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Once I finally found some swamps and got some iron and a longboat and iron armor I'm enjoying the game a hell of a lot more than I was around the part where you have to explore on the super slow karve/raft while dodging death from mosquitos and serpents. Longboat feels a lot faster than Karve so it's a lot less frustrating when you have to go against the wind.
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I was sailing out of a swamp and a skeleton archer ran out, stood completely submerged in the water, and was able to plink away at my boat with its arrow while I sat there in dead/against the wind trying to get out of its range, until somehow a bunch of wood arrows exploded my boat in the middle of the ocean and I died. That one felt pretty video-gamey and frustrating, but wasn't too bad because I had friend in the server. But single player or on a casual friends server... use the console commands before quitting. it's an EA game. Lakitu7 posted:Once I finally found some swamps and got some iron and a longboat and iron armor I'm enjoying the game a hell of a lot more than I was around the part where you have to explore on the super slow karve/raft while dodging death from mosquitos and serpents. Longboat feels a lot faster. fair and based on the roadmap this part of the game will be more like 1/2 or 3/5 of the game rather than creeping up on endgame.
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Mar 13, 2021 15:45
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bus hustler posted:based on the roadmap this part of the game will be more like 1/2 or 3/5 of the game rather than creeping up on endgame. I'm close to done with Iron, but don't I still have mountains and plains so a heck of a lot of game still before the end of EA content?
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Mar 13, 2021 15:51
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Lakitu7 posted:I'm close to done with Iron, but don't I still have mountains and plains so a heck of a lot of game still before the end of EA content? Fair but by the time you get there you've usually found the mountain & plains biomes, so it makes sailing easier but you don't necessarily need it to complete the game. We got into iron pretty "late" (finally found bonemass/crypts/iron).
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Mar 13, 2021 15:53
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My mistake was definitely using the raft. gently caress the raft, I can't ever see a reason to use it unless you spawned in on a meadow-only island. Also if their roadmap is accurate I'm sure they'll address it in their sea update.
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Mar 13, 2021 15:53
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Yeah, fair enough. I definitely found plenty of plains while looking for swamp, and mountains seem to be in the middle of every big land mass including my start one. My big mistake was sailing east/west looking for swamps. At least on my map they're all a short distance north/south. Is that a common feature of the mapgen and thus generic good advice or just how my map happens to be?
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Mar 13, 2021 15:59
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Mine are mostly east/west so far.
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Mar 13, 2021 16:02
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Ravenfood posted:Mine are mostly east/west so far. Oh well. It seemed plausible. Thanks!
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Mar 13, 2021 16:53
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Is there any way to build a big stone bridge connected to the big pillars in the plains? On a first try wood seems to not support the stone structures.
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Mar 13, 2021 17:17
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Wood can’t handle more than the slightest bit of tensile load so a free hanging stone bridge (or stone bridge with wooden supports) isn’t going to work. You could build a ton of stone pillars in the style of an aqueduct though! Alternatively it’s apparently possible to reinforce lengths of stone by running LOTS of core wood beams through it, so you could experiment with that technique.
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Mar 13, 2021 17:24
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One crafty viking discovers the secret of rebar.
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Mar 13, 2021 17:25
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am i the only one who prefers sailing around in a karve to a longship? i'm doing raids against fuling villages for fun with the karve from various portals i have around the map, then bring flax/barley home and worry about the scrap later (plus i can just get it by being loud at night at my castle and the materials come to me!) if you didnt know, parry + special attack with maxed frostnir one shots all the base fulings. trying to combo them knocks them out of reach so this is a way better way to fight them
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Mar 13, 2021 17:26
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mastershakeman posted:am i the only one who prefers sailing around in a karve to a longship? i'm doing raids against fuling villages for fun with the karve from various portals i have around the map, then bring flax/barley home and worry about the scrap later (plus i can just get it by being loud at night at my castle and the materials come to me!) I prefer it too solo. Longships handle awkwardly primarily due to having their pivot point for turning be the very front of the boat. It's very easy to get a little distance from the shore only to have your turn jam the back end right back onto the ground. That in conjunction with having way more momentum that makes it incredibly difficult to shift from reverse rowing to forward rowing and just overall increased size makes them sometimes crazy hard to un-beach in moments where being snappy about it is important. In my mind longships are for the 2+ big supply runs where you need to hold size, and karves are perfect for solo goofin.
