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Applebees Appetizer posted:Leasing is great if you don't have an hour commute to work and back. Way too many miles for a lease. Yeah I’d look into leasing but I drive ~25k miles a year so it’s a non starter.
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Ok so apparently all the subarus have CVTs and the internet says the CVTs all explode at 100k and render the car worthless because of the insane cost of replacement. T/F?
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Mar 8, 2021 02:26
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Most CVTs are poo poo to tbh, but yeah Subaru has a bad rap with them. Apparently they have done better lately but the earlier models with CVTs were hot garbage. I would not tow with any car that had a CVT, that's just a bad idea imo.
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I ended up going with the Sportwagen, but when I was researching Foresters I saw that they were rated for 1500lbs of towing and I was definitely pressing X to doubt
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Leperflesh posted:Ok so apparently all the subarus have CVTs and the internet says the CVTs all explode at 100k and render the car worthless because of the insane cost of replacement. This is pretty much why I just eliminated Subarus from my search.
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Mar 8, 2021 05:47
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Leperflesh posted:Yup, it was suggested earlier I think, or I found it myself, but it seems to have exactly the same reliability/maintenance cost issues as the wagon. I would not consider Subarus to be significantly more reliable or cheaper to maintain. Maybe the parts and service are cheaper for Subaru than Volvo in the US? I don't know. Volvo are considered pretty much everymans daily drivers here so 
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Mar 8, 2021 11:14
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the new platform Volvos are some of the least reliable cars ever made - it makes sense because it was literally new everything due to decades of underinvestment - powertrain, chassis platform, electronics platform, ICE, sheet metal, etc and it's very hard to get that stuff right first go in isolation. Subaru definitely benefits from a Japanese halo effect. They're not Honda/Toyota reliable but somehow everyone thinks they are. I would probably not tow with a CVT.
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Mar 8, 2021 14:11
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I would probably not tow with a CVT. Why? Honestly curious idk. I mean, uh, obviously some cars aren’t rated for towing. But a 3000lb rated CVT vs Auto — what’s the difference?
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DNK posted:Why? Honestly curious idk. A decade of CVTs that don't last 60k without towing?
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Mar 8, 2021 14:31
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From a mechanical perspective, because the CVT is constantly adjusting ratios based on power demand, which is likely to change more when you are towing, which means wear on the belts and cones exacerbated by additional mass. CVTs are already fragile. They're fine for everyday driving for the most part at this point, but I wouldn't trust them to stand up to any sort of abuse because the track record has been really poor. I don't know if there's a way on the Subaru CVT to lock it out of overdrive ratios, but I suspect not unless you go for manual mode, which would also influence my decision there. Overdrive is the enemy of towing.
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Mar 8, 2021 15:18
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Looking at buying a used car in the near future and one of the options I'm considering are a used hybrid. I've never owned a hybrid before but have a coworker that swears by them (Toyota specifically). Anyone with any experiences with used (or new) hybrids? Is there anything in particular I should be looking at beyond what you'd normally check on a used car? Battery system eval, that kind of thing? Probably looking at a mid 2010s Toyota Camry hybrid if that narrows it down. Mainly going to be used as a daily commute car with occasional longer trips (once the pandemic is over).
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Mar 8, 2021 15:36
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The big thing with Hybrids is that the battery might cost a lot to replace/fix if it’s lovely or too old or whatever. In mine (I bought it new) it’d be like a $4k replacement, and it shockingly made sense for me to get the $800 extended warranty which applied for way, way longer than the expected longevity of the battery according to my internet research. I also really like my hybrid otherwise, especially how silent it is when running directly off the battery.
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Mar 8, 2021 15:43
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The odds of you actually needing to replace the Hybrid Synergy Drive battery in your car are low. The car works fine even with a highly degraded battery, you just will get slightly less fuel efficiency. A battery installed is roughly $2500 these days as costs for reman units have come down considerably. I would not pay $800 for an extended powertrain warranty, personally. Better to self insure.
