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Ytlaya posted:To put it another way, people talking about fascists often seems like the intent is more to categorize mainstream politics as not fascist. The point isn't to go after the Proud Boys or whatever; it's to make sure that people understand that mainstream institutions really aren't that bad! this is the crux of centrism and a concept and how they maintain the eponymous illusion of being somehow in the center of all things well, it's not so much an illusion in that they do see themselves at the center of all things
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There was a period of maybe 2 years where it felt like every left podcast was obsessed with the question of defining fascism and classifying things as fascist or not. As if you could construct some logical proof that Trump and his supporters are fascist, then use that to mobilize people against them. Read my blog and wake up, sheeple!
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Halloween Jack posted:There was a period of maybe 2 years where it felt like every left podcast was obsessed with the question of defining fascism and classifying things as fascist or not. As if you could construct some logical proof that Trump and his supporters are fascist, then use that to mobilize people against them. Read my blog and wake up, sheeple! I think a lot of people who otherwise mean well still use this sort of framing. Discussion of 1/6 was probably the best recent example of this - many leftists still treated it like some dire threat, because fascists! And like you were the equivalent of a holocaust denier or something if you didn't think it was an attempted fascist coup. I think people didn't want to seem like they were "downplaying fascism" or something. Even people like the Citations Needed guys (who otherwise generally have good politics) fall into this trap. Part of it, I think, is a result of "being a leftist on the internet/twitter." You become trained to frame all the things you say with the knowledge that "liberals might criticize me" and to preemptively address this criticisms. Like you gotta make sure that you point out that you know Trump is a fascist and aren't equating him with non-fascists! Do this enough, and you start to actually believe it (or you become like me and suddenly realize one day that it's all nonsense). Xaris posted:Matt also went on Death Is Just Around The Corner to plug it as well. at least he addressed that he understands and admit it feels weird to be on stitcher and mostly trying to help his boys Brenden James out with Season 2 of Blowback. described as a "package of chapo shows and see if anybody who only listens to stitcher shows who doesn't know us will be able to listen" Yeah, that's the only time where I just went "lol no I'm going to pirate that." I get the impression that it was probably Felix's idea more than Matt's. Felix is very self-aware about his situation, but I also get the impression that he's ironically actually one of the chapos who cares the most about his own "professional reputation/success" (along with Virgil). He'll sort of tongue-in-cheek mention being a "bestselling author" but he's totally actually proud of that. Note the fact that they're the only chapos who are verified on Twitter. I get the impression Will is fine with just managing the show and Matt doesn't care much either way.
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Xaris posted:I think that is true, sort of like epic game store exclusives they're probably paying for some amount of exclusive hosting for some time. iirc blowback eventually released them publicly some time later. i don't think matt is intentionally being disingenuous about not wanting to help draw listenership to Blowback 2 but i agree it feels really flimsy. maybe viewership for BB1 really wasn't great. honestly just say "they offered us a lot of money to work 2 hrs a week and i like money". I expressly asked around about this and stitcher apparently only makes any monetary sense at all if you have enough of a track record and established clout that stitcher is willing to bet that you'll convert a significant portion of that clout into stitcher subscribers, some of whom will stick. So for something like Blowback it works but for normies who are not Chapo legends it's probably not really a viable route.
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Honest Thief posted:matt's shtick about how old movies didn't pander is whatever but I'm watching the sorceror and it features a Palestinian bomber trying to knife a dude who killed an old nazi and it's barely a plot point, it rules Sorcerer loving owns
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pretty wild that not only couldn't you say that 6/1 was some murky army intelligence or alphabet soup agency operation or some joint op, you couldn't even rightfully admit that the entire thing was incredibly cool and incredibly funny especially the Q Shaman guy free my man
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vanishedimam posted:I expressly asked around about this and stitcher apparently only makes any monetary sense at all if you have enough of a track record and established clout that stitcher is willing to bet that you'll convert a significant portion of that clout into stitcher subscribers, some of whom will stick. So for something like Blowback it works but for normies who are not Chapo legends it's probably not really a viable route.
