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the book of giants was mostly known due to criticism of manicheans until recently, but it's an important book in the Dead Sea scrolls and may have been removed from the Bible due to its influence on manicheanism. it deals with the crazy half-angel kids who provoked the flood.
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drat, I love apocrypha and never heard of the book of giants, this sounds cool as hell
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are you sure you aren't conflating the book of enoch with the book of giants? e: huh apparently not
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Mar 5, 2021 04:34
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Ancient biblical apocrypha is so much cooler than modern apocrypha it isn't even funny Modern: BAD MEN RUN EARTH. GOOD MAN COME DOWN AND TAKE US AWAY FROM BAD MEN Ancient: humans and angels have hosed, the resulting offspring devoured the world and covered it in fire
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Mar 5, 2021 05:31
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Agean90 posted:Ancient biblical apocrypha is so much cooler than modern apocrypha it isn't even funny Classical: jesus fucks and also i slept with him
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Mar 5, 2021 06:05
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Jesus christ sucked off straight centurions
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Mar 5, 2021 06:06
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Early church schism between Jesohn and Lukohn shippers.
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Mar 5, 2021 07:29
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*borat voice* worthy of it
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Agean90 posted:Ancient biblical apocrypha is so much cooler than modern apocrypha it isn't even funny I love how a good bit of the apocrypha that we have was not excluded because it was theologically suspect, but because it was just really drat weird and the learned scholars of the age were afraid people would misinterpret it. I haven't read Book of Giants (yet) but it really seems to fit in with the that section of apocrypha that just makes you go "...oookay..." after reading it. Like, it isn't that it has a contradictory message from what became biblical canon, it just doesn't seem to have much of a point despite saying an awful lot.
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Mar 5, 2021 16:11
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vyelkin posted:drat, hedonistic, anti-natalist, and vegan? Sounds like Manicheanism is due for a comeback. That sounds a lot like Catharism, which did make a comeback but, uh, it did not go well.
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Mar 5, 2021 17:12
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Tulip posted:"Manicheanism" as a word in English can also mean reducing a conflict, or all conflicts, down to a simple moral binary. Kind of a synonym for "black-and-white reasoning." Yeah, I got that (I mean considering how often the secular still follows this absolute division of saved vs damned, good vs. evil, my objectively perfect politics vs. those people) Manicheanism is still very much with us today. I just wanted to check that "good and evil are popular concepts" that I wasn't missing out.
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Mar 5, 2021 18:58
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https://twitter.com/CSMFHT/status/1367741824434020353?s=19
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Mar 6, 2021 00:37
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sullat posted:That sounds a lot like Catharism, which did make a comeback but, uh, it did not go well. Apparently that was an intentional callback to vilify the Cathars. The real Cathars probably didn't really believe in the dualistic stuff and just challenged the power of the church.
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Mar 6, 2021 03:07
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I've got a question for all the history nerds here: is it true or just a myth that European monarchs would sometimes free all prisoners when coming into power? And what effect did this have on society?
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Mar 6, 2021 04:03
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https://twitter.com/the_mermae/status/1367625068264710147
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Mar 6, 2021 05:31
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What I like about that is that it implies Orpheus looked behind him because a hotter woman than Eurydice passed them on the way to Hades.
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Mar 6, 2021 05:54
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twoday hard at work day crew is a mess
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Azathoth posted:I love how a good bit of the apocrypha that we have was not excluded because it was theologically suspect, but because it was just really drat weird and the learned scholars of the age were afraid people would misinterpret it. Part of it was to explain pagan beliefs about demigods, etc. One of the nephilim was literally Gilgamesh. Also to explain how the people in charge of slave empires learned to such utter assholes.
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https://twitter.com/romanhistory1/status/1368295236280147973
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Mar 7, 2021 02:54
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https://twitter.com/ArtifactsHub/status/1368350328085606403
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Hell yeah. If it hasn't been linked before, https://the-world-that-was.blogspot.com/ does a lot of ancient (frequently Sumerian) recipes. I've tried a few, the applesauce and the palace cakes are pretty good.
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Mar 7, 2021 03:16
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Max Miller’s history and cooking channel is cool.