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Also not all extended warranties cover the HV battery. When a friend of mine (who has The Worst Luck with reliable Toyotas) bought a used Prius at a Toyota dealer, they bought an extended warranty. They also had the HV battery fail and asked me for help. Handed me the warranty brochure, I scanned through it and pointed to where the salesperson had specifically circled the HV battery as a non-covered component. Luckily for them it was still barely within the emissions warranty.
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Mar 8, 2021 16:35
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:the new platform Volvos are some of the least reliable cars ever made - it makes sense because it was literally new everything due to decades of underinvestment - powertrain, chassis platform, electronics platform, ICE, sheet metal, etc and it's very hard to get that stuff right first go in isolation. For sure the new ones have had more issues but I think this is a bit hyperbolic. Anyways, looking at the OPs price range I was assuming we are talking about the older models, such as the XC70 I previously mentioned.
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Mar 8, 2021 19:57
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hey guys. haven't posted here in a while but i think i'm finally ready to take the plunge and buy the drat car, which is looking like either a toyota corolla or corolla hybrid. just curious, with all the new fangled features available in new cars nowadays, which ones are really important to have?
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Mar 8, 2021 20:08
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My personal opinion: Blind spot monitoring has saved me a handful of times, especially when I got a new, larger car and didn't have the blind spots internalized. Active cruise control is cool, but I haven't used it in a car enough to make it a must have (eg, commuting in stop and go traffic). The auto braking in my mom's Honda hasn't popped up at a time when I wasn't already paying attention, but it's benign and could see it being helpful. I've had lane keep assist be actively dangerous in the two cars I've driven with it and would probably keep it turned off most of the time if I had it in my car. VVVVV I have forward and reverse parking radar and it's way more useful to me than a backup camera and I actively miss it when driving Not My Car. VVVVV Uthor fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Mar 8, 2021 |
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Mar 8, 2021 20:18
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Mr Interweb posted:hey guys. haven't posted here in a while but i think i'm finally ready to take the plunge and buy the drat car, which is looking like either a toyota corolla or corolla hybrid. For me personally, it would be your preferred flavor of Apple Carplay or Android Auto and whatever driver safety nannies you can get (lane keeping, radar cruise, collision warning, etc). If your car has different headlight options, it's usually worth it to spring for the better ones. The rest is pretty much to taste, but parking assists and 360 cameras are always helpful so you don't curb your wheels. Edit: A HUD is loving amazing if you can swing it, but you normally only find them on luxury cars.
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Mr Interweb posted:hey guys. haven't posted here in a while but i think i'm finally ready to take the plunge and buy the drat car, which is looking like either a toyota corolla or corolla hybrid. I find adaptive cruise to be game changer. I feel much more relaxed and less tired while driving with it. The other driving assist features are for me less important. Adaptive or automatic high beams are nice. Parking cameras and assists are always helpful.
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Mr Interweb posted:hey guys. haven't posted here in a while but i think i'm finally ready to take the plunge and buy the drat car, which is looking like either a toyota corolla or corolla hybrid. Adaptive cruise control is amazing. Especially on long drives on the highway (doubly so in even moderate traffic). I hope to never have another car without it. I'm also very happy I have Android Auto. Never have to mess with crappy manufacturer UIs again. Can't speak to other stuff as that's about all my car has.
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Mar 8, 2021 20:29
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Adaptive cruise is a must-have feature on a new car, IMO. I don't even drive much and don't commute in a car, but I've had it on road trip cars (rentals and friends') and it's a game changer for dealing with the ebbs and flows of traffic and the piss poor lane discipline of American drivers.
