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Cthulu Carl posted:I recently learned that during the Guadalcanal campaign a US fighter pilot tried to attack a Japanese bomber, found nd out he was out if ammo, and so lowered his landing gear and proceeded to pummel the cockpit with his tires. There was also this incident.
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"Dickslapped by a jetfighter over the canal" should really be a novel.
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Mar 12, 2021 18:32
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By popular demand posted:"Dickslapped by a jetfighter over the canal" should really be a novel. Chuck Tingle where are you when we need you
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Mar 12, 2021 18:33
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"Pounded in the cockpit by..."
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Mar 12, 2021 18:36
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Ramming wasn't common, but it's something that pilots did in WW2. The Royal Airforce derailed V1 (cruise) missiles by giving them a push with their wing. Late in the war, the Germans tried to make plane rammings a thing. They were producing more planes than pilots and in order to reliably take down a bomber, they had throwaway planes that would intentionally collide with and shear off the vertical stabilizer from bomber planes. Didn't work out.
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Mar 12, 2021 18:38
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Lord Stimperor posted:Ramming wasn't common, but it's something that pilots did in WW2. The Royal Airforce derailed V1 (cruise) missiles by giving them a push with their wing. Late in the war, the Germans tried to make plane rammings a thing. They were producing more planes than pilots and in order to reliably take down a bomber, they had throwaway planes that would intentionally collide with and shear off the vertical stabilizer from bomber planes. Didn't work out. The BA 349 "Natter" is about the most ridiculous version of this.  The idea was that when Allied bombers were spotted overhead this solid rocket would be launched vertically on a pole, set to autopilot because the G-forces of the rapid ascent would cause the pilot to black out. The pilot would regain consciousness and take control of the aircraft and the nosecone would pop off to reveal the shitload of unguided rockets. These were aimed literally with that goofy rear end ring in front of the cockpit in the above picture. When out of rockets the pilot was supposed to ram himself into an Allied bomber, although supposedly they later scrapped the whole suicide part but that was so close to the end of the war who knows. Punkinhead fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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Mar 12, 2021 18:50
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At first I thought those are nipples, for some weird fetish play.
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Mar 12, 2021 18:57
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"Ok Hans, you're out of missiles, ram one of the bombers" "Whoopsies, I seem to have missed and my rocket has burned out, guess I should just land now. Maybe next time"
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Mar 12, 2021 18:59
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It's a great example of how Nazis are almost completely beyond parody. That thing would fit seamlessly in Wolfenstein, or the pilot blacking out during take-off is the kind of poo poo you'd expect from 40k lore.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:02
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It used to work in warthunder. The wing root is much more tough than the tip, and for the Zero, the root went out to like, the midpoint. Resulting in this: http://imgur.com/gallery/6BvDG2b
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Mar 12, 2021 19:06
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PinheadSlim posted:It's a great example of how Nazis are almost completely beyond parody. That thing would fit seamlessly in Wolfenstein, or the pilot blacking out during take-off is the kind of poo poo you'd expect from 40k lore. Coal. Dust. Ramjet. That rams its enemies.
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PinheadSlim posted:It's a great example of how Nazis are almost completely beyond parody. That thing would fit seamlessly in Wolfenstein, or the pilot blacking out during take-off is the kind of poo poo you'd expect from 40k lore. The Stuka had the same issue, they invented an auto-dive pullup system because the pilots could blackout in the dive and, naturally, you don't want them to hit the ground. quote:The pilot released the bomb and initiated the automatic pull-out mechanism by depressing a knob on the control column.[25] An elongated U-shaped crutch located under the fuselage swung the bomb out of the way of the propeller, and the aircraft automatically began a 6g pullout.[25] Once the nose was above the horizon, dive brakes were retracted, the throttle was opened, and the propeller was set to climb. The pilot regained control and resumed normal flight. The coolant flaps had to be reopened quickly to prevent overheating. The automatic pull-out was not liked by all pilots. Helmut Mahlke later said that he and his unit disconnected the system because it allowed the enemy to predict the Ju 87's recovery pattern and height, making it easier for ground defences to hit an aircraft.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:07
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Sininu posted:Wtf One guy flew by a IJN ship and shot at them with his sidearm.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:11
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Why isn't that in some terrible Michael Bay film yet?
