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Tom Nicholas destroys Johnny Harris with facts and logic It's about a sponsor-deal for a video I somehow don't remember watching. Still caught me by surprise that someone who produces overtly political content for a living got suckered into something that is so blatantly political propaganda.
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Mar 12, 2021 20:51
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:ThoughtSlime is, as usual, good and right. Slime's cool, he got challenged to a ~debate~ by some weird tankie and his answer was "why the gently caress would I indulge that"
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Mar 12, 2021 20:52
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Dias posted:Rowling probably has some heavy baggage she didn't have any chance to unpack because she became Rich As gently caress first and rich people don't need to do any self-reflecting. She made a big deal about being homeless while she wrote the first novel, but I heard she was mainly just sofa-surfing in her mates big townhouses in Edinburgh, so she probably had cursed upper-middle class British brain to begin with.
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Mar 12, 2021 21:03
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"As poor as it is possible to be in modern Britain, without being homeless" Apparently she was just on welfare and social housing stuff.
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Mar 12, 2021 21:11
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literally a temporarily embarrassed millionaire
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Mar 12, 2021 21:12
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BigRed0427 posted:
I'm bringing this up. Give me some magical breaking bad, or like a show about truckers who are also wizards, making their way through magical trucker life. Suddenly their magic truck breaks down and they have to survive against deadly magical desert creatures for the night until a blue collar wizard mechanic arrives. Edit: And yes, his wand is a wrench. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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Mar 12, 2021 21:17
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Dias posted:Slime's cool, he got challenged to a ~debate~ by some weird tankie and his answer was "why the gently caress would I indulge that" do you mean when TS tried to do some weird sick burn about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact being proof anarchists are better than communists, and when even other anarchists pointed out what a dogshit slam that was because the pact was signed after the Soviets got their plan to form an antifascist bloc with the UK and France rejected and they had no real other option but to sign a non-aggression deal they knew would be broken they got really huffy and accused the other anarchists of wanting to murder the ~real anarchists~ because that's what all communists really want? TS is loving stupid as hell my dude, like easily one of the dumbest on breadtube poo poo.
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Mar 12, 2021 21:39
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I think we’ve reached the point where you shouldn’t take anyone who says tankie seriously Though this applies to any shorthand used to delegitimization your opponent without needing engagement I suppose CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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Mar 12, 2021 21:41
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'hey you're saying something kinda dumb, your version of things isn't accurate and also completely absolves the capitalists in the west from their outright support and positivity to Hitler's Germany' 'lol I bet you want to literally murder me, a youtube moron, like all communists do' What an epic smackdown of tankies.
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Mar 12, 2021 21:51
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I mean, has he said anything dangerously wrong in his videos? Because that's all I care about. I don't give a poo poo if he's wildin' out on some petty business on Twitter. Everyone is the worst version of themselves on Twitter.
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Mar 12, 2021 21:55
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I dunno he's an anarchist so probably but I'm not watching that stuff
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Mar 12, 2021 21:58
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think we’ve reached the point where you shouldn’t take anyone who says tankie seriously No, tankie is good like chud is, you just use it for Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim, CCP rear end kissers instead of Hitler and Pinochet and so on rear end kissers.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:06
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sexpig by night posted:do you mean when TS tried to do some weird sick burn about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact being proof anarchists are better than communists, and when even other anarchists pointed out what a dogshit slam that was because the pact was signed after the Soviets got their plan to form an antifascist bloc with the UK and France rejected and they had no real other option but to sign a non-aggression deal they knew would be broken they got really huffy and accused the other anarchists of wanting to murder the ~real anarchists~ because that's what all communists really want? I think it was because this random dude called redlight or whatever challenged him to a debate and debates are inherently stupid and worthless but sure, whatever floats your boat. Also, tankie.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:10
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I have absolutely no idea what sectarian arguments are motivating all this but TS passes the sniff test for me in that his policies and beliefs seem rooted in a desire for the wellbeing of others and disdain for power.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:13
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DoctorWhat posted:I have absolutely no idea what sectarian arguments are motivating all this but TS passes the sniff test for me in that his policies and beliefs seem rooted in a desire for the wellbeing of others and disdain for power. I'unno, he's chill, would eat edibles with the dude and Bobby Duke.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:19
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foolishness. without power, how can you hope to protect the ones that you love? YERRRAAAAAAAGH~
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Mar 12, 2021 22:19
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is vergil, son of sparda, a tankie: the longest thread in the history of forums
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Mar 12, 2021 22:28
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Dias posted:I think it was because this random dude called redlight or whatever challenged him to a debate and debates are inherently stupid and worthless but sure, whatever floats your boat. Also, tankie. debates are stupid and worthless when they're against people guaranteed to argue in bad faith. i think leftists can probably debate each other or at least discuss different perspectives on the same historical event without devolving into bad faith exchanges.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:29
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DoctorWhat posted:is vergil, son of sparda, a tankie: the longest thread in the history of forums I think he's just a monarchist, dude's way too into Victorian era cosplay and other Romantic bullshit. Also y'know, son of a Feudal Lord and all. Impermanent posted:debates are stupid and worthless when they're against people guaranteed to argue in bad faith. i think leftists can probably debate each other or at least discuss different perspectives on the same historical event without devolving into bad faith exchanges. I don't think anyone ever set an "internet debate" without the intent of WINNING it, which is the problem. Cue that Sarah Z video, etc. Dias fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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Mar 12, 2021 22:33
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sexpig by night posted:I dunno he's an anarchist so probably but I'm not watching that stuff I also have strong feelings about people that I've never actually listened to, because I have the strongest, most powerful brain of them all. Thought Slime refuses to debate me and mine because he's AFRAID of being destroyed on the battlefield of logic and reason, and not because they have a long history of disdain for online debates.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:49
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyBEBVEMweI
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Mar 12, 2021 22:55
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sexpig by night posted:I dunno he's an anarchist so probably but I'm not watching that stuff DoctorWhat posted:I have absolutely no idea what sectarian arguments are motivating all this but TS passes the sniff test for me in that his policies and beliefs seem rooted in a desire for the wellbeing of others and disdain for power. yea these are both basically correct although most of the time he isn't really talking about the kind of stuff that anarchists are really annoying about. mostly he just says kind of banal or obvious things with a kind of stage presence one can only describe as "guy who took multiple calligraphy classes in college." He's an inoffensive non-grifting version of peter coffin.
