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alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

I also really appreciate all these choice examples of failing entryism into the blue wing of the capitalist party that are happening like every day this month. thank you

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Eggplant Squire posted:

I'm thinking of joining khive since it would be nice to be on the winning team for once and they are right that Bernie Sanders absolutely sucks.

nobody who isn't in the donor class is on the winning team, they're just delusional

and they know it, it's why they're still so mad about absolutely everything

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

mcmagic posted:

I don't think the 15 dollar minimum wage is either a perceived or real threat to capital or that there is any big donor opposition to it. How thin skinned and stupid they are just means that if they viewed it as a real threat, Biden would not have even been allowed to run on it in the election. It just ended up being SUPER easy for Biden to abandon it which is the issue.

the capital class actually recognizes itself as a class and operates collectively in their own class interest. they don't do this stuff because they don't "perceive" it or don't think it's a threat or whatever and it just happens because of our decrepit sundowning president or cultural mores or whatever the gently caress. it's because it's bad for the capitalist class and the capitalist class KNOWS this and so they'll do whatever it takes to both stop it and keep us from recognizing our class identity. we don't, and this is why we keep getting hosed, because we're not in a class war, we're in a class murder

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


loquacius posted:

nobody who isn't in the donor class is on the winning team, they're just delusional

and they know it, it's why they're still so mad about absolutely everything

Yeah it's funny how miserable they are despite getting everything they claim to want (other than Neera at the hands of a Senator they previously were defending lol)

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


that man sure is looking foolish with his pants on the ground

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1369095436179496960

Oh no, please don't give up your positions of power and leave them to be filled by socialists. The horror. Whatever will we do without you?

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

they also took all the money didnt they

witchy
Apr 23, 2019

one step forward one step back

PostNouveau posted:

https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1369095436179496960

Oh no, please don't give up your positions of power and leave them to be filled by socialists. The horror. Whatever will we do without you?

better to reign in hell than serve in heaven

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

HallelujahLee posted:

they also took all the money didnt they

and instantly started their own organization yea

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

HallelujahLee posted:

they also took all the money didnt they

:lol: yeah they loving did. They gave themselves severance checks on the way out the door and moved hundreds of thousands of dollars over to the DSCC.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


HallelujahLee posted:

they also took all the money didnt they

Yeah and it's pretty clear they are setting up the Ancient Order of the Not Democrats to gently caress with the people that took over but on the flip side it's been made abundantly clear that there is no compromise to be had with the people that run the Democrats so it's probably a net positive to not having the money but losing the guys trying to slash the tires from within.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

loquacius posted:

nobody who isn't in the donor class is on the winning team, they're just delusional

and they know it, it's why they're still so mad about absolutely everything

one of the funny/interesting things of the past few months has been watching the khive travel the exact same path as the 2016 trump voters did coming off their win against hillary (obama, really). Our guy won girl got the vp slot! We've been validated! Now you have to recognize that we were right and you have to love our politician like you loved obama sanders.

wait why aren't you doing that

no you're not allowed to still hate him her. WE won! this isn't fair!


anyway very excited to see the psychotic quasireligious movement that comes out of the khivers in late 2022. Trump as demiurge instead of the deep state cabal, almost certainly some Russia stuff. Get your grifts ready because it's going to be easy money.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

lol loving democrats and any idiot that says to work with them in any capacity

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Btw the fiscal year starts in September, so we are only spending more than the first 6 months of the pandemic.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Eggplant Squire posted:

Yeah and it's pretty clear they are setting up the Ancient Order of the Not Democrats to gently caress with the people that took over but on the flip side it's been made abundantly clear that there is no compromise to be had with the people that run the Democrats so it's probably a net positive to not having the money but losing the guys trying to slash the tires from within.

Yeah, it sucks, but you can make do without the money. If those fucks are still hanging around the organization, they'll be Corbyning you at every turn.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

PostNouveau posted:

Yeah, it sucks, but you can make do without the money. If those fucks are still hanging around the organization, they'll be Corbyning you at every turn.

you, uh, you can't make do without money, no

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
'you can make due without money' ~ someone's genuine view of the american political system apparently.

The big voting rights bill the house pushed through literally has a major increase in the cost to run for office solely to punish third parties for existing

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

the fact that they are willing to make another org to deliberately destroy the other one should be thrown at every shitlib everytime they claim something about working with the system.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Excelzior posted:

the vaush-to-fash pipeline

the kind of fash vaush brings over from 4chan are then turned into the kind of anarchists and libs that are basically indistinguishable from fash in everything but a small handful of domestic issues

same temperament, they still hate the same people they always did, but they just call them tankies now instead of "jews" or "women"

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

sexpig by night posted:

you, uh, you can't make do without money, no

looks like they need to go do some fundraisers from all the rich corporations in vegas

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

PostNouveau posted:

https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1369095436179496960

Oh no, please don't give up your positions of power and leave them to be filled by socialists. The horror. Whatever will we do without you?

struggle to pay the bills they're now on the hook for

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

struggle to pay the bills they're now on the hook for

lol why would you even pay for it

"not my problem"

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

gradenko_2000 posted:

lol why would you even pay for it

"not my problem"

because vendors signed contracts with the state party which they now are

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheOvalPawffice/status/1369137556013645824

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

(!) This report has not been verified by official sources

alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

lmao that that psychopath had to slap Fans on their name

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1369052809480572928

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

gradenko_2000 posted:

lol why would you even pay for it

"not my problem"

because these people have contracts with the state party org not with individuals, so it absolutely is their problem

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1369287658162319371

wait yangs the frontrunner but hes not actually on the ballot yet?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

sexpig by night posted:

you, uh, you can't make do without money, no

You can make do without THAT money specifically. You can raise money with the Democratic Party seal now.

Dreadwind
Dec 1, 2009



Raskolnikov38 posted:

because vendors signed contracts with the state party which they now are

What would happen if they can't pay the bills? Does the Nevada Democratic Party (TM) just declare bankruptcy and cease to exist? Do the new elected officials face any repercussions other than getting screamed at by "Real" Democrats? Honestly curious what would happen.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

sexpig by night posted:

because these people have contracts with the state party org not with individuals, so it absolutely is their problem

this is like a Political Party of Theseus issue

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

PostNouveau posted:

You can make do without THAT money specifically. You can raise money with the Democratic Party seal now.

except harry reid et al is going to be telling anyone other than small donors to give to the new party they're forming instead

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010


"we need you to understand us better when we tell you to die for applebee's"

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

PostNouveau posted:

You can make do without THAT money specifically. You can raise money with the Democratic Party seal now.

until the dems start raising money with the same seal but with a gold fringe saying they're the real democrats, with the backing of all the major donors and power brokers to support them

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

gradenko_2000 posted:

this is like a Political Party of Theseus issue

it literally isn't, I'm begging you to understand what a contract is

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Raskolnikov38 posted:

except harry reid et al is going to be telling anyone other than small donors to give to the new party they're forming instead

I'm not saying it'll be easy, but at least you can give it an honest attempt rather than deal with sabotage from inside the organization.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
'we have a contract with 'The Democratic Party of Nevada' for this money, you owe it to us as the head of that group'

'ah but we're not the ones who signed that'

'it's with the organization not the last head, give us our money'

(Also you get that the people we're talking about are usually like, normal working class people right? Weird look to think the first order of business for socialists should be to screw them Trump style)

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

I don't know, I hope they aren't hosed from the outset. I'm surprised it's legal for them to just abscond with half a million dollars

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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005


hurray, finally the bill and melinda gates foundation will get the money they need to make their ideas work!

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