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And more than 8,000 out of roughly 9,100 residents in Vollsmose willingly got tested in the past week. So much for "manglende samfundssind". It's a shame that the only ones making noise about Francoriksen are the plandemic morons.
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Dirk Pitt posted:
Germany has already done that, no effect.
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BonHair posted:It's not the skin colour, it's (((Islam))).
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For any Swedes out there, it's worth following the very public implosion of Bulletin, the ambitious conservative newspaper project that Tino Sanandaji launched last year. TLDR, after recruiting a number of high profile right-wing columnists, editors, and writers, the owners have subsequently got into flaming rows with the very same writers, editors etc. about how the paper should be run, and once this became public knowledge, the fight has escalated, publicly, on Facebook. Background: https://www.journalisten.se/nyheter/oppen-strid-mellan-bulletins-redaktionsledning-och-agare (edit: ah gently caress they've paywalled it) Real-time: https://twitter.com/mrhenko123/status/1369355714980950019 https://www.facebook.com/tino.sanandaji/posts/10158197114408231 Beeswax fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Mar 9, 2021 21:29
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Beeswax posted:For any Swedes out there, it's worth following the very public implosion of Bulletin, the ambitious conservative newspaper project that Tino Sanandaji launched last year. Yeah I've been laughing at it all day (see my post above). The amazing thing is that it kind of drew a lot of the more high profile right-right wing columnists away from more mainstream newspaper like SvD and GP, and now it seems like they all might end up unemployed for the effort. And those same columnists might not even have secured any written contracts, and are now being refused to get any. E: for extra context, this newspaper has existed for labout two and a half month before going down in flames. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Mar 9, 2021 21:32
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lilljonas posted:Yeah I've been laughing at it all day (see my post above). The amazing thing is that it kind of drew a lot of the more high profile right-right wing columnists away from more mainstream newspaper like SvD and GP, and now it seems like they all might end up unemployed for the effort. And those same columnists might not even have secured any written contracts, and are now being refused to get any. Oh crap, didn't see your past on the previous page. Sorry about that! And yeah, I mean I'm sure people like Ivar Arpi will find new lucrative jobs out there pretty quickly, but it certainly is something to leave one of the nation's biggest papers for what turns out to be a garbage fire.
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Mar 9, 2021 21:36
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Beeswax posted:Oh crap, didn't see your past on the previous page. Sorry about that! What kind of world is this when you can't gather the country's biggest loudmouth libertarian and autoritarian right wing twitter grifters under the same roof and still run a well-oiled, disciplined propaganda factory where people do exactly as they are told? But yeah not all of their careers will be lost on this, but it'll probably be a bump on the road for most of them and there'll be rivers of bad blood when this is over.
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Those who can’t work from home in isolation seem to get covid more often, curious, I say, as I carve a swastika in my forehead.
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This might have been answered earlier in the thread, but are there any good pods or blogs out there that cover Nordic/Swedish politics from a left wing perspective? A standpoint from an environmental point of view would be great too so I have more fodder to throw back when relatives and coworkers start barking about Elsa Widding and 'climate panic', as that comes up often.
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I'd love me some swedish blogs / podcasts covering from a left perspective so I can follow what's happening in Sweden.
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lilljonas posted:What kind of world is this when you can't gather the country's biggest loudmouth libertarian and autoritarian right wing twitter grifters under the same roof and still run a well-oiled, disciplined propaganda factory where people do exactly as they are told? Yeah this is like Dave Rubin trying to run a newspaper with Michael Knowles and Count Dankula and no billionaire money to keep it all afloat. I'm surprised, I expected the bulletin to get slammed around in courts and pressombudsmannen for defamation or something like that by election time but to implode this quickly is just hillarious. ' Also: https://twitter.com/pergrankvist/status/1369623032956936198 luminalflux posted:I'd love me some swedish blogs / podcasts covering from a left perspective so I can follow what's happening in Sweden. Unfortunately most of the good ones are in Swedish, but I'm probably not the one to ask since I don't follow the swedish podcast scene all that well. Postorder Trollet89 fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Unfortunately most of the good ones are in Swedish, but I'm probably not the one to ask since I don't follow the swedish podcast scene all that well. I'm 100% fluent in swedish but I haven't followed swedish news or politics since I moved in 2015, seems every news site decided to paywall everything to hell and back and i haven't asked my old friends at Schibsted to hook me up with free subs. Only podcast i've been listening to has been P3 Dokumentär for when my non-swedish speaking wife wants study in the car and needs something in a foreign language so she can't understand it.
