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I feel if you're forum banned from more than one forum, regular banning you is just easier.
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Modding is incredibly arbitrary and often has more to do with enforcing fads within the forums as opposed to actual things. On the one hand, it is dumb because it enforces a kind of groupthink that stifles actual discussion. On the other hand, it does a great job fostering communities which are what make SA something special to this day. It's a very "broken windows" philosophy of enforcement but it makes the neighborhood a nice clean place where bad elements never really get a chance to take root. It's one of the reasons why SA doesn't have the Nazi problem that is endemic to the rest of the internet. A well maintained lawn doesn't have any beautiful wild flowers (RIP old internet) but it also doesn't have any noxious weeds .
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Mar 12, 2021 17:41
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VinylonUnderground posted:A well maintained lawn doesn't have any beautiful wild flowers
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Mar 12, 2021 18:58
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Given that you are one of the most beautiful wildflowers on the forum and have been permabanned more than once, I would think you of all people would understand the metaphor.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:09
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VinylonUnderground posted:Modding is incredibly arbitrary and often has more to do with enforcing fads within the forums as opposed to actual things. On the one hand, it is dumb because it enforces a kind of groupthink that stifles actual discussion. On the other hand, it does a great job fostering communities which are what make SA something special to this day. It's a very "broken windows" philosophy of enforcement but it makes the neighborhood a nice clean place where bad elements never really get a chance to take root. It's one of the reasons why SA doesn't have the Nazi problem that is endemic to the rest of the internet. A well maintained lawn doesn't have any beautiful wild flowers (RIP old internet) but it also doesn't have any noxious weeds . So the moderator crew is basically the home owner's association of the forums. That's...a pretty apt metaphor.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:09
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Neo_Crimson posted:Kerning Chameleon was banned from D&D, ADTRW, and CSPAM for being too insane (lol) before being permabanned. Iirc he was also banned from a few GBS threads. Just a profoundly weird and unpleasant dude.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:18
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Who What Now posted:You can post in the gas chamber? No.  I'm not sure if it is a forums permission thing or if all the threads are just closed.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:55
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Antivehicular posted:(I know that there was a recent poster who was intended to have special coding to only be able to see PYF, but that seems to have ended very badly before it could be implemented.) Anyone got more on this? While PYF's my beat, I don't recall ever hearing about that. Could they only see PYF, or only post here?
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Mar 12, 2021 19:56
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Anyone got more on this? While PYF's my beat, I don't recall ever hearing about that. Could they only see PYF, or only post here? Wasn't that Dailokotos? They had planned to set something up like that, but then they just got perma'd because they were harrassing people over pms I think.
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Mar 12, 2021 20:05
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Yeah it turns out that posters who are bad enough that multiple subforums tell them to get lost aren't really well suited to be posting here at all. Really makes you think.
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Mar 12, 2021 20:25
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Anyone got more on this? While PYF's my beat, I don't recall ever hearing about that. Could they only see PYF, or only post here? There was a poster who, by his own acknowledgement, had a very unhealthy relationship with the forums at large. He did however have a good outlet in PMF and behaved well in PYF, so when things came to a head and he was next up for a permaban I advocated to instead trim down his forums permissions to only ones in which he seemed happy and productive. His recent (at the time) posting had me worried about his mental health and I did not want to see him suddenly and completely cut off from his only resource. The poster agreed to this experiment enthusiastically but it went about as well as any of you here probably could have advised me that it would have.
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Mar 12, 2021 21:29
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No one should ever be banned or permabanned. Only hellbans should exist and if you're hellbanned only other hellbanned posts should be viewable.
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Mar 12, 2021 21:55
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Solice Kirsk posted:No one should ever be banned or permabanned. Only hellbans should exist and if you're hellbanned only other hellbanned posts should be viewable. an actual leper's colony i wonder, would users in good standing be able to VIEW the leper's colony? maybe just the thread titles, "seeing it from the outside" to make it thematic?
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Mar 12, 2021 21:59
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Lib and let die posted:an actual leper's colony 
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:There was a poster who, by his own acknowledgement, had a very unhealthy relationship with the forums at large. He did however have a good outlet in PMF and behaved well in PYF, so when things came to a head and he was next up for a permaban I advocated to instead trim down his forums permissions to only ones in which he seemed happy and productive. His recent (at the time) posting had me worried about his mental health and I did not want to see him suddenly and completely cut off from his only resource. The poster agreed to this experiment enthusiastically but it went about as well as any of you here probably could have advised me that it would have. And he made a pretty grotesque appearance in this thread just recently and it really drove home that these forums are not good for him
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Mar 12, 2021 23:24
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:There was a poster who, by his own acknowledgement, had a very unhealthy relationship with the forums at large. He did however have a good outlet in PMF and behaved well in PYF, so when things came to a head and he was next up for a permaban I advocated to instead trim down his forums permissions to only ones in which he seemed happy and productive. His recent (at the time) posting had me worried about his mental health and I did not want to see him suddenly and completely cut off from his only resource. The poster agreed to this experiment enthusiastically but it went about as well as any of you here probably could have advised me that it would have. You tried 
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Mar 12, 2021 23:34
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:There was a poster who, by his own acknowledgement, had a very unhealthy relationship with the forums at large. He did however have a good outlet in PMF and behaved well in PYF, so when things came to a head and he was next up for a permaban I advocated to instead trim down his forums permissions to only ones in which he seemed happy and productive. His recent (at the time) posting had me worried about his mental health and I did not want to see him suddenly and completely cut off from his only resource. The poster agreed to this experiment enthusiastically but it went about as well as any of you here probably could have advised me that it would have. I unironically love that you tried to find a way for him to have a healthy relationship with the forums, even in a much-narrowed form. You’re so good. 
