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I have mixed feelings about this past episode but it was okay enough. Laura walking away, Gungnir over her shoulders and just casually remarking that she's off to kill Wednesday was peak Laura.
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That has to be the strangest possible musical choice for a big gay orgy.
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Kung Food posted:That has to be the strangest possible musical choice for a big I really liked bits of this episode a lot. Particularly Salim getting closure and accepting himself, and Laura at the end being Peak Laura as mentioned. I wonder if the preview implies they're gonna be able to wrap it all up?
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Malpais Legate posted:Regarding your spoilers, all the gods are American gods. The little prequel bits in the show are supposed to indicate the ways that the gods "arrived" in America, like how the vikings burned their offering to Odin on the shores or when Anansi crawls ashore from the wreckage of a slave ship. That's the worship of them creating the new, American versions. The book calls these little interludes "Coming to America" chapters, it's where Salim and the Djinn are introduced too. Unfortunately, the show doesn't convey this very well. If the show continues to follow the book, Shadow will meet the original Norse Odin anyway, and ask him about Wednesday: "He was me, yes. But I am not him."
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The more I stew on it, the more I think gently caress this season. Belqis: Promiscuity is bad, and something shameful that was forced upon you by men. It is impowering to reject this. Salim: gently caress shame, promiscuity is good and impowering. Also lets set it to the cringiest background music possible. These opinions brought to you by the showrunner who fired Orlando Jones because "Mr. Nancy’s angry, get sh*t done (attitude) is the wrong message for black America" 
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Mar 9, 2021 08:35
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Got to hand it to Laura, she doesn't let anything stop her in the end and is stubborn to the bitter end. Maybe a God should make her a war Goddess? Then again I suppose you could say Mr. World already sorta did. Maybe she'll get a reputation among the magical and get elevated into her own deity? I mean if peoples beliefs can make Gods why can't Gods beliefs make other Gods? It's not like there hasn't been stories of humans who transcended their mortal shell and she's come back from the dead. I mean it certainly gave Jesus a rep didn't it?
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That episode had some really good bits for me. Belqis as technical boy's subconscious was really good, I'm a real fan of actors mimicking each other and doing a good job of all the little mannerisms. I thought Laura on the bridge at the end was a really great performance, honestly the character doesn't get an enormous range due to her perpetual sarcasm but that scene was really convincing.Kung Food posted:The more I stew on it, the more I think gently caress this season. I don't know what to think about this and I'm not qualified at all, but I have a friend who's gay and he would complain a lot about how often being happy and gay is equated to fetish orgies and sex parties. It's not something I've given a whole lot of thought to but that scene really brought that to mind. I guess different people find different things empowering so it's a difficult balance to strike. I assume that LGBT people are involved in the writing/directing of this stuff though, or at least consulted about its tone.
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Chalks posted:That episode had some really good bits for me. Belqis as technical boy's subconscious was really good, I'm a real fan of actors mimicking each other and doing a good job of all the little mannerisms. I thought Laura on the bridge at the end was a really great performance, honestly the character doesn't get an enormous range due to her perpetual sarcasm but that scene was really convincing. Lol at the idea they consult people, when they went into their second season needing Orlando Jones to write just to get scripts on time.
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I feel like a show about all the behind the scenes stuff would be more interesting than the actual show.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I feel like a show about all the behind the scenes stuff would be more interesting than the actual show. Agreed. If this were a sport, I'd be waiting for the 30 for 30 to come out
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I feel like a show about all the behind the scenes stuff would be more interesting than the actual show. Orlando Jones has been pretty open about how lovely he was treated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTJwCN7AS6g This really put this season's kinder, more gentle African gods into perspective for me. Kung Food fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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Chalks posted:
This was my feeling on it as well. To me it felt really pandering and like someone thought the orgy scene from Eyes Wide Shut was the peak of eroticism.
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To be honest it was way nicer than most of the actual gay orgies I've been to.
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Loomer posted:To be honest it was way nicer than most of the actual gay orgies I've been to. Mad invite bro.
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So far this role seems like a waste of Iwan Rheon’s talent. Toward the end I thought for sure that dead wife was going to throw the spear at mr. world, but that would have been too interesting I guess. I hope they aren’t planning on killing Wednesday, I don’t think the show can go on without Ian McShane.
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they fired anansi. i don't think they care.
