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I wonder how many drones you can get for an f35 wanna see one of those mass choreographed Chinese propaganda videos as a thousand chad drones swarm the virgin usaf f35
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Mar 12, 2021 22:54
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Centrist Committee posted:wanna see one of those mass choreographed Chinese propaganda videos as a thousand chad drones swarm the virgin usaf f35 this is honestly the future of war. not necessarily against F-35s, but everything else? way cheaper and probably just as effective
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Mar 12, 2021 22:57
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lol if you think the US MIC is decaying, watching the PLA/N going to war would be funny with forces that haven’t seen combat in a generation. Trying to critique the US military from the left by arguing that they wouldn’t be as effective in conventional combat is a losing argument I’m reminded of teary eyed leftist podcasters talking about Soleimani and how Iran would have some cunning revenge attack of the perfect proportionality
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Mar 13, 2021 00:25
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The US has a losing streak of their Asian destroyers against container ships so I wouldn't be so sure that they are an unstoppable force
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Mar 13, 2021 00:36
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arguing the US doesn’t have drone warfare expertise is an interesting perspective for purported leftists to have
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Mar 13, 2021 00:48
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Ardennes posted:Then you have the Ford that is still having problems with its catapult (as of March 2021, 4 years after it was commissioned) and it still isn't ready for combat. quote:You know the catapult is quite important. So I said what is this? Sir, this is our digital catapult system. He said well, we’re going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern [technology]. I said you don’t use steam anymore for catapult? No sir. I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.” quote:"Steam's only worked for about 65 years perfectly. And I won't tell you this because it's before my time by a little bit, but they have a $900 million cost overrun on this crazy electric catapult. They want to show — next, next, next. And we all want innovation, but it's too much," Trump told the sailors on Monday. Trump was right
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Mar 13, 2021 00:48
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shrike82 posted:arguing the US doesn’t have drone warfare expertise is an interesting perspective for purported leftists to have thanks obama
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Mar 13, 2021 00:51
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can’t wait for leftist Tom Clancy milporn
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Mar 13, 2021 00:52
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Lol the VCD of carrier catapults.
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Mar 13, 2021 01:02
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gradenko_2000 posted:Trump was right the usa is steadily digitizing its navy into being inoperative from what i understand
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Mar 13, 2021 01:11
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https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3125238/tokyo-slams-beijings-revamp-electoral-system-hong-kong-japanesequote:Tokyo slams Beijing’s revamp of electoral system in Hong Kong, with Japanese firms wary of legislation changes lol
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Mar 13, 2021 01:22
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Yeah, the increasingly open apologism going on in Japan for wartime fascists isn’t a great look but also pretty baked in after Kishi took power. The US military has plenty of punch left but much of that is from modernization of late Cold War equipment, the real boondoggles have been since 2000.
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Mar 13, 2021 01:37
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shrike82 posted:lol if you think the US MIC is decaying, watching the PLA/N going to war would be funny with forces that haven’t seen combat in a generation. the MIC clearly is decaying in some ways, the F35 is a funny debacle, the navy has been consultant-ized into slipping operational standards, overwork and poor morale, but obviously it still packs a punch and is going to likely win conventional wars because the sheer amount of resources poured into it is going to yield results whether us drone warfare has been caught up to/is counterable by other countries arsenals is something idk about also what the gently caress is wrong with your stupid poo poo brain that compels you to constantly post agro garbage in this thread taking brave stands against the posting enemies in your head
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Mar 13, 2021 02:14
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mila kunis posted:the MIC clearly is decaying in some ways, the F35 is a funny debacle, the navy has been consultant-ized into slipping operational standards, overwork and poor morale, but obviously it still packs a punch and is going to likely win conventional wars because the sheer amount of resources poured into it is going to yield results Well for the next 10-15 years or so at least. One thing though is we have chronically underestimated both Chinese spending and capabilities by not properly adjusting for PPP. The vast majority of their equipment is either produced locally or bought from the Russians and their soldiers are paid in Yuan. Their costs are naturally going to be lower than ours. Nevertheless, they still spend about half what we do adjusted. That said, Chinese spending is rapidly increasing and if not gaining. Unfortunately, this also only gives the MIC more ammo to expand budgets in return. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 02:33 on Mar 13, 2021 |
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Mar 13, 2021 02:28
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F35 is not that bad of a plane, compare to the competition. But China has a AA missile that's twice the range. Anyway I am very glad Maverick is not flying a F35 in Topgun 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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Mar 13, 2021 02:49
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i'm more interested in whether 100 chinese soldiers can beat 100 indian soldiers in the kashmir valley using unarmed combat and bats what's the over/under on that
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Mar 13, 2021 02:54
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China would be better served pouring resources into seawalls
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Mar 13, 2021 03:26
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shrike82 posted:lol if you think the US MIC is decaying, watching the PLA/N going to war would be funny with forces that haven’t seen combat in a generation. It is pretty wild how Iran's only response was accidentally blowing up a passenger airline full of Canadians and then getting one of their premier nuclear scientists assassinated
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Mar 13, 2021 04:13
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VideoTapir posted:China would be better served pouring resources into seawalls how easily can seawalls be destroyed by aerial bombing
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Mar 13, 2021 04:17
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shrike82 posted:lol if you think the US MIC is decaying, watching the PLA/N going to war would be funny with forces that haven’t seen combat in a generation. When was the last time the US fought a professional army with roughly the same capabilities?
