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I'm still of the opinion that there has never been an Annie that belongs in any timeline. Ghost dude's dialogue simply said neither belongs, that doesn't mean one ever belonged in the first place.
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Darth TNT posted:What? You mean the temporal issues thing? That they solved by going back and forth on their own timeline and not the alternate timelines which probably have their own Nornes? I fail to see how that disproves or proves anything. Spirit bureaucrat says they need to see Temporal Affairs to deal with Annie being "shifted." We all assumed the shifting is why there were two Annies. The Thousand Eyes was about dealing with Annie being shifted. More specifically, creating the event that shifted her in the first place, by saving her after falling off the bridge. The Norns (who are Temporal Affairs) then specifically say that there being two Annies isn't a result of Time Nonsense. So, Loup split Annie into two people, without messing with alternate timelines, sent one back to the court, and talked to the other one for six months.
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Kantesu posted:Spirit bureaucrat says they need to see Temporal Affairs to deal with Annie being "shifted." We all assumed the shifting is why there were two Annies. The Thousand Eyes was about dealing with Annie being shifted. More specifically, creating the event that shifted her in the first place, by saving her after falling off the bridge. The Norns (who are Temporal Affairs) then specifically say that there being two Annies isn't a result of Time Nonsense. So, Loup split Annie into two people, without messing with alternate timelines, sent one back to the court, and talked to the other one for six months. ^its this, this is the correct take. Thank god somebody beat me to posting it before i got off work, cuz I was not looking forward to trying to explain it, but this thread went wacko koko nuts and i felt somebody had to.
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Kantesu posted:Spirit bureaucrat says they need to see Temporal Affairs to deal with Annie being "shifted." We all assumed the shifting is why there were two Annies. The Thousand Eyes was about dealing with Annie being shifted. More specifically, creating the event that shifted her in the first place, by saving her after falling off the bridge. The Norns (who are Temporal Affairs) then specifically say that there being two Annies isn't a result of Time Nonsense. So, Loup split Annie into two people, without messing with alternate timelines, sent one back to the court, and talked to the other one for six months.
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Fecha posted:Hmm on the other hand Brinnie also uses the terminology "shifted" when observing them with her magic eyes, and doesn't seem to question the idea that the Norns could help. If your take is what Tom intended then maybe I and others were thrown that Annie's problem not being "Temporal Affairs" seemed more like a bureaucratic red tape joke than a serious story beat. So I took that to mean that the shifting, while it's messing with parallel dimensions, isn't precisely a temporal issue? She could tell they were time-shifted but she incorrectly assumed it was the cause of there being two of them. Turns out it was the cause of Annie being alive at all. E: This is what I think is happening anyway. I don't mean to sound authoritative.
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gunnerkrigg court is passing into pacific rim, nu-annie is a jaeger and court/forest annies are simultaneously piloting her waiting for the boxbot kaiju to reveal itself so they can punch it to death
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And Tyler Too! posted:gunnerkrigg court is passing into pacific rim, nu-annie is a jaeger and court/forest annies are simultaneously piloting her waiting for the boxbot kaiju to reveal itself so they can punch it to death I'd like it if they punched Loup to death.
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Mar 11, 2021 08:13
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I am clinging to the vanishingly thin hope this is a cross-chapter "psych, it was all
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The comic has now produced two entities created by weaving the fibers of multiple independent beings together. Will it take a third before you folks finally understand that synthesis in the comic's world does not require the destruction of the participating elements? What do you think happens to your consciousness when you go to sleep at night?
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Kantesu posted:Spirit bureaucrat says they need to see Temporal Affairs to deal with Annie being "shifted." We all assumed the shifting is why there were two Annies. The Thousand Eyes was about dealing with Annie being shifted. More specifically, creating the event that shifted her in the first place, by saving her after falling off the bridge. The Norns (who are Temporal Affairs) then specifically say that there being two Annies isn't a result of Time Nonsense. So, Loup split Annie into two people, without messing with alternate timelines, sent one back to the court, and talked to the other one for six months. Your explanation makes sense and fits as well. I'm not ready to let my own interpretation go yet. But I will definitely keep that interpretation in mind as we go forward. Lurdiak posted:She could tell they were time-shifted but she incorrectly assumed it was the cause of there being two of them. Turns out it was the cause of Annie being alive at all. CJacobs posted:The comic has now produced two entities created by weaving the fibers of multiple independent beings together. Will it take a third before you folks finally understand that synthesis in the comic's world does not require the destruction of the participating elements? What do you think happens to your consciousness when you go to sleep at night? Mine has fun adventures in an alternate universe.
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Are the people that keep saying that Courtnie specifically is dead joking or are they serious? Because that take in particular makes no sense to me.
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CJacobs posted:The comic has now produced two entities created by weaving the fibers of multiple independent beings together. Will it take a third before you folks finally understand that synthesis in the comic's world does not require the destruction of the participating elements? What do you think happens to your consciousness when you go to sleep at night? It's been repeatedly stated that Coyote and Ysengrin are dead, though, including by the beings involved.
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Mar 11, 2021 09:27
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Riot Bus posted:Are the people that keep saying that Courtnie specifically is dead joking or are they serious? Because that take in particular makes no sense to me. If a character, who has a unique role and effect on the plot and who's very existence creates an interesting dynamic with other characters, is then permanently removed from that plot to return the story to a similar dynamic prior to their introduction, then that character is functionally dead for the purposes of the story, regardless of if it they are actually "dead" by whatever metric that story cares to use. Courtnie died on the way to her home planet, for all it matters now to the readers and the author if this sticks as it increasingly appears to.