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I have thoughts on the episode. So did the whole town know that Ann was the killer/mystic creature that was helping the town? The sheriff knew since he went right to her home. It seems weird that the town would be so friendly with her if they knew that she was you know, killing people even if it was to help them unless she was making them forget. Speaking of killing people, how does it make the town prosperous if you are killing members of it's teenage populace randomly every few years? Seems the opposite of prosperity. More a curse. Did Doyle turn down killing Laura because he saw her and fell for her immediately leading to him suggesting Sweeney? Starting to think so. Could explain why he's helping her, that or he wants to know what was Sweeneys friendship with her but betting on the whole love angle. A Leprechaun lucky coin, how powerful does that make a person to have? Lucky as hell sure but what happens if a God got it? A super lucky God sounds like a bad thing, which makes you wonder why others haven't hunted them down for their coins. Or maybe it's less beneficial for Deitys? When she threw the spear at the portrait of the last supper did it erase Jesus? I could have sworn he was gone when it hit. Maybe just couldn't pick him out on the tablet. Shadow is going to become the God of Winter right? Why he could make it snow and keeps seeing ice forming on things to help give him clues right? Is that part of some foresight/Godsight? Maybe he has some other tricks. There is a problem with Wednesday going to make a truce with the new Gods, namely it feels like he really hasn't gotten many for his cause. Mainly due to the cast going but it really feels like he is pretty much right back to step one, maybe two despite everything that's happened. Are we still getting more Crispin Glover? I had thought he was gone due to all the behind the scenes turmoil so was surprised that he showed up again.
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I liked the resolution of Hinzelmann's arc. In the book it felt a little weird to have it set after the climax. I wish that they had gone a little further into Hinzelmann being a God before she was a Kobold and the whole deal with the sacrifice vision Shadow had when he grabbed the knife. The passage from the book about that was haunting. I'm curious if Shadow managed to hang on to the coin, and if it has protective magic like the gold and silver ones he had from Sweeny and Zorya Polunochnaya. That seems a theme with the show.
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The Last Call posted:Shadow is going to become the God of Winter right? Why he could make it snow and keeps seeing ice forming on things to help give him clues right? Is that part of some foresight/Godsight? Maybe he has some other tricks. Book spoilers: Shadow is Balder
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Klungar posted:Book spoilers: Shadow is Balder No, they definitely went the other way this season he has way more hair
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iv46vi posted:No, they definitely went the other way this season he has way more hair To be fair, I haven't watched the show since the end of the first season, if they are diverting from the book on that matter I can't help you there. e: Nevermind, you were making a joke, lol.
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The Last Call posted:I have thoughts on the episode. They all had a back of the mind itch that something was wrong. but they buried it because isn't my little slice of small town Americana so swell? The book was written in 2001, right at the height of the economic decimation of the rust belt so it went more in depth about how the entire surrounding area was falling into crushing poverty because of the exodus of American manufacturing, except for this one quaint jewel that prospered. Said prosperity was because of Hinzelmann, and that Lakeside would suffer the same fate without her. This arc ends in a rather dower note because now that she is gone the town's continuing fortune is over and Lakeside is destined to fall into the same decline as the surrounding towns. The teen sacrifice is akin to ye olden cultures that perform sacrifices for bountiful harvests or some such, but replace wheat with small town charm. In the show the reason the sheriff dues ex machinaed into her house is a good ol' fashioned plot hole, just some bog standard bad writing. In the book she overheard Shadow talking to him about what he had found and attacked. quote:Did Doyle turn down killing Laura because he saw her and fell for her immediately leading to him suggesting Sweeney? Starting to think so. Could explain why he's helping her, that or he wants to know what was Sweeneys friendship with her but betting on the whole love angle. A Leprechaun lucky coin, how powerful does that make a person to have? Lucky as hell sure but what happens if a God got it? A super lucky God sounds like a bad thing, which makes you wonder why others haven't hunted them down for their coins. Or maybe it's less beneficial for Deitys? My take is he didn't want to kill her because it was a monstrous job and he is helping her because that garbage person destroyed my coin so gently caress him. Also he might be a bit sweet on Laura. As for Gods with a coin, Mad Sweeny was a proper god in his own right. He was mother loving Lu, which if you know Celtic mythology at all means he was an All Father type and their equivalent of Zeus or Odin. Which makes his god story one of the sadder ones, because first the Christians came and demoted all the Celtic gods to kings/heroes, (They wanted to keep the traditions and folk lore but couldn't abide other gods) then over time they were further demoted to spirits and fey creatures, and the final disgrace they became whatever General Mills made them. Doyle probably has a buried place in the Celtic pantheon as well. Oh and its been pretty well established that the coins can only be given, not taken, and leprechauns usually have them safely stored in their vaults, so no point in other gods hunting them. quote:There is a problem with Wednesday going to make a truce with the new Gods, namely it feels like he really hasn't gotten many for his cause. Mainly due to the cast going but it really feels like he is pretty much right back to step one, maybe two despite everything that's happened. Kung Food fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Mar 17, 2021 |