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Mar 13, 2021 00:32
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Lima posted:You tried 
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Mar 13, 2021 00:43
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Solice Kirsk posted:No one should ever be banned or permabanned. Only hellbans should exist and if you're hellbanned only other hellbanned posts should be viewable. that would result in a secret underforum that would make 4chan look like pet island
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Mar 13, 2021 00:47
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whenever goons find secret underforums they seem to start sexting so this probably isn't a good idea
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Mar 13, 2021 00:52
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You guys are really kind, thank you  Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:whenever goons find secret underforums they seem to start sexting so this probably isn't a good idea 
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Mar 13, 2021 00:58
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yeah it should be more like a "bad posts gulag". confine bad or otherwise quarrelsome posters to only be able to post (and in extreme cases, only be able to read) in a special subforum for a certain amount of time. don't make it totally unmoderated though, you still need to drop bans for really bad poo poo. also other people should be able to view and participate in the gulag.
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Mar 13, 2021 01:01
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Call it the Whine Cellar
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Mar 13, 2021 01:02
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SA's Greatest Secret Sexting Underforums
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Mar 13, 2021 01:02
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Pick posted:Call it the Whine Cellar 
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Mar 13, 2021 01:11
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Pick posted:Call it the Whine Cellar Oh I like this! Someone text Jeff, once again the SA's Greatest Sagas thread has solved all the forum's problems!
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Mar 13, 2021 01:21
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:yeah it should be more like a "bad posts gulag". confine bad or otherwise quarrelsome posters to only be able to post (and in extreme cases, only be able to read) in a special subforum for a certain amount of time. don't make it totally unmoderated though, you still need to drop bans for really bad poo poo. I suggested that at a forum I used to moderate. The counter argument was that having a secret forum carries with it a certain amount of "cred". My counter to that counter argument is that if we trap all the bad posters in one area no one else can see: who cares? There was an attempt at a compromise where other posters could go in there too. Never materialized.
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VinylonUnderground posted:I suggested that at a forum I used to moderate. The counter argument was that having a secret forum carries with it a certain amount of "cred". My counter to that counter argument is that if we trap all the bad posters in one area no one else can see: who cares? There was an attempt at a compromise where other posters could go in there too. Never materialized. SA already has a secret forum and if anything it gives the posters there even less cred!
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Mar 13, 2021 01:42
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Who What Now posted:SA already has a secret forum and if anything it gives the posters there even less cred! It's true, nobody respects the mods
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Mar 13, 2021 02:11
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No mods No masters
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Mar 13, 2021 02:32
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oldpainless posted:No mods
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Mar 13, 2021 02:39
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Mar 13, 2021 02:43
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The Mod Masters would have been a pretty great name for a ska themed 90's tag team wrestling team.
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Mar 13, 2021 02:51
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That would have been incredible and I'm already regretful it never happened
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Mar 13, 2021 02:58
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:yeah it should be more like a "bad posts gulag". confine bad or otherwise quarrelsome posters to only be able to post (and in extreme cases, only be able to read) in a special subforum for a certain amount of time. don't make it totally unmoderated though, you still need to drop bans for really bad poo poo. I've been advocating for a form of probation like this. Essentially they are locked in there for a bit. No one else can post in it so it could be a forum of fine Art or people screaming into the void. The timer makes it all the better (they may actually fear release). Others cannot post in it. My working title was The Comedy Pick posted:Call it the Whine Cellar But I'd happily differ to that suggestion
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Mar 13, 2021 03:04
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Rooted Vegetable posted:I've been advocating for a form of probation like this. Essentially they are locked in there for a bit. No one else can post in it so it could be a forum of fine Art or people screaming into the void. The timer makes it all the better (they may actually fear release). Isn't that post my favorite
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Mar 13, 2021 03:05
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I know this is from a page back but I actually really like Ice Phish's cyberpunk cyoa
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Mar 13, 2021 07:17
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Guy Mann/Of Science/Sleeveless is forum banned from Games and Cinema Discusso, I don’t know of anyone with more than two forum bans. A CD mod banned me because I was making fun of the shortcomings of the Joker movie and its fans at a time when the kind of breathless nerd that thought it was going to inspire IRL mass shootings was running slipshod over the forums. Games was a brand new mod swinging their dick around on their first day of modship and working through some stupid grudge they had over an old post I made based on some information that wound out to be inaccurate. In both cases I was totally in the right and the subforums are worse off for the decisions of the people in power acting on hurt feelings rather than enforcing actual rules.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:A CD mod banned me because I was making fun of the shortcomings of the Joker movie and its fans at a time when the kind of breathless nerd that thought it was going to inspire IRL mass shootings was running slipshod over the forums. Games was a brand new mod swinging their dick around on their first day of modship and working through some stupid grudge they had over an old post I made based on some information that wound out to be inaccurate. In both cases I was totally in the right and the subforums are worse off for the decisions of the people in power acting on hurt feelings rather than enforcing actual rules. Shut up Guy Mann
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...of SCIENCE! posted:A CD mod banned me because I was making fun of the shortcomings of the Joker movie and its fans at a time when the kind of breathless nerd that thought it was going to inspire IRL mass shootings was running slipshod over the forums. Games was a brand new mod swinging their dick around on their first day of modship and working through some stupid grudge they had over an old post I made based on some information that wound out to be inaccurate. In both cases I was totally in the right and the subforums are worse off for the decisions of the people in power acting on hurt feelings rather than enforcing actual rules. Hey remember when you posted a "worst movies of the decade" thread in CD and got so mad that people replied with Age of Ultron that you closed the thread? Pretty pathetic imo. Or hey do you remember when you got banned for saying that a minor who got assaulted tricked the perpetrator into doing it for the attention? Should have been a perma imo.
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