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does xi jinping ever have to answer press questions on what to do about america's border concentration camps or our prisons full of minorities
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iirc China releases a report every year about how much the US sucks in response to the billion white papers about how evil the PRC is
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Mar 9, 2021 16:26
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can we ban everyone who defended the bolivian coup
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THS posted:can we ban everyone who defended the bolivian coup who did that?
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Did they find evidence for the millions of deaths in China that wasn't one of the 8 people that religious nutter interviewed? I look forward to some clarity on this issue.
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there is such an obvious and concerted propaganda war against china right now and it is only going to get worse as china’s economy becomes larger that the US. wonder what the range of acceptable opinions will be in a few years. the bounds of what seems normal to punish will shift. apologists for US imperialism, which kills and oppresses many more people, will be unchecked of course
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THS posted:there is such an obvious and concerted propaganda war against china right now and it is only going to get worse as china’s economy becomes larger that the US. wonder what the range of acceptable opinions will be in a few years. the bounds of what seems normal to punish will shift. apologists for US imperialism, which kills and oppresses many more people, will be unchecked of course at least in c-spam we can still speak the truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKbEaZ-Jnws e: lmao what the gently caress they won't show the video?? holy poo poo
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Flavius Aetass posted:who did that? “How are u” for one, but im not going back to try and unearth all the dogshit discussion because i dont keep a bad-posts.xlsx spreadsheet. are you really questioning there were coup defenders on SA? did you read any of the latin america or geopolitics thread at the time? and you are missing my point anyway, about what is acceptable opinions about mass death and what are unacceptable opinions about mass death. it weirdly lines up with an american state dept point of view
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anyway just to clarify the line, because it will continue to get more complicated as this ramps up in the news cycle, it is the position of the mod team that what has been happening in Xinjiang province for decades is akin to cultural genocide and that it is Really Bad to deny that. someone who does not have 4 bans in two months will probably not be treated the same as someone who does. that bring said, a post like gradenko's which limits itself to criticism of a particular source, is not something that I would take moderation action on
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For real it seems super easy to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. We're talking about millions of people and the entire western world in a concerted effort to prove they exist, so I'm sure solid evidence is coming any day now and we can put this behind us.
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THS posted:can we ban everyone who defended the bolivian coup the venezuela thread was pretty wild, flat out denial of the attempted coup and then operation gideon happened
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Mar 9, 2021 16:42
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THS posted:“How are u” speaking of dipshits that should be forum banned from cspam, why haven't you mods forum banned how r u and gaupo gaucho
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Raskolnikov38 posted:speaking of dipshits that should be forum banned from cspam, why haven't you mods forum banned how r u and gaupo gaucho
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Flavius Aetass posted:anyway just to clarify the line, because it will continue to get more complicated as this ramps up in the news cycle, it is the position of the mod team that what has been happening in Xinjiang province for decades is akin to cultural genocide and that it is Really Bad to deny that. someone who does not have 4 bans in two months will probably not be treated the same as someone who does. what is the position of the mod team on inner mongonlia
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im glad we have two bellingcat ppl with accounts what is the line for agitating for the united states to bomb syria
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Flavius Aetass posted:anyway just to clarify the line, because it will continue to get more complicated as this ramps up in the news cycle, it is the position of the mod team that what has been happening in Xinjiang province for decades is akin to cultural genocide and that it is Really Bad to deny that. someone who does not have 4 bans in two months will probably not be treated the same as someone who does. are there any more positions of the mod team we should be aware of? Flavius Aetass posted:that bring said, a post like gradenko's which limits itself to criticism of a particular source, is not something that I would take moderation action on very generous, thank u
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Raskolnikov38 posted:speaking of dipshits that should be forum banned from cspam, why haven't you mods forum banned how r u and gaupo gaucho realtalk that's a fair question I think it is important to seize the opportunity that the occasional trolling affords to make some fine rear end quality posts for the benefit of the greater audience. However, when regulars eat probes for stuff that in comparison is rather tepid/ambivalent, makes seem somewhat disproportionate like, yeah, I do think using the r-word is not cool because the comrades I work with/know from that front feel it is punching down and, given the particularity of their shared conditions, they are not necessarily able to do something about it like us queers did and still do. but if the rule keeps being enforced the way it has been, well, ought to bring the hammer down far harder and faster in lots other subjects too (step the gently caress up with the vanguard that's what I am saying)
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a propos this note, is there a systematic justification for the 'x-word' method of self-censorship? i understand that it's basically a matter of politeness and i don't really have an issue with that, but i sincerely don't understand if there's a deeper theoretical justification for it (imo it absolutely seems as though there should be from how it's enforced, but idgi)
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Flavius Aetass posted:anyway just to clarify the line, because it will continue to get more complicated as this ramps up in the news cycle, it is the position of the mod team that what has been happening in Xinjiang province for decades is akin to cultural genocide and that it is Really Bad to deny that. someone who does not have 4 bans in two months will probably not be treated the same as someone who does. okay, so you're just following orders. fyi, ACAB
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Serf posted:are there any more positions of the mod team we should be aware of? I know you think that this is a mod inserting himself unnecessarily but that post got reported, like most of that type do, and we have to make a decision. There's no way to please everyone in this forum, sorry.