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Mar 8, 2021 20:34
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Mr Interweb posted:hey guys. haven't posted here in a while but i think i'm finally ready to take the plunge and buy the drat car, which is looking like either a toyota corolla or corolla hybrid. Backup cameras are great, but I think now that is standard on cars purchased in the last 5 years. I didn't like lane assist in the rental Camry I drove for work--if you leave your lane without signaling, it would resist your turn, which can be dangerous in some cases (yeah, I know I should just always use my signals, but e.g. when you are passing someone on a not busy four lane divided highway they sometimes are a little superfluous). The people I have known who commute in stop-and-go traffic really like the automatic cruise control.
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Mar 8, 2021 20:36
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incogneato posted:I'm also very happy I have Android Auto. Never have to mess with crappy manufacturer UIs again. Frankly, this is because of how bad car UIs are, not how good Android Auto is. When it doesn't work, I find myself more angry and distracted than when using a "normal" UI. The voice controls that it prioritizes work as I expect them to about 50% of the time.
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Uthor posted:Frankly, this is because of how bad car UIs are, not how good Android Auto is. When it doesn't work, I find myself more angry and distracted than when using a "normal" UI. The voice controls that it prioritizes work as I expect them to about 50% of the time. The important part is they receive regular OTA updates instead of being obsolete after 2 years.
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Mar 8, 2021 20:41
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True. I really like my BMW interface, but they want me to pay like $100/year to get OTA map updates, at which point I may just do a full system swap for an AA unit despite knowing I like it less.
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Mar 8, 2021 20:53
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cool. what about heated seats? nice but unnecessary? my heater's been broken for a while so just having a functional one will probably be a godsend by itself.
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Mar 8, 2021 21:01
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Mr Interweb posted:cool. what about heated seats? nice but unnecessary? my heater's been broken for a while so just having a functional one will probably be a godsend by itself. the pro-est heated feature IMO is the heated steering wheel
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Adaptive cruise control loving owns. We rented a 2018 Camry a few years back to drive from Vegas to Northern CA, and driving for 12 hours in that thing was less mentally exhausting than driving 8 hours in our older Prius (or god forbid in my ancient Matrix). You don't realize how much energy it takes to make those frequent, tiny adjustments in speed until you're in a car that does that for you. Game-changing tech. You still need to pay attention and cover the brake in case something silly happens, but it's so much easier than manually adjusting standard cruise control because the person in front of you slowed by 1MPH and you're slowly creeping up on them.
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Mr Interweb posted:cool. what about heated seats? nice but unnecessary? my heater's been broken for a while so just having a functional one will probably be a godsend by itself. heated seats are nice if you have time for them to heat up before you get in the car (remote start is great for this). Heated steering wheel is amazing and i'm sad my car doesn't have it, each time I drive my dad's kia cee'd in the winter i wish mine had it. I love having adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring, rear crossing warning on my crosstrek. Lane-keeping assist on subaru eyesight is kinda ehhhh. The radar emergency braking has saved my bacon a couple times, definitely need it.
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my hot take on new car tech features, living in a place with seasons must-haves: adaptive cruise, heated seats, carplay/AA, lighting that isn't poo poo (lookup IIHS tests) nice-to-haves: heated steering, ventilated seats, blind spot monitors, 360 cameras, rain sensing wipers dont care/dont want: lane keep assist, sign recognition, driver attentiveness tracking, oem navigation system and at least in the usa i think all new cars have to have back up cameras these days, but you'll find a whole spectrum of quality ranging from "i'm just here so I don't get fined" to actual high quality cameras it's all subjective and up to you what you think is worth having or not, but certain things are really hard to give up once you've tasted them Guinness fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Mar 8, 2021 |
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KillHour posted:For me personally, it would be your preferred flavor of Apple Carplay or Android Auto and whatever driver safety nannies you can get (lane keeping, radar cruise, collision warning, etc). It may have changed now that Corollas are explicitly AirPlay-compatible, but I have to say that one of my least favorite quirks is the fact that the car immediately starts playing music whenever a Bluetooth device is connected. The other one is the fact that the cruise control tries way too hard to keep a constant speed, and sacrifices fuel efficiency in the process. Going down a slight, but long, incline? Prepare for sudden massive engine braking. Your adaptive cruise control is on and that slower driver in front of you finally exits or changes lanes? Prepare to jump to hyperspace.
