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Blitter posted:[UK strain] ...... and a reminder that the B.1.1.7 UK strain is going gangbusters across the US, particularly up in NYC https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1369786804501626887 (His maths is off, it should be "up from 39%" last week) NY state is pretty much in a race to get people vaxxed and head off the spread of these variants, and so far neither side is winning and the numbers have been holding steady for three weeks: Deaths are down though, possibly due to older people getting vaxxed https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
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Cool. Scheduled mine for 3/17, at Cleveland State downtown. I dunno, St. Patrick's, and being almost downtown and all would want me to go get at least a corned beef sandwich, but I'll probably just come back home, and get back to work for as long as I'm capable. It's a 45 minute drive for me one way, and I have no idea which vaccine I'll be getting, and really don't care. I just want a normal-ish Summer this year. Trip report to follow.
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BlankIsBeautiful posted:Cool. Scheduled mine for 3/17, at Cleveland State downtown. I dunno, St. Patrick's, and being almost downtown and all would want me to go get at least a corned beef sandwich, but I'll probably just come back home, and get back to work for as long as I'm capable. It's a 45 minute drive for me one way, and I have no idea which vaccine I'll be getting, and really don't care. I just want a normal-ish Summer this year. Trip report to follow. 1d or did ohio open up for more?
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:1d or did ohio open up for more? They started 50+ today, and my wife was bored at work, and scored me a spot. I could've probably waited for a closer location, but I'm tired of this plague, and if I have to drive 45 minutes to get the shot, so be it. Plus, I'm a boat nerd, so it's a good excuse to hang out at the river/lake if the weather's nice enough that day. I haven't been to the flats in over a year.
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Ah OK. There's supposedly a "list" to get ahead of schedule to not waste the shots. Been looking for info on it. Rain in the afternoon but the lake should be quite pretty with the wind.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:...... and a reminder that the B.1.1.7 UK strain is going gangbusters across the US, particularly up in NYC This is still good news. I think most people can recognize and agree that covid is never going to go away, especially with new variants popping up. As long as vaccines can prevent deaths - that is what is important to focus on at this point. Positive cases will, and most likely always be a thing now with ups and downs depending on the month/holiday seasons.
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Platystemon posted:Finland should produce Sputnik V. Der Kyhe posted:Yes, but it includes a need to make a deal with Russia. And its always politically motivated with the Russians, and unless you are geographically in a place that requires you to play ball regardless, usually the winning option with Russia is not to play at all. It’s looking like a better idea by the day with the AZ clotting scare.
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Platystemon posted:It’s looking like a better idea by the day with the AZ clotting scare. Not to post while being 'baselessly optimistic' but it's highly unlikely that the clotting scare means anything WRT the vaccine as a whole. If there's a problem, it's something to do with a particular batch, but more than likely it's just a small string of coincidences and the pause in usage is merely precautionary. If there was a clotting problem with the vaccine we would likely have noticed by now after 3 months and tens of millions of doses already delivered.
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Castaign posted:My first shot is scheduled for Monday; with the new guidelines for eligibility it's basically a free for all here in Georgia. Thanks for this! Just scheduled my shot for next Tuesday in Georgia because starting on Monday being fat is a reason to get one.
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# ? Mar 11, 2021 16:51 |
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i signed up for a vaccine over a month ago in texas and have yet to hear anything back lol this god drat state
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# ? Mar 11, 2021 17:03 |
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North Carolina folks in Group 4 should pay attention to the news around 3 PM today as our time may be opening sooner than March 24: https://www.wxii12.com/article/north-carolina-covid-19-vaccine-eligibility-group-4-march/35806950
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OMFG FURRY posted:i signed up for a vaccine over a month ago in texas and have yet to hear anything back Check out the HEB pharmacy openings. There are new slots very frequently.
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OMFG FURRY posted:i signed up for a vaccine over a month ago in texas and have yet to hear anything back Don't worry, I heard covid's already over there. You can go to TGI Friday's in peace!
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OMFG FURRY posted:i signed up for a vaccine over a month ago in texas and have yet to hear anything back Also, I hear that a lot of places are having signup sheets where you can be notified about extra doses, since not everyone shows up for their appointment, and they would rather not waste doses. Not sure if this is true in Texas but it is in my state. for Floridians etc. Zugzwang fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Mar 11, 2021 |
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BlankIsBeautiful posted:They started 50+ today, and my wife was bored at work, and scored me a spot. I could've probably waited for a closer location, but I'm tired of this plague, and if I have to drive 45 minutes to get the shot, so be it. Plus, I'm a boat nerd, so it's a good excuse to hang out at the river/lake if the weather's nice enough that day. I haven't been to the flats in over a year. That's really good news. Weeks ago Dewine made it sound like we were going to be going in 5 year increments with every age group being weeks. Now I'm thinking "All adults" might be realistic by summer. Well, not counting the anti vaxxers who will never get it.