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Mar 13, 2021 04:20
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sleep with the vicious posted:It is pretty wild how Iran's only response was accidentally blowing up a passenger airline full of Canadians and then getting one of their premier nuclear scientists assassinated I mean there was that US base that got blasted...
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Mar 13, 2021 04:32
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shrike82 posted:lol if you think the US MIC is decaying, watching the PLA/N going to war would be funny with forces that haven’t seen combat in a generation. sry im having a tough time imagining how 30 or so years of nothing but launching bombing missions against hapless brown people on land translates to superior experience and skill in naval combat against an equal rival?? if the usn can’t dodge cargo ships exactly how is it going to dodge a swarm of anti-ship missiles?
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Mar 13, 2021 04:34
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lol, comparing militaries with a list of paper capabilities is the same dumb poo poo that the MIC does so lefties should be critiqued for it. when was the last time the PLA/N engaged in any conflict?
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Mar 13, 2021 04:37
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no one has any experience fighting the kind of conflict that would occur in China vs US and satraps
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Mar 13, 2021 04:38
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shrike82 posted:lol, comparing militaries with a list of paper capabilities is the same dumb poo poo that the MIC does so lefties should be critiqued for it. when was the last time the usn engaged in any conflict against naval forces of equal capability? WWII? Exactly what conflict are you referring to that demonstrates the usn’s fighting capacity?
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Mar 13, 2021 04:39
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ok, so people itt are arguing that china has a navy "of equal capability" to the us?
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Mar 13, 2021 04:41
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shrike82 posted:ok, so people itt are arguing that china has a navy "of equal capability" to the us? dont dodge the question, swine
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Mar 13, 2021 04:42
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it doesn't have an equal navy in terms of its ability to project power or on a ship by ship basis but any plausible scenario of conflict its fighting in its home waters
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Mar 13, 2021 04:43
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shrike82 posted:I’m reminded of teary eyed leftist podcasters talking about Soleimani and how Iran would have some cunning revenge attack of the perfect proportionality don't be vague, I want some podcast recs
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Mar 13, 2021 04:45
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the chapo episodes right after solemani got blown up were hilarious - will menaker was weeping about how this was going to presage a wider conflict in the ME, and the interview with the war nerd had him talk ominously about the iranians were well-trained and would have a decisive and exquistely proportioned counterstrike that would make the US pay and then whoops, they shoot up a passenger plane
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Mar 13, 2021 04:47
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shrike82 posted:the chapo episodes right after solemani got blown up were hilarious - will menaker was weeping about how this was going to presage a wider conflict in the ME, and the interview with the war nerd had him talk ominously about the iranians were well-trained and would have a decisive and exquistely proportioned counterstrike that would make the US pay putting your enemy's military on high alert and then them proceeding to accidently shoot something down seems like a pro tactic
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Mar 13, 2021 04:49
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shrike82 posted:the chapo episodes right after solemani got blown up were hilarious - will menaker was weeping about how this was going to presage a wider conflict in the ME, and the interview with the war nerd had him talk ominously about the iranians were well-trained and would have a decisive and exquistely proportioned counterstrike that would make the US pay Dolan was last on chapo in 2019? the US letting a base get blown up with no response seems pretty extraordinary. I don't know the last time that happened.
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Mar 13, 2021 04:55
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I looked it up and it was Felix doing a special pod with Derek Davison, not Dolan
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Mar 13, 2021 05:11
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shrike82 posted:lol if you think the US MIC is decaying, watching the PLA/N going to war would be funny with forces that haven’t seen combat in a generation. Tell me what's the solution to declining enlistment among the young?
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Mar 13, 2021 05:15
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Type of guy who hate listens to chapo and then comes to eurasia megathread to "troll" the lefties
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Mar 13, 2021 05:19
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it literally doesn't matter how combat ready the troops are because you have nukes, that's the secret sauce. China and the US are invincible because of this. China could have a single hot dog floating in the ocean and would be able to fend off any US attack because of the 400+ ICBMs they have
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Mar 13, 2021 05:21
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We need someone to report back on a NATO commander giving us his Tom Clancy scenario. https://twitter.com/mathitak/status/1367843315098341386?s=20
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Mar 13, 2021 05:29
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Grapplejack posted:it literally doesn't matter how combat ready the troops are because you have nukes, that's the secret sauce. China and the US are invincible because of this. China could have a single hot dog floating in the ocean and would be able to fend off any US attack because of the 400+ ICBMs they have i think if the USA sends over an invasion force it wold be better to use a nuclear torpedo? i assume china has those, they are easier to make than ICBMs. goodbye carrier group  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7kgExpYzkE&t=51s
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Mar 13, 2021 05:42
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China should put ships full of straw off coastal waters and collect US bombs dropped off them to be reused - call this the zhuge liang stratagem and get some Chinese academics to write books about it I’m sick of westerners using Greco-Roman parallels (e.g Thucydides trap or the declining Roman core versus periphery), let’s get a bunch of Chinese historical allusions in the mix
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Mar 13, 2021 06:02
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anyone talking about ship vs ship or w/e is braindead. if conflict broke out between china and amerikkka, all life on earth would end. there's no such thing as a limited war between two nuclear powers.
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Mar 13, 2021 07:45
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