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Kung Food posted:They all had a back of the mind itch that something was wrong. but they buried it because isn't my little slice of small town Americana so swell? The book was written in 2001, right at the height of the economic decimation of the rust belt so it went more in depth about how the entire surrounding area was falling into crushing poverty because of the exodus of American manufacturing, except for this one quaint jewel that prospered. Said prosperity was because of Hinzelmann, and that Lakeside would suffer the same fate without her. This arc ends in a rather dower note because now that she is gone the town's continuing fortune is over and Lakeside is destined to fall into the same decline as the surrounding towns. The teen sacrifice is akin to ye olden cultures that perform sacrifices for bountiful harvests or some such, but replace wheat with small town charm. In the show the reason the sheriff dues ex machinaed into her house is a good ol' fashioned plot hole, just some bog standard bad writing. In the book she overheard Shadow talking to him about what he had found and attacked. Thanks for a lot of the info which is also a pretty good gods history lesson. Appreciated all that and it helps make things so much clear and adds much more context to everything.
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I disliked how Shadow discovered the con and his "ambition" seems to really have come out of nowhere in the past couple episodes as he's started using his power so it kind of works. His convo with Laura was really bad because she what the gently caress do you say to someone who's got godly powers and wants to start flexing their muscles? Another moment where the writers needed something and couldn't come up with it. The tech boy thing was a good little reveal moment but it was also the kind of thing that could have been wrapped up in 4 scenes and didn't need to be dragged out a whole season. I really wish they'd found a better actress to play Laura than Emily Browning. She's just awful and is very unlikable which kind of worse in the sense that she's supposed to be rough around the edges but similar to Ruth Negga as Tulip in Preacher, it's like they tried to eliminate the emotional vulnerability of the character and replace it with snarky sarcasm and it just doesn't make the character as endearing. Probably because Browning is kind of a name actress and they wanted to
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Browning is great as Laura but she’s definitely overstayed her welcome. Like the whole show.
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I don't know why I keep watching this show. Are we ever going to reach a conclusion to anything?
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It’s really grating that starz has kept pushing this clear pain in the rear end production nightmare but canceled counterpart
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DamnGlitch posted:It’s really grating that starz has kept pushing this clear pain in the rear end production nightmare but canceled counterpart I hate that Counterpart was canceled and this survived.
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This show is a mess and I really wish it'd been canceled rather than shamble forward.
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They really could've finished this whole thing in 1-3 more episodes. We don't need another season.
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i like Emily Browning idk about in this season though i haven't watched any of it, on the presumption that it was gonna be even worse than the last one.
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So I assume Artifact Zero (the arrowhead-lookin’ thing) is the first tool made by proto-humans, which was the start of Technical Boy as his totem, and that plays into World’s new tech being named SHARD?
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This season ending made so little sense than I half expect their Big Move for a prospective next season is to just say the first 2 seasons were largely a dream or some such.
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Cojawfee posted:I hate that Counterpart was canceled and this survived. Counterpart was great, and I absolutely enjoyed the acting clinic that Simmons put on, but I think it ended perfectly. There were a couple more threads that they could have followed, but after Homeland I'm glad it stopped.
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The third season of Counterpart was made by Remedy Entertainment and is called Control. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT5yMfC9LQM
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Mar 23, 2021 06:36
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Did I get it right that mr. World is secretly Loki or I wasn't paying enough attention/something else entirely?
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Mar 23, 2021 13:31
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Sekenr posted:Did I get it right that mr. World is secretly Loki or I wasn't paying enough attention/something else entirely? Book spoilers: Assuming they haven't changed things from the book, yes, Mr. World is Loki, and has been conspiring with Wednesday/Odin the whole time.
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I stopped watching this season halfway through due to crushing boredom, is it worth finishing or no? I've read the book so don't really care about how it ends.
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Cacator posted:I stopped watching this season halfway through due to crushing boredom, is it worth finishing or no? I've read the book so don't really care about how it ends. I would wait to see if they get another season, and if they even plan to have any kind of conclusion to the series.
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