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Mar 12, 2021 22:59
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egg tats posted:I also have strong feelings about people that I've never actually listened to, because I have the strongest, most powerful brain of them all. Thought Slime refuses to debate me and mine because he's AFRAID of being destroyed on the battlefield of logic and reason, and not because they have a long history of disdain for online debates. I reacted to a thing he did, I'm not gonna watch all his videos to monitor for other weird lies. I'm sorry? I don't want to debate him, debates are stupid.
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Mar 12, 2021 23:07
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thought slime seems like a good person. i have anarchist and marxist friends and i've only had to break up one argument in the past year
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Mar 12, 2021 23:07
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egg tats posted:I also have strong feelings about people that I've never actually listened to, because I have the strongest, most powerful brain of them all. Thought Slime refuses to debate me and mine because he's AFRAID of being destroyed on the battlefield of logic and reason, and not because they have a long history of disdain for online debates. A knight without his king is a sad sight
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Mar 12, 2021 23:15
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sexpig by night posted:I dunno he's an anarchist so probably but I'm not watching that stuff e; not that you have to watch his videos but "he said something stupid on twitter and is an anarchist so he's probably said something harmful in his videos" is dumb, and as far as I am aware wrong. Gwen fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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Mar 12, 2021 23:41
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teh youtube anarchist lol
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Mar 12, 2021 23:48
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"heh, yet you live in society, curious" and the rest
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Mar 12, 2021 23:51
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you can't say anything harmful if your big gun videos are stuff like "feels like calling people degenerates is a bad idea" and other incisive, devastating insights
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Mar 12, 2021 23:54
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Tankies gets misused a lot for sure but using it to describe those authoritarian communists who are still way into imperialism is very good. I say this as someone who doesn't buy into the vanguard idea at all.
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Mar 13, 2021 00:07
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I mean this thread is debating whether or not tankie is a legit term on the same page someone made excuses for the Soviet invasion and occupation of its neighbours whilst providing material aide to the German war machine.
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Mar 13, 2021 00:15
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All you ever need to see to understand why tankie is a valuable "lol gently caress off" phrase is to see one of the insane Kim/DPRK apologists who have absolutely drowned themselves in the gin and juche.
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Mar 13, 2021 00:20
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nah tankie as term might be rooted in anti-soviet american propaganda but that doesn't mean it's actual usage is always incorrect. CharlestheHammer posted:Though this applies to any shorthand used to delegitimization your opponent without needing engagement I suppose
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Mar 13, 2021 00:21
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BFC posted:nah tankie as term might be rooted in anti-soviet american propaganda but that doesn't mean it's actual usage is always incorrect. The term comes from the Communist Party of Great Britain membership who were about to leave in disgust and used it to criticise the other members who were so far gone they still openly supported the destruction of Budapest by soviet tanks. It has nothing to do with American propaganda, you can trace back the terms first appearance in print to an interview in the late 50s with a hardline Stalinist who accepted the designation as an accurate one.
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Mar 13, 2021 00:25
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I've only seen a couple of his vids but Thought Slime seems like a cool dood. Also, tankies (the term itself) is good when it's not being used by conservatives/neolibs to describe anyone who wants universal healthcare lol
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Mar 13, 2021 00:34
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genuinely thanks for the history lesson. I'd heard muddied things on the origin.
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Mar 13, 2021 00:34
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Yardbomb posted:All you ever need to see to understand why tankie is a valuable "lol gently caress off" phrase is to see one of the insane Kim/DPRK apologists who have absolutely drowned themselves in the gin and juche. Yeah, there are Marxist Leninists who I disagree with but can respect and overall feel like we're working towards the same goal and there are /pol/ doomposting tankies which aren't worth engaging and eventually become so insufferable they get exiled from leftist spaces anyway... Regardless, I was just saying Slime is cool and ignores the latter. I apologize for using the t-word, comrades.
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Mar 13, 2021 00:37
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think we’ve reached the point where you shouldn’t take anyone who says tankie seriously
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Mar 13, 2021 00:54
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in practice tankie is used for pretty much anyone who engages in even mild criticism of imperialism so it's hard to take seriously. if I see it I'm asking myself "so are they referring to a media literate skeptic of WMDs in Iraq or some nazbol kid"
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Mar 13, 2021 01:02
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CYBEReris posted:even mild criticism of imperialism Huh, a bunch of tankies fuckin love imperialism if it's The Right People doing it.
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Mar 13, 2021 01:06
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