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tagesschau posted:It may have changed now that Corollas are explicitly AirPlay-compatible, but I have to say that one of my least favorite quirks is the fact that the car immediately starts playing music whenever a Bluetooth device is connected. Seriously? This is something that happens on a $100 radio (in my tractor, I'm not kidding). It's pretty inexcusable at this point in an actual factory supplied system on a not-budget car. Does it also do the thing where it hijacks all bluetooth sources it's been paired with when it's been turned on so like, even if you were listening to something/on your phone with headphones and you turn the tractorcar on your podcast stops/it takes over your drat phone call?
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Or the other fun thing about older bluetooth systems--is sound delayed by like 3 seconds?
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luminalflux posted:rear crossing warning My mom’s Honda has this and it’s magic. It picks up cars from half way down the block with other cars parked on the street. Not sure how it does it.
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gwrtheyrn posted:Or the other fun thing about older bluetooth systems--is sound delayed by like 3 seconds? My '13 CR-V did this and it made any sort of voice interaction absolutely useless on iPhone or Android. Before I used it, I would have called Android Auto / Carplay support a luxury. Once I used it on a rental, I'll never buy a newer car without it, given the choice. Adaptive cruise is very nice, though any implementation I've tried (admittedly not many) hasn't quite been good enough for me to make it a must-have. However, the one thing that could get me to trade in my Canyon before I've run it into the ground would be that exact same truck but with GM's supercruise.
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Guinness posted:Adaptive cruise is a must-have feature on a new car, IMO. I don't even drive much and don't commute in a car, but I've had it on road trip cars (rentals and friends') and it's a game changer for dealing with the ebbs and flows of traffic and the piss poor lane discipline of American drivers. I'm with you. My wife's CX-5 has it, and it's been a game changer. Stop and go is effortless. I'll never purchase a daily that doesn't have it. I'm waiting to buy a new truck until they install it and it does full speed control (as in, it'll stop the vehicle fully). I live in a vacation destination and the traffic in the summer is awful. I live near Boston, too. It also means that when my wife drives an hour to and from Boston at night, I don't have to worry nearly as much. Cross traffic alert is amazing as well. New cars have such poor sightlines that it's basically required. I try to back into parking spots as much as possible, but they doesn't work in all places. Blindspot monitoring, same thing. New cars have such poor visibility that it's super useful. Backup camera, yup. Glad it's required. Most people as terrible at backing up, and the camera helps. Rear parking sensors are great too, it's weird the Mazda doesn't have them. Heated seats are nice, but not required. Heated steering wheel is nice on my mom's Volvo, but hardly a requirement. Auto climate control is also a nice-to-have feature.
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so i was gonna think about getting a standard corolla, but the corolla hybrid is lookin' mighty fine and comes with a lot of the stuff you guys already mentioned (plus it saves me from having to decide which trim to get). thoughts?
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Mr Interweb posted:so i was gonna think about getting a standard corolla, but the corolla hybrid is lookin' mighty fine and comes with a lot of the stuff you guys already mentioned (plus it saves me from having to decide which trim to get). Drive it and see if you like it. It's your car.
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Mr Interweb posted:so i was gonna think about getting a standard corolla, but the corolla hybrid is lookin' mighty fine and comes with a lot of the stuff you guys already mentioned (plus it saves me from having to decide which trim to get). What's your reason for looking into the hybrid?
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Deteriorata posted:Drive it and see if you like it. It's your car. don't hand over all the responsibility of buying a car to me D: mariooncrack posted:What's your reason for looking into the hybrid? mostly to save gas. the additional goodies that come standard are really nice icing, tho
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