative: :negative: :negative:

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Castle Cainhurst is one of the best parts of Bloodborne :colbert:

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.
honestly, the whole of the bloodborne is the best bit of bloodborne.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

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fridge corn posted:

There is definitely a distinction between nudity and horny. It is possible to have nudity in games without it turning into fan service but I havent seen it yet.

I don't get the impression that Norman Reedus gets naked a lot in DS because Kojima is horny for him, or that it's fan service

There's a lot of games with nonhorny nudity

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Simone Magus posted:

I don't get the impression that Norman Reedus gets naked a lot in DS because Kojima is horny for him, or that it's fan service

There's a lot of games with nonhorny nudity

I wouldn’t make that assumption about Kojima personally

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

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CharlestheHammer posted:

I wouldn’t make that assumption about Kojima personally

I mean based on the evidence in the game. Sam is naked quite a few times in the game and it never feels sexualized at all.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
I assume that for the purposes of this conversation, we are talking about full frontal nudity, i.e. exposed breasts at least for female characters. I don't quite remember it, but is Norman ever shown nude below the waist level? I think it was always just the upper torso, enough to show off the hand-prints. For males, that basically doesn't count as nudity in most of Western society.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

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There's a full frontal naked guy in GTA4 that wasn't sexualized.

Full frontal male nudity is basically nonexistent in media because ratings boards are terrified of penises, especially erect ones.

I highly doubt there's a non-porn game in existence that shows erect dong.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Well, considering how practically the entirety of US society freaked out over a momentary nipple flash during that entire "nipplegate" situation, you can hardly blame them.

There are also frankly very, very few situations in which a depiction of engorged genitals, male or female, could be considered anything other than sexual. It's kinda part of the definition.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I mean if we are going that route the number off games that show actual tits are very small and usually the domain of stuff you have to go out and find.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
I mean, I think it's relevant to the subject. There's "nudity," as in, maybe showing some naked skin as far down as the butt from behind, and then there's actual nudity, and that is practically never shown in a non-sexual context. Where it is, such as in Outlast, it's clearly there to freak people out because oh no penis. The creators know their audience there.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

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I guess at the end of the day, as much as I think "ironic" horny posting (especially about Bowsette or whatever) is gross, I'm extremely nonplussed at actual horniness or sexuality in games. They're part of being human.

As pointed out earlier, it's only a problem if it's done in a way that makes you think "okay what weird fetishes did this game designer have"

Edit: and even then it's not always a problem, 2B for example

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
I think the entire situation is easy to sum in a single sentence: horniness is human, but so is taking a dump, and not everyone wants to watch someone else do that. Being uncomfortable with something is simply not subject to debate or criticism, because everyone has their sore spots and nobody wants theirs touched.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Simone Magus posted:

I mean based on the evidence in the game. Sam is naked quite a few times in the game and it never feels sexualized at all.

Yeah I forgot about Death Stranding. Couldn't possibly be a less sexy nude scene than one featuring Norman Reedus

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012
VG is streaming Dark Souls atm btw

https://www.twitch.tv/videogamessa

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
Its souls Sunday!

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

boop the snoot posted:

Castle Cainhurst is one of the best parts of Bloodborne :colbert:

It's just the ice level.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

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Cardiovorax posted:

I think the entire situation is easy to sum in a single sentence: horniness is human, but so is taking a dump, and not everyone wants to watch someone else do that.

While that's a good pithy quote, I think the difference is that almost literally nobody thinks of pissing or making GBS threads as anything other than a biological function.

Sex is almost never done as a biological necessity by most sane humans, there's always a "narrative" to it.

Like yeah, media doesn't usually show people picking their nose.

As humans, our sexuality is always bound up in our personality. Showing the way a person has sex or who they have it with will tell you something. Showing someone taking a poo poo probably won't.

I can think of lots of media with scenes of someone pissing or making GBS threads, but there's always something else going on - they're talking to someone or whatever. Or like the scene in Henry Fool where intense sudden diarrhea is used as a comic juxtaposition to a marriage proposal.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Regardless of how true that is or isn't, what is even your point there, exactly? That people who aren't comfortable with seeing sexual content in popular media should just get over themselves, or what? Because that wouldn't really be a good attitude to have.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Simone Magus posted:

I think the difference is that almost literally nobody thinks of pissing or making GBS threads as anything other than a biological function.

I see you are a newcomer to this thing called "the Internet."

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

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Cardiovorax posted:

Regardless of how true that is or isn't, what is even your point there, exactly? That people who aren't comfortable with seeing sexual content in popular media should just get over themselves, or what? Because that wouldn't really be a good attitude to have.

Well there is some degree of personal responsibility at work here. If you find sexual content of any kind whatsoever totally inappropriate for video games, or think of any female character with big boobs or hips as “horny”, there is always an opportunity to explore what is triggering you about those things and maybe learn a thing or two about yourself. “I don’t like curvy women in games because...” “I don’t like sex scenes or romance options in games BECAUSE...” etc. I think everyone should at least be able to finish those thoughts in a way that makes sense before passing judgment on sex or sexuality WRT gaming.

There are plenty of video game IPs without sex in them, for sure! But if you want to play popular prestige titles aimed at adults, like TLoU2, or Ghost of Tsushima, which had many plotlines centered around child abuse and molestation, there is gonna have to be some kind of internal reckoning where you figure out if games are actually too sexualized or if you yourself don’t have the same threshold for sexual themes as other people. That’s not your fault if you do! But it’s not the game’s fault, either.

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