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my only criticism is that this arc should have been a little longer, I would have liked an additional chapter focusing more on the annies. reynard's development is great but it feels weird that it then ends with annie's resolution.
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Mar 11, 2021 14:48
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:If a character, who has a unique role and effect on the plot and who's very existence creates an interesting dynamic with other characters, is then permanently removed from that plot to return the story to a similar dynamic prior to their introduction, then that character is functionally dead for the purposes of the story, regardless of if it they are actually "dead" by whatever metric that story cares to use. I guess you can say that, if you think Courtnie's only character trait/effect on the story is wearing makeup and everything else is exclusively Fannie's domain.
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Mar 11, 2021 15:18
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CJacobs posted:What do you think happens to your consciousness when you go to sleep at night? it's the thirteenth month of roni, sleep is a daytime thing and the night is for depression and alcohol
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The criticism of the chapter I do agree with though is that of the pacing. Reading back through it it does feel very strange, like the chapter originally ended on a cliffhanger and spilled over into a second part but it was rewritten or condensed at some point. edit: A while back, showing Surma in person at all would have been a totally showstopping moment, let alone with Annie in the same room. Maybe it's to do with the aforementioned YA themes of choosing pragmatism over delightful fantasy but it really felt odd how little fanfare there was for that. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Mar 11, 2021 |
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Mar 11, 2021 21:05
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Yeah I agree with that, for sure. I tried rereading the chapter all at once and it didn't really make the pacing feel better. It seems like the Annies were building to some sort of climax with their fight but then that gets put aside for Reynard's conversation and things get derailed into random Zimmyscape stuff (like the part about the elf dude having the hots for the elf girl) and then suddenly we're back to Annie and her situation has resolved off camera. Regardless of where this is going that didn't feel great, narratively.
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Mar 11, 2021 21:33
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It feels very much like it's not a entire chapter in its own right, like there isn't really a great deal of story telling going on here. I can only guess this is a setup for something that has more than plenty already and can only hope Antimony get to be their own selves again later because this isn't a resolution to anything.
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Mar 11, 2021 23:01
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Darth TNT posted:Anni Anni. Darth TNT posted:Anni Darth TNT posted:Anni why no e
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Mar 11, 2021 23:35
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Mazerunner posted:why no e Finally, someone with the courage to ask the hard questions
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Mar 11, 2021 23:41
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Everyone knows the multiple of Annie is Anni.
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Mar 11, 2021 23:42
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Mazerunner posted:Anni anni Anni anni anni anni Anni anni No, that sentence only works with "Buffalo".
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Mar 12, 2021 00:32
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Mazerunner posted:why no e stack them all up on end, in a line push one over anni domino
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Mar 12, 2021 01:03
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Bussamove posted:Everyone knows the multiple of Annie is Anni. A Burning of Annies
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Mar 12, 2021 02:17
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CJacobs posted:The comic has now produced two entities created by weaving the fibers of multiple independent beings together. Will it take a third before you folks finally understand that synthesis in the comic's world does not require the destruction of the participating elemets? What do you think happens to your consciousness when you go to sleep at night? Riot Bus posted:Are the people that keep saying that Courtnie specifically is dead joking or are they serious? Because that take in particular makes no sense to me.   I dunno if the previous example of 2 entities being merged into one said that both of the constituent parts are dead and one of said constituent parts agrees then you can forgive people for assuming that the same would hold for the 2nd example.
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Bussamove posted:Everyone knows the multiple of Annie is Anni. Multiple Annies is clearly a "handful".
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madjack posted:Multiple Annies is clearly a "handful". A Frustration of Carvers.
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Mar 12, 2021 04:48
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Phy posted:stack them all up on end, in a line I understand.
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skaianDestiny posted:
My point actually was that people seemed to think Courtnie was dead but Fannie wasn't. My argument is that either they are both dead or neither of them are. Deciding that Courtnie is specifically dead but Fannie is not is just bizarre.
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Bilirubin posted:A Burning of Annies A pyre of Annies.
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Mazerunner posted:why no e  The e is nowhere near the i on the keyboard. I think it's because while everyone calls her Annie, it sounds the same in my head as Anni and there's no e in her full name so my mind just drops it when I don't think about it. New chapter has a nice and foreboding title at least.
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Mar 12, 2021 10:04
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Looking forward to a cage match between the two Annies fighting for control of the body.
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Mar 12, 2021 10:14
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Kinda annoyed that the little preview image in the archives list is from the title page so nothing can be gleamed from it. Although that's hardly the case with those anyway.
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Mar 12, 2021 10:23
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Welcome to the mind cage, idiots.
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Phy posted:stack them all up on end, in a line Imagine two Annies on an edge of a cliff.
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Looking forward to a cage match between the two Annies fighting for control of the body. It's like driving a Jaeger in Pacific Rim.
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I swear I read somewhere recently in the comic where it was explained that the two Annies were the same person just from different points in time. Did I just imagine that?
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GlyphGryph posted:It doesnt happen with HUMANS. As the Anningler fish is subsumed by the other Anningler fish, the reproductive organs are used to birth new fire-children down the line without running afoul of the fire-soul question, both delighting and horrifying opponents/proponents of this age old fantheory. Now that I've written that horrifying image into existence, a follow-up question. Is there more gnashing of teeth for this current arc, or Anthony's entrance arc? I think Anthony's arc still has more teeth gnashing but to be fair so far we've only had what, 6 pages of the current arc that has been ticking people off.
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