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luminalflux posted:I'd love me some swedish blogs / podcasts covering from a left perspective so I can follow what's happening in Sweden. Radio åt alla publishes a lot of podcasts and is a part of of Allt åt alla, so if you want something on the left wing of the left wing you can check there. I mainly listen to Eld & Rörelse, a podcast analysing military history and recent conflicts from a left wing perspective, both because I'm a MÖP in general and because I know one of the hosts. It's pretty good. Sometimes they rant a bit, but they keep track of news in current conflicts better than mainstream media, so I check them out for things like the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan which nobody covers. The other shows are more for normal, non-MÖP people so I haven't really checked them out. https://poddtoppen.se/podcast/1234316622/radio-at-alla/eld-och-rorelse-1-wagner-group lilljonas fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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if you're willing to subscribe to an actual daily newspaper, klassekampen uploads their whole paper to the net and has a general, very broadly left perspective on its editorialising there's also a million leftie norwegian podcasts but none of them are very good imo - that is, they're not entertaining, which i absolutely demand in from my podcasts. there's Tusvik& Tønne i guess, but that is a very soft left indeed
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I got annoyed at first when they started paywalling every news site in Sweden but then I ended up going svt for my daily news, sometimes you miss out on some stuff but for the most part it's great.
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luminalflux posted:I'd love me some swedish blogs / podcasts covering from a left perspective so I can follow what's happening in Sweden. What about "Off Limits med Jonas & Hans"? 
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V. Illych L. posted:if you're willing to subscribe to an actual daily newspaper, klassekampen uploads their whole paper to the net and has a general, very broadly left perspective on its editorialising Klassekampen is also getting increasingly terfy.
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the chief editor has some pretty questionable instincts but i disagree that the paper in general is 'increasingly' terfy, even for a dramatically expanded definition of the term - actual radical feminism of the kind you see in britain which ended with the actual TERF tendency, i.e. the bindels and greers of the world has never been very prominent in norway. rather, marxian-ish groups like Kvinnefronten have been the ones to set the stage for women's issues in this country, and to my knowledge they've accepted trans women since the nineties at least the paper's position seems to be one of trying to be a sort of neutral ground, and their reporting reflects this. it's less affirmatively trans-inclusive than i would prefer, but e.g. the debate over the gender reassignment law and the more traditional women's orgs in the country's position was actually interesting and informative. they're wed to a notion of a public discourse which is increasingly old-fashioned and which generates a lot of dissatisfaction, but one of their regular columnists had a column called 'kjønnsmangfoldet' under their segment 'feminist, javisst' on the 8th of march, so it's hard to accept that it's an ideologically trans-exclusionary paper
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re kvinnefronten i should say 'have had trans women as members' since the nineties. i can't speak for the cultural acceptance, but i have met a trans woman who'd been a member of the organisation since that period. i suppose it may strictly speaking have been a don't ask, don't tell sort of situation, but i did not get that impression
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Any Swedes out there listening to Rock Klassiker? What the gently caress is wrong with Jonas Nilsson? He sounds like a sugar free version of American alt right social media
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V. Illych L. posted:re kvinnefronten i should say 'have had trans women as members' since the nineties. i can't speak for the cultural acceptance, but i have met a trans woman who'd been a member of the organisation since that period. i suppose it may strictly speaking have been a don't ask, don't tell sort of situation, but i did not get that impression
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yeah you have some serious weirdos going about, most notably gjevjon and jaquesson. jaquesson seems to me to have just gone off the deep end, but gjevjon is more coherent and seems to be doing this weird 'LGB alliance' transphobic stuff with links to dodgy US evangelical groups. i haven't been fully up-to-date on this landscape for many years now, so i can't speak for how relevant ottar is these days either, but them not getting rid of jaquesson is definitely a bad sign. there's also a bunch of transphobes sort of hanging around the margins of the women's movement, but as far as i've been able to glean from all the sound and fury from the 8th of march slogan meetings there was no serious consideration of any really transphobic slogans (i.e. they were not selected by the forwarding committees and nobody bothered fighting for them), which does seem to indicate that they really are on the margins, because those meetings are always massively fraught and they fight over all sorts of stuff - apparently there was a bit of discussion about a 'yay polish women, nay abortion restrictions' slogan on the basis of trans inclusiveness, but i do not consider that serious transphobia. that said, my caveat of being a bit more removed from this these days applies here as well, and it *is* genuinely difficult to get a clear view unless one is very close to the action and it's entirely possible that fosen 8th of march committee or something has adopted something genuinely terrible. Klassekampen is a bit weird on this because they will absolutely print e.g. gjevjon's comments, and one of their religion columnists had a meltdown about the mystical nature of trans-ideology which was followed up by a truly bizarre and downright vicious letter to the editor when called out on it. my impression is that they give their columnists a lot of freedom, and that they try to keep their letters to the editor page very broad, and that they prefer to err on the side of printing something. their reporting seems decidedly agnostic, but they're never dismissive about the issue and they do stuff like interviews with trans activists much more frequently than any other daily that i read basically KLK's ideology is not trans-exclusionary, but they're sharply opposed to ideas of deplatforming and such, which i imagine is partly a reaction to their past as a party organ for AKP-ml and their reconstitution as a sort of eurocommunist/social-democratic hybrid
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My counterpoint is that you can't be neutral on this issue, in the same way that you can't be neutral on racism and homophobia. No serious newspaper is going to print a fullblown defense of eugenics so I don't see why it should be fine to print terf poo poo.