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screech on the beach posted:Thanks for this! Just scheduled my shot for next Tuesday in Georgia because starting on Monday being fat is a reason to get one. It feels real good to be able to share some good news for a change! (Though I know there's plenty of folks who apparently hate anything more positive than morose pessimism, so )
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I got my jab in a big stadium miles away tomorrow (disability carer), my lad (at risk) has his at the pub round the corner on Monday which is lol but I’ve not traveled 12 miles away from my house in a year so it will be a nice day out.
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wilderthanmild posted:That's really good news. Weeks ago Dewine made it sound like we were going to be going in 5 year increments with every age group being weeks. Now I'm thinking "All adults" might be realistic by summer. Well, not counting the anti vaxxers who will never get it. Yeah, I've got four adult kids, and I wish like hell they could get the shot at the same time as me. Two are able, and have been, working remotely, but another one is in set design for theater productions which got sucker punched by this mess, and another is an audio engineer, but he's able to at least isolate reasonably well. My wife works for a school system so she had her first dose a week or so ago. It did take her down pretty hard the following day (I believe it was Pfizer), but she's looking forward to number two in a week. I'm looking forward to the normalcy this will bring. God help the antivaxxers. Mother Nature, and COVID will find them.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-pfizer-israel-int-idUSKBN2B31IW Latest data suggest pfizer is 94% effective against asymptomatic cases in Israel.
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Blitter posted:Just a reminder to be safe and ignore dipshits and their baseless optimism. Seconded, that guy is clearly an idiot. Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Mar 11, 2021 |
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:Seconded, that guy is clearly an idiot. I apologize for being unduly harsh. When you posted that more severe disease was unlikely from variants, it hadn't been particularly widely published. I feel that optimism has cost a lot of lives so far in this, but it's wrong to be lovely about it. Speaking of variants, Florida has managed to hit 50% B.1.1.7 today, right in line with the predicted date. https://mobile.twitter.com/alexbolze/status/1369793371280089090 In the UK, 50% B.1.1.7 lead their steep rise of cases by about 2 weeks, with their peak ar about one month. I hope that the vaccination has been enough to reduce the most severe cases and deaths.
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Some Guy From NY posted:I think most people can recognize and agree that covid is never going to go away, especially with new variants popping up. It has absolutely been eradicated several times in a lot of places. But no, it won't be going away until the majority are vaccinated in the US.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 00:27 |
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Biden is going to allow states to open vaccinations to all adults on May 1st: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/politics/joe-biden-one-year-covid-address/index.html "No" - Red states
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They need to stop focusing on people slamming together and "getting back to normal" and worry about getting the covid number as close to 0 as possible. Two months of open vaccination will probably not do that. E: And no these are not the same thing.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 00:44 |
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Opening it up on May 1st is a good idea because it hopefully will light a fire under those states that are dawdling.
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Hollismason posted:Opening it up on May 1st is a good idea because it hopefully will light a fire under those states that are dawdling. Narrator: Those states double downed on the dawdling
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:It has absolutely been eradicated several times in a lot of places. But no, it won't be going away until the majority are vaccinated in the US. This is pedantic, but "eradication" in medical terms specifically means the virus has been utterly wiped out globally and only exists in labs, like smallpox. Wiping it out on a regional level (like Taiwan, Aus, NZ etc keep doing) is "elimination." I only know this because "elimination" has become such a politically loaded phrase in Australia - the government refuses to use it even though their official policy is "no community transmission" which for all intents and purposes means the same thing. The epidemiologists I follow on Twitter are of two minds about whether eradication will ever be possible, but those who think it is say that it would require a massive concerted global vaccination effort for years and years and years, down to the most remote parts of the developing world, and even if we manage to muster the wherewithal to do that it will still take a very long and sustained campaign by the UN and WHO, as occurred with smallpox and (hopefully soon) with polio. It's not something that's going to happen in the next few years just because we developed vaccines quickly, even though life will probably be back to normal for pretty much everyone in the developed world by the end of 2021. I imagine we're going to see border screening and quarantines for people from more high-risk countries for years to come, like we used to do with TB in the 19th century.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:It has absolutely been eradicated several times in a lot of places. But no, it won't be going away until the majority are vaccinated in the US. It actually won't going away ever, that's how endemics work.