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it's funny comparing the two chapo expanded universe pods on stitcher - blowback and time for my stories where the former seems well-researched and has a narrative thru-line on top of a bunch of factual stories about the war. time for my stories is just disconnected musings about tv shows. the chapo guys are best when they're shooting the poo poo and making GBS threads on media figures. they're pretty bad at doing theory (matt's monologues on whatever he's been reading recently) and history (the two pod history of poppy bush)
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LittleBlackCloud posted:I already do this jokingly. I don't even care. guess it's time we all get our facts straight about the soviet intervention in hungary in 1956
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Mar 11, 2021 00:29
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a Loving Dog posted:shut up obama also matts monologues and rantings on twitch are great
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i enjoyed them, it's always interesting to hear other people's views on reconstruction outside the few historians ive read
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Larry Parrish posted:yeah. these people are deeply embarsssing. full disclosure; when I was still a kool aid drinking liberal, so literally when I was in high school lmfao, I too believed this. I was basically like 'drat maybe dictatorships aren't horrible because people are just too dumb!!!!', completely ignoring the socioeconomic reasoning behind perceived suboptimal behavior, or the cultural reasons for it, etc. I grew out of it but it's obvious a lot of these spooks and political operatives in their 40s absolutely have not. I almost feel bad for them. It's a deeply depressing way to view the world, it's almost as bad as that Malthusian doomer poo poo the libs in this subforum get up to. The Malthusian Doomers are right, lib
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UP AND ADAM posted:The Malthusian Doomers are right, lib can't really be malthusian and a doomer op
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UP AND ADAM posted:The Malthusian Doomers are right, lib Malthus was a lib and his philosophy is little more than an ideological justification for mass killing of "excess population"
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Tired: Malthusian Wired: Malthusaiyan
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i say swears online posted:tanqui go home
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Malthusians are antediluvian creatures, the most ancient generations of the childre who largely sleep deep under our feet
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Trabisnikof posted:Tired: Malthusian people powering up is heating up the planet. at least now we know what chemtrails are.
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their gunsmoke episode was good and should have been the one they plugged in chapo and also Sorcerer rules.
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Ytlaya posted:I was going to respond to the post about antifa people being dumb a lot of the time, but this basically sums things up much better. It's very easy to reframe a sentiment like "anti-fascism" in a way that is strictly partisan. From an actual leftist perspective, anti-fascism has to be understood as having a very limited horizon of possibility, in that it's never going to totally overcome fascism and all it can really do is suppress some of the most brutal aspects. This can still be a good and necessary thing, but people who make it the cornerstone of their politics are generally deluded, as you say, about the dynamics of the existing "mainstream" and its hand in creating fascism.
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sleeptalker posted:From an actual leftist perspective, anti-fascism has to be understood as having a very limited horizon of possibility, in that it's never going to totally overcome fascism and all it can really do is suppress some of the most brutal aspects. This can still be a good and necessary thing, but people who make it the cornerstone of their politics are generally deluded, as you say, about the dynamics of the existing "mainstream" and its hand in creating fascism. This certainly explains a guy I follow on twitter who talks about being antifa all the time while also posting about how we need to stand up to Chinese influence
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Honest Thief posted:a lot of people last year told on themselves by basically advocating for being under the thumb, some kind of fetish for authority yea. “yes it’s so awesome that the fbi and nsa ca. arrest people based on their phone metadata. what a win for democracy”
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AnEdgelord posted:Malthus was a lib and his philosophy is little more than an ideological justification for mass killing of "excess population" Which is exactly why climate doomers aren't malthusians, they've already accepted the mass death and want the opposite. SJY unleashed this virus of calling everything malthusian upon us all, smdh generalizing the term to uselessness. u can just say they're dumb goons who can't express their ideas like children imo Also, on the subject of huge libs, I was reading Andrew Jackson stuff and his letter to the cherokees was the most stone cold lib poo poo I have ever seen. Its crazy because he was both a whiter settler genocidal maniac and also completely sober on it being unstoppable lol, really weird guy. Homeless Friend has issued a correction as of 01:40 on Mar 11, 2021 |
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Shipon posted:This certainly explains a guy I follow on twitter who talks about being antifa all the time while also posting about how we need to stand up to Chinese influence If asked about the US, the way these people usually rationalize it is "I'm not saying the US good, but we're not talking about the US right now! We're talking about China/Russia/Syria!" (coincidentally, it is never time to talk about the US unless the topic is fringe right-wing groups or strictly partisan)
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Chiming in to say, hey, I'm 5'7 now, but I had a pretty dramatic growth spurt in middle school and was in the .01 percentile of height in grade school, and have never been particularly bulky: im 6'2
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Farm Frenzy posted:im 6'2 whoa buddy, don’t want any trouble here. all your opinions are tacitly correct. you wanna gently caress my wife? no trouble pal
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Shipon posted:This certainly explains a guy I follow on twitter who talks about being antifa all the time while also posting about how we need to stand up to Chinese influence Right, anti-fascism is about curtailing the political influence of fascists, and if you believe that's all that's necessary for good to triumph, you'll likely be similarly opposed to anything else that can be defined as political influence.
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Farm Frenzy posted:im 6'2 im 5'12", almost 6 foot
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Homeless Friend posted:Also, on the subject of huge libs, I was reading Andrew Jackson stuff and his letter to the cherokees was the most stone cold lib poo poo I have ever seen. Its crazy because he was both a whiter settler genocidal maniac and also completely sober on it being unstoppable lol, really weird guy. as a teen andrew jackson got his head bitched up by a british officer hard enough that it hosed him up for the rest of his life
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