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Kamrat posted:I got annoyed at first when they started paywalling every news site in Sweden but then I ended up going svt for my daily news, sometimes you miss out on some stuff but for the most part it's great. I second this. SVT has a good newsroom, to the chagrin of the alt-right who wants to burn them down.
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BigglesSWE posted:I second this. SVT has a good newsroom, to the chagrin of the alt-right who wants to burn them down. They’re not terrible but I’d love for them to go more in depth sometimes. I love the DN long reads or multipart series...if I’m able to finish them. Is the paywall model profitable for news orgs? Like even in the US it isn’t that gratuitous.
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Cardiac posted:Finally, I got approached about a job today and I can now confirm that marijuana snus will be a thing if legalisation ever happens. Hey, congratulations! Sounds like a cool project.
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Alhazred posted:My counterpoint is that you can't be neutral on this issue, in the same way that you can't be neutral on racism and homophobia. No serious newspaper is going to print a fullblown defense of eugenics so I don't see why it should be fine to print terf poo poo. yeah i tend to agree with this to be clear, but imo there's a fair amount of daylight between this and 'being (...) terfy' as a publication
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teen witch posted:Is the paywall model profitable for news orgs? Like even in the US it isn’t that gratuitous. It must be, otherwise they wouldn't do it right? I can imagine that it's more profitable in the short term rather than the long term since i don't think they gain many new readers by doing this.
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teen witch posted:Is the paywall model profitable for news orgs? Like even in the US it isn’t that gratuitous. Yes. It's something like 45% of the subscription revenue of Schibsted's news media (VG, SvD, Aftonbladet, Stavanger Aftenblad, Aftenposten) and 15% of new media's overall revenue looking at their Q3 2020 results (slides 17 and 18). It's worth basically a Blocket in revenue and that's something Schibsted would never give up since it's a money printer that goes brrrrrrrrr (I used to work for blocket so this is familiar territory)
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luminalflux posted:(I used to work for blocket so this is familiar territory) I once tried to sell a wall sander on blocket that came with a vacuum cleaner (you couldn't use it without the vacuum cleaner attachment) Blocket took my money and then refused to put up the ad. Telling me I had to sell the two separately. What's up with that?
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Katt posted:I once tried to sell a wall sander on blocket that came with a vacuum cleaner (you couldn't use it without the vacuum cleaner attachment) Blocket took my money and then refused to put up the ad. Telling me I had to sell the two separately. i left in 2014 but then ad review was always handled by a separate company i just wrote code
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Katt posted:Any Swedes out there listening to Rock Klassiker? What the gently caress is wrong with Jonas Nilsson? Isnt that only music? Its the only radio station my gf plays in the car. Same songs over and over and over
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von Braun posted:Isnt that only music? Its the only radio station my gf plays in the car. Same songs over and over and over The most glorious time was when Europe had been out touring and they basically locked Ian Haugland in the studio to make up for lost work. Dubbeltisdan was a looooot of hair metal.
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luminalflux posted:i left in 2014 but then ad review was always handled by a separate company If I don't remember it wrong, it is (was?) done by a company in Malta whose hiring base consists of a bunch of 19—yearolds moving down there straight from the studentflak to party in the sun and maybe work a little. I'm guessing they had very little experience of, well, basically everything. For access to news media, a hot tip is to join your local library. It costs nothing and you get access to a bunch of different papers in digital format. You could also get lucky and have an unknown, less digitally savvy person with a paper subscription sign up to the online one using your email address. That's how I gained access to DN for about a year before they discovered their error.
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Seagull Fiasco posted:You could also get lucky and have an unknown, less digitally savvy person with a paper subscription sign up to the online one using your email address. That's how I gained access to DN for about a year before they discovered their error.
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Alhazred posted:No serious newspaper is going to print a fullblown defense of eugenics I see you're not familiar with Danish media.
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