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It is but he's occasionally braindead when making some of the vaguer recipes. Especially the kykeon episode where he hosed it up at basically every stage. Using uncooked grain was a particularly  moment
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Mar 7, 2021 09:23
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I want to make Parthian chicken, but I haven’t gotten around to rustling up a whole chicken and all the uncommon ingredients it uses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LynenQ5h2Y
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Zedhe Khoja posted:It is but he's occasionally braindead when making some of the vaguer recipes. Especially the kykeon episode where he hosed it up at basically every stage. Using uncooked grain was a particularly I saw someone had a theory that a type of ancient Greek bread they called maza was eaten similarly to how tibetans prepare and eat tsampa from cooked barley, making it convenient on campaigns as you can simply mix it with water, wine or oil to eat on the go. It's a neat idea at least.
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Mar 7, 2021 09:45
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Tulip posted:Hell yeah. If it hasn't been linked before, https://the-world-that-was.blogspot.com/ does a lot of ancient (frequently Sumerian) recipes. I've tried a few, the applesauce and the palace cakes are pretty good. i just finished listening to the fall of civilizations episode on sumeria and the stew he mentions in the episode sounds tasty as gently caress tbh
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I made this recipe for roman dill chicken once with rabbit when I found some cheap rabbit meat and it was great also back in the old days the EU used to import cheap ostrich meat from South Africa sometimes (there is an embargo now) and I made some roman recipe from north africa with ostrich cooked in fig stew. Roman food is very good and tasty, and very different from most cuisine I have ever tasted. Things like asafoetida and lovage leaves or lovage seeds can be found in Persian or Indian shops. Fish sauce from south east Asia is a substitute for Garum (there is even a theory that it originated with the Phoenicians and spread to Asia via Phoenician/Roman maritime trade). The hardest thing to replicate is the various reductions of wine which they used, especially since they rely on very specific styles of wine which are very rare now (usually very sweet, or aged with raisins in them or something). The cookbook of Apicius is still available and filled with tons of recipes that anyone can try out. I think the thing I took away most from Roman cooking has to do with parsnips. They used to use them the way modern europeans use potatoes - boil em, mash em etc. And it was found that the roots of parsley grew larger and larger the further north you went, so they were important to the conquest of northern Gaul and Britain. Parsnip mash is really great! Also half potato/half parsnip mash. Pro-tip: when a recipe asks for chopped leeks to be sprinkled on top at the end, it refers to wild leeks which were much smaller back in those days; use green onions as a substitute. twoday has issued a correction as of 23:23 on Mar 7, 2021 |
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Mar 7, 2021 23:20
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I can't believe this is the first time I've heard of this religion.
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Clever Moniker posted:I can't believe this is the first time I've heard of this religion. which religion?
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twoday posted:I made this recipe for roman dill chicken once with rabbit when I found some cheap rabbit meat and it was great There's a recipe for Parthian chicken served with defructum out there on the internet that absolutely slaps. I highly recommend it.
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mycomancy posted:There's a recipe for Parthian chicken served with defructum out there on the internet that absolutely slaps. I highly recommend it. I politely demand you post this
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Nebakenezzer posted:I politely demand you post this https://followinghadrian.com/2014/01/17/a-taste-of-ancient-rome-pullum-particum-parthian-chicken-and-parthian-chickpeas/
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"You fuckmen" G.I.C.? More like G.B.S.!
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*tries to ignite arrows, shits toga*
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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:*tries to ignite arrows, shits toga* I've wondered how it would have felt being a Italian farmer when suddenly some centurio rides in, hands you a club, tells you're an auxiliary now and next thing you know you're fighting an elephant. Biggest thing you have seen is a bull and you know how dangerous that is.
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Fish of hemp posted:I've wondered how it would have felt being a Italian farmer when suddenly some centurio rides in, hands you a club, tells you're an auxiliary now and next thing you know you're fighting an elephant. Biggest thing you have seen is a bull and you know how dangerous that is. you complain for 100 years about it until your great grand kids launch the social war
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Fish of hemp posted:I've wondered how it would have felt being a Italian farmer when suddenly some centurio rides in, hands you a club, tells you're an auxiliary now and next thing you know you're fighting an elephant. Biggest thing you have seen is a bull and you know how dangerous that is. Good thing you can weaponize sad trombones.
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The auxilia were founded by Augustus. You may be thinking of the alae, the forces supplied by the Roman republic's Italian allies. Who I'm sure were mostly better armed than a club and were recruited or conscripted by local elites, atleast until the social wars.
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