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Fenarisk posted:It actually won't going away ever, that's how endemics work. Smallpox was endemic in a lot of areas and that poo poo’s gone. Do I think this will be successfully eradicated, no, I doubt that. But it’s not “how endemics work”.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Smallpox was endemic in a lot of areas and that poo poo’s gone. SARS‐CoV‐2 has multiple clades of susceptible wild animals on every continent. It is never going away. code:
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OMFG FURRY posted:i signed up for a vaccine over a month ago in texas and have yet to hear anything back Same thing in Arkansas. I was trying to get my 70 year old mother who has asthma and other health problems scheduled to a vaccine. One place in our city put her on a waiting list. A month went by and we didn't hear anything. Every other place wasn't scheduling at all, just saying appointments currently unavailable. On a whim I called a place in a tiny little podunk town nearby and they were like "sure thing, come on down!" no problem. lol She goes back for her second shot in a week.
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Platystemon posted:SARS‐CoV‐2 has multiple clades of susceptible wild animals on every continent. It is never going away. But how many wild animals actually have it? How many are catching it from what is, right now as vaccines slowly roll out, around the highest number of active infections we'll ever see? As opposed to farm animals that we can cull like all those Danish mink? I think it's way too early to argue that potential wild animal reservoirs for a novel virus equals eradication being impossible, especially since we don't yet know whether it developed in wild bats or jumped to us via something else in the Wuhan wet market.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 07:45 |
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I look forward to getting my vaccine in 2027 because my county gets 300 doses a week for 10k people and 60% of people in my county are age 50+. I loving love rural Iowa
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 07:52 |
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lmao CA is going to get zergrushed in May
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freebooter posted:But how many wild animals actually have it? How many are catching it from what is, right now as vaccines slowly roll out, around the highest number of active infections we'll ever see? As opposed to farm animals that we can cull like all those Danish mink? I think it's way too early to argue that potential wild animal reservoirs for a novel virus equals eradication being impossible, especially since we don't yet know whether it developed in wild bats or jumped to us via something else in the Wuhan wet market. quote:The USDA said it had found one positive case in "free-ranging, wild mink" in Utah as part of wildlife surveillance around infected farms. It's always the goddamned minks
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freebooter posted:But how many wild animals actually have it? How many are catching it from what is, right now as vaccines slowly roll out, around the highest number of active infections we'll ever see? As opposed to farm animals that we can cull like all those Danish mink? I think it's way too early to argue that potential wild animal reservoirs for a novel virus equals eradication being impossible, especially since we don't yet know whether it developed in wild bats or jumped to us via something else in the Wuhan wet market. It’s not a physical impossibility. If you were, say, appointed god emperor of all mankind, you could do it. If nothing else, we have proved ourselves capable of bringing all the relevant mammal species to extinction—a horrible thought, but technically effective. It’s just inconceivably difficult. Each of the diseases on that list would be easier to eradicate, even the ones listed as “Not eradicable”. People feel guilty that we let a new and terrible disease loose on the world, and they want to put it back in the bottle, but sometimes we have to live with the consequences of our actions.
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Oh, yeah, I mean, I don't think it's likely we're going to eradicate it, I just don't agree with "it's here forever no matter what." There was actually a really good longread in the last couple of months breaking down how difficult eradication would be and why lack of political and financial will would be the biggest barrier, and I can't remember where I read it. I think it was British.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 08:44 |
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This is going to sound a little weird, but this most recent coronavirus thing might eventually lead to an overall coronavirus threat reduction. See, the issue of "novel coronavirus jumps out and kills people" has never been a question of 'if', ever since mass air travel became popular, but instead, 'how long?'. We had the SARS1 thing, the MERS thing, and we were due. When I was still working in the area, a perennial option for reviews was summarising the past, then speculation about the latest information regarding risk factors and warning signs. But now that things have really gone sideways in developed countries, we had this huge push to develop effective vaccines and vaccine frameworks, and so that might translate into less overall stress when the next big coronavirus thing comes along. Which it will.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 11:29 |
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To be fair we had proper plans to fight this style pandemic before it happened but everyone ignored them. It depends on politics in the future sadly to how we'll react to another pandemic. Not hopeful for the uk
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I feel pretty optimistic about Australia's ability to handle a much worse future pandemic because we ended up going above and beyond what our established plans recommended (i.e. we closed not just the national borders but the internal borders) and now have the ~Lived Experience~ of knowing that going hard, fast and early gets great results.
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