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Flavius Aetass posted:I know you think that this is a mod inserting himself unnecessarily but that post got reported, like most of that type do, and we have to make a decision. There's no way to please everyone in this forum, sorry. so your decision with every gaupo and how r u post is: "this is fine and good actually"
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Flavius Aetass posted:I know you think that this is a mod inserting himself unnecessarily but that post got reported, like most of that type do, and we have to make a decision. There's no way to please everyone in this forum, sorry. i don't particularly like china, i have no dog in this fight. it's not really about the post its about what is within the acceptable bounds of posting. can we still correctly identify what is being done to the palestinians as apartheid? if the mod team has positions on subjects like these we should know about them. seems only fair to me
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Raskolnikov38 posted:so your decision with every gaupo and how r u post is: "this is fine and good actually" the mod of coupons is fine with those posts that's ultimately all that matters
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Flavius Aetass posted:anyway just to clarify the line, because it will continue to get more complicated as this ramps up in the news cycle, it is the position of the mod team that what has been happening in Xinjiang province for decades is akin to cultural genocide and that it is Really Bad to deny that. someone who does not have 4 bans in two months will probably not be treated the same as someone who does. i do appreciate that it's a complicated topic but also this is ultimately an editorial line and that's really funny ultimately one doesnt want to apologize for a potential genocide. it's sort of understandable to be more comfortable apologizing for a potential propaganda campaign, on the balance. however, that is a surface level take which i would hope falls apart on examination: it's not excusable to do either. you have to form an actually, not performatively, nuanced opinion which gives weight to the people killed by convenient acceptance of propaganda and the immense cognitive distortion created by a proper propaganda campaign otoh lazy dismissal of the allegations doesnt really cut it either imo. sadly, proper propaganda forces a response, you cant just high (and/or low) mindedly dismiss it imo Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Serf posted:i don't particularly like china, i have no dog in this fight. it's not really about the post its about what is within the acceptable bounds of posting. can we still correctly identify what is being done to the palestinians as apartheid? if the mod team has positions on subjects like these we should know about them. seems only fair to me that does seem fair. i didn't mean to make it seem like that was an official ruling, like we all decide how we feel about certain topics, but Xinjiang in particular is something that has been discussed at length because we felt our responses should not be wildly different from mod to mod. the difference imo is that genocide is a topic that gets people screaming for permabans, and not just your standard d&d types. it really is in everyone's best interest for C-SPAM to not be seen as the genocide-denying forum, but I understand there is a lot of nuance to all of this and I try not to jump the gun on anything.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:so your decision with every gaupo and how r u post is: "this is fine and good actually" my personal opinion on them is that every good show needs a heel
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personally i see c-spam as the genocide acknowledging forum. nowhere else can we so freely post about the plight of the world's oppressed majority, ground down and exploited under the boot of the usaFlavius Aetass posted:my personal opinion on them is that every good show needs a heel boosted was a good heel. iirc he never told anyone to kill themselves. he just wouldn't wear the hat if you're gonna moderate you need to identify who is just having good fun and who is genuinely harmful
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Raskolnikov38 posted:so your decision with every gaupo and how r u post is: "this is fine and good actually" If only they'd once chain probed a c-spam mod we wouldn't have to worry about them
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i sometimes wonder whether, in the final heady days of trump, boosted might have wore the hat
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Flavius Aetass posted:the difference imo is that genocide is a topic that gets people screaming for permabans, and not just your standard d&d types. it really is in everyone's best interest for C-SPAM to not be seen as the genocide-denying forum, but I understand there is a lot of nuance to all of this and I try not to jump the gun on anything. this is illustrative for the actual topic of the thread there's no nuance here, only execution of power because no one is going to be banned for supporting israel or bombing syria
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Brain Candy posted:this is illustrative for the actual topic of the thread emptyquote why is support of israel not bannable
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hell, why is support of america not bannable? if you're looking for the nation that is responsible for more suffering and death than any other, its this one right here. seems like supporting the usa should be one of the most heinous positions of all
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are you asking rhetorically or, if you were a mod, would you ban people for those things?
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Flavius Aetass posted:are you asking rhetorically or, if you were a mod, would you ban people for those things? hell yeah i'd kill baby hitler i think we're clearly pointing out how power dynamics work even down to a dead gay comedy forum
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Flavius Aetass posted:are you asking rhetorically or, if you were a mod, would you ban people for those things? i would never be a mod
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Serf posted:i would never be a mod also that. let a hundred flowers bloom
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i say swears online posted:emptyquote
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i say swears online posted:hell yeah i'd kill baby hitler  i say swears online posted:i think we're clearly pointing out how power dynamics work even down to a dead gay comedy forum
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