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Mar 12, 2021 19:12
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Mar 12, 2021 19:13
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Cojawfee posted:"Ok Hans, you're out of missiles, ram one of the bombers" You can't land. You dismantle the aircraft and jump out. Parachute included.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:16
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By popular demand posted:Why isn't that in some terrible Michael Bay film yet? Have you or have you not seen Pearl Harbor? Also I'd watch the poo poo out of a video series detailing the dumbest/ballsiest poo poo ever formally documented during WW2/Korea/Vietnam. Just nonstop action hero movie bullshit, coupled with 'this is complete loving stupid, but gently caress it, yolo' like strafing a IJN ship with your corsair and leaning your rear end out the cockpit and shooting at it with your 1911. Methylethylaldehyde fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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Mar 12, 2021 19:16
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I did but it's really hard to actually pay attention to that poo poo.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:18
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Also I'd watch the poo poo out of a video series detailing the dumbest/ballsiest poo poo ever formally documented during WW2/Korea/Vietnam. Just nonstop action hero movie bullshit, coupled with 'this is complete loving stupid, but gently caress it, yolo' like strafing a IJN ship with your corsair and leaning your rear end out the cockpit and shooting at it with your 1911. A film of the Battle off Samar would pretty much do it.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:20
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CitizenKain posted:One guy flew by a IJN ship and shot at them with his sidearm. In the Battle off Samar, there are accounts of pilots running out of ammo after strafing IJN ships continuing to make dry runs, because anything they could do to slow down damage control or distract AA fire away from planes with ammo bought that much more time for the surprised escort fleet to escape. Similarly, torpedo planes made multiple dry runs for the same reason. That same battle also had the only gun duel between warships won by a carrier, when the escort carrier White Plains scored a 5-inch gun hit on the Chokai, detonating her oxygen torpedos, crippling her, and leaving her vulnerable to later airstrikes. However, while the White Plains is generally credited with the hit, there is some ambiguity as the Chokai's logs claimed the immobilizing damage came from a bomb strike.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:22
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I guess it's easier to do that kind of stuff when you really think you're fighting for the future of liberty and freedom over the tyranny of the axis powers as compared to now when you're just some guy who exists to justify funneling money in Raytheon and General Dynamics.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:22
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Phanatic posted:A film of the Battle off Samar would pretty much do it. poo poo, just doing a movie on Taffy 3 would be amazing. You could pack 90 minutes of intrigue, drama, and a shitton of Michael Bay tier action and explosions into that. And modern CGI means you can finally get a naval duel that includes ships actually getting hit in a way that isn't obviously Hollywood gasoline fireballs and fireworks.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:32
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PinheadSlim posted:Very true, the F104 Starfighter was the first fighter jet capable of hitting Mach 2 and it has a pretty wild accident rate among all adopters. One even tried it's best to kill Chuck Yeager. Anyways Canada ended up losing 46% of their Starfighters. I'd just like to point put there was a whole movie made about the f104 that became an MST3K episode! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dDumDN3Y5I
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Mar 12, 2021 19:39
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Cojawfee posted:I guess it's easier to do that kind of stuff when you really think you're fighting for the future of liberty and freedom over the tyranny of the axis powers as compared to now when you're just some guy who exists to justify funneling money in Raytheon and General Dynamics. I'm actually reading Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors about Samar. It was probably also a lot easier to do that poo poo when your group is a bunch of small escort carriers, small destroyers, and tiny destroyer escorts and you're the only thing between the landing fleet and the loving Yamato. I've been slow reading it so some details are skipping, but didn't one Navy pilot draw his sidearm on a major at an airfield because the dude refused to give him some bombs?
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Mar 12, 2021 19:40
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PinheadSlim posted:The BA 349 "Natter" is about the most ridiculous version of this. Tagged for Trypophobia content
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Mar 12, 2021 19:41
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Tag your luftwaffenFlugzeugs people, jeez!
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Mar 12, 2021 19:46
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There's not enough amphetamine laced chocolate in the world to make me fly in any of the experimental late war nazi planes.
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Mar 12, 2021 19:51
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Lord Stimperor posted:Ramming wasn't common, but it's something that pilots did in WW2. It's something that happened already in WW1. Makes sense given how bad early war fighter weaponry was (often just the pilot's handgun).
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Mar 12, 2021 20:00
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Cthulu Carl posted:I'm actually reading Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors about Samar. It was probably also a lot easier to do that poo poo when your group is a bunch of small escort carriers, small destroyers, and tiny destroyer escorts and you're the only thing between the landing fleet and the loving Yamato. Wasn't that he was refused bombs, he just didn't have any and couldn't land to get more. He had already dropped whatever he was armed with when he got airborne and also had made so many strafing runs that he was out of ammo in his guns too. See, the Japanese didn't have any air cover, whenever they saw American planes lining up for an attack, they couldn't know if there was actually a torpedo in there or if they were just opening up their bombbay and making a deception run. So the big ship would have to take evasive measures because a single torpedo hit in a bad place was enough knock them out of action. He apparently was so fed up with making these dummy runs that on one of them he popped open his cockpit, drew his sidearm, flipped the aircraft upside down and bucked off a few shots out of sheer frustration of not being able to do anything useful. He was quite clear in telling the story that not only did he not accomplish anything by doing it, but that he didn't expect to either. I'm not going to make any claims about whether that actually happened or whether it was just a badass story, but I will say that it's about it's only about the 12th most crazy thing that happened that day.
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Mar 12, 2021 20:35
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Azathoth posted:I'm not going to make any claims about whether that actually happened or whether it was just a badass story, but I will say that it's about it's only about the 12th most crazy thing that happened that day. The White Plains basically did the warship version of this and took out a cruiser, so...
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Mar 12, 2021 21:02
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yeah samar was completely nuts. destroyers charging battleships and the large battleship shells just punching right through the destroyer, looney tunes style, causing minimal damage - because the shells were designed to hit much larger ships at much greater distance. it got so hairy that american pilots stopped searching for their own home carriers and just landed on any friendly carrier to get gassed up and rearmed if you're not a milhist nerd - during the american re-capture of the philippines in late 1943 and as part of a complex series of battles called the battle of leyte gulf, a large force of japanese heavy ships (including the largest battleship ever built, ever) completely jumps on a small escort force (taffy 3) of light carriers and destroyers screening the offloading of defenseless transports off the coast of the island of samar. the japanese heaviest battleship ever, yamato, by itself outweighed all other american ships in taffy 3 combined. the american force can't even run away fast enough because the escort carriers are too slow. so the escorting destroyers charge directly into the teeth of the japanese force, putting on a tremendous show of hopeless bravery before many of them get shot to pieces. their resistance was enough to prevent the japanese ships from shooting up the allied transports
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Mar 12, 2021 21:26
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Azathoth posted:Wasn't that he was refused bombs, he just didn't have any and couldn't land to get more. He had already dropped whatever he was armed with when he got airborne and also had made so many strafing runs that he was out of ammo in his guns too. I remember the potshot dude, I just seem to recall another incident with one of the guys who landed at Tacloban, but could be misremembering entirely with all the other insanity from that fight.
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By popular demand posted:At first I thought those are nipples, for some weird fetish play. "OK class, gather round, come in close to make sure you got a good view, can everyone see this post? Good, now kids, this right here is why you Don't. Look. At. Photoshopped. Lotus. Pod. Titties. That poo poo will break your brain."
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This is just one of the ways modern German society has evolved: whereas to a Nazi that stupid airplane design is means to kill and destroy to the modern German this multi nippled thing is strictly for pleasure involving consenting adults. Good job Germany.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:07
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is this the Truck-Nuts equivalent in Thailand?
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Mar 12, 2021 22:30
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I would not be surprised if some German RC club built a scale model of all of those weird planes. Like those insane people who built a 1:13 model of an A380 with working landing gear and everything. Imaging getting hit by that thing. Someone also built a loving 1:6 scale Concorde. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P0ByxIymYg&t=187s
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:yeah samar was completely nuts. destroyers charging battleships and the large battleship shells just punching right through the destroyer, looney tunes style, causing minimal damage - because the shells were designed to hit much larger ships at much greater distance. it got so hairy that american pilots stopped searching for their own home carriers and just landed on any friendly carrier to get gassed up and rearmed Jesus Christ. I was complaining because I just had a fingat up my rear end in a camera shoved in my dickhole. These dudes were possibly getting killed.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:42
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Antigravitas posted:I would not be surprised if some German RC club built a scale model of all of those weird planes. Like those insane people who built a 1:13 model of an A380 with working landing gear and everything. Imaging getting hit by that thing. As a german who dabbled in model planes: yes, every weird nazi plane has meticulously been rebuild as an RC plane by some old german dude who totally is not a nazi!
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Cthulu Carl posted:I remember the potshot dude, I just seem to recall another incident with one of the guys who landed at Tacloban, but could be misremembering entirely with all the other insanity from that fight. That's entirely possible as well, I don't personally remember that and my copy is in storage, so I can't check. The worst part of the Battle off Samar is that it absolutely didn't need to happen. Bull Halsey left that approach to the landing beaches undefended because he assumed he'd sufficiently mauled the Japanese and they would continue retreating so he didn't bother to arrange for defense in the gap he left when he rushed off to be there personally to finish off the Japanese carriers. If he had bothered to even ask, Admiral Jesse Oldendorf could easily have detached battleships from the invasion beaches to cover, ships that would have been more than a match for remainder of the Japanese fleet. But Halsey didn't and not only did he not do that, he issued orders that gave the impression to his superiors that he had. Halsey then, when called out by his boss for his error, threw a hissyfit for about a half hour before sending help.
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