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Mar 13, 2021 17:33
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Is there an accepted build order for bronze age stuff? I was going to do an axe first, but it takes forever and a day to mine with the bone pick, so I'm wondering if I should upgrade the pickaxe first.
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Mar 13, 2021 18:07
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Pickaxe is always first for me, as it's the chokepoint for getting more upgrades. Then it's just kind of whatever seems good in the moment, usually something is bugging me that needs solved (getting hit too hard, not doing enough damage, need to clear a forest, whatever).
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Mar 13, 2021 18:10
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Fruits of the sea posted:
That seems to work up to a point. Specifically two full core wood beams. Not quite enough for what I wanted to do, but I can make do.
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Mar 13, 2021 18:11
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Bioshuffle posted:Is there an accepted build order for bronze age stuff? I was going to do an axe first, but it takes forever and a day to mine with the bone pick, so I'm wondering if I should upgrade the pickaxe first. I'd still say axe, getting to chop down birch trees for fine wood unlocks a whole bunch of things, most importantly portals, but also functional boats, good comfort furniture, fermenters, and more. The bone pick sucks somewhat, but you also just need a workshop to repair rather than a forge.
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Mar 13, 2021 18:20
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Definitely the axe for finewood. I got by mining copper with the bone pick and a repair workbench and held out for an iron pick, which (similar to the bronze axe) acts as an explicit material-gathering gate.
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Mar 13, 2021 18:31
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mastershakeman posted:if you didnt know, parry + special attack with maxed frostnir one shots all the base fulings. trying to combo them knocks them out of reach so this is a way better way to fight them genericnick posted:Is there any way to build a big stone bridge connected to the big pillars in the plains? On a first try wood seems to not support the stone structures. Yes, there is. Use wood iron beams as support. You can do it to a certain extent. Build your bridge out from one pillar to achieve half of the actual length then build the other half from the other pillar. But if the pillars are too far apart then you're out of luck. 
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Mar 13, 2021 18:36
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Bioshuffle posted:Is there an accepted build order for bronze age stuff? I was going to do an axe first, but it takes forever and a day to mine with the bone pick, so I'm wondering if I should upgrade the pickaxe first. Axe first. The antler pickaxe will last long enough for you to get as much ore as you can carry (which isn't much) before it breaks. The axe gets you access to fine wood which gets you the finewood bow (assuming you didn't get enough wood from chopping other trees into birch trees), which is both a significant upgrade over the crude bow and really important for killing trolls. It also gets you the karve boat (which is way better than the raft), a ton of decoration for comfort, and portals. I haven't upgraded to a bronze pickaxe yet because I'm finding it easier to build a workshop and shed near a copper deposit and repair the antler pickaxe on-site, then haul the ore out either on foot or by cart depending on terrain, and having to drop a forge as well as a workshop would be annoying.
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Bioshuffle posted:Is there an accepted build order for bronze age stuff? I was going to do an axe first, but it takes forever and a day to mine with the bone pick, so I'm wondering if I should upgrade the pickaxe first. My order was: bronze axe to get fine wood, cultivator. Straight to swamp , use 3x bone antlers to go after iron piles since I read that bone pick works just as good for them as bronze or iron. Then make iron mace level 3 and banded shield, iron pickaxe upgrade a few times, and straight to silver. Finally there go for cloak right away then just go insane on silver. Obviously needed copper/tin/iron for various forge upgrades and ships but basically just skipped ahead multiple tiers with troll armor and good food and got lucky it worked out for me. Now I need a bunch of iron again but I'm glad I never made any bronze/iron weapons or armor outside the mace/shield I actually did make a bronze atgier which was dumb
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Mar 13, 2021 18:51
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The other night we went crypt seeking. We were denied. 
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Mar 13, 2021 19:22
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SKULL.GIF posted:The other night we went crypt seeking. Mine below the entrance and you can enter
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https://i.imgur.com/xHEekj4.mp4 goddamn i love this game; the soundtrack just lined up from spotify while i was recording too
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Is there any decent way to do a lighthouse pre-stoneworking? I can't do one out of wood because I can't drop a fire on wood so now I think I'm down to just placing a bunch of sconces on a tower or something.
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Ravenfood posted:Is there any decent way to do a lighthouse pre-stoneworking? I can't do one out of wood because I can't drop a fire on wood so now I think I'm down to just placing a bunch of sconces on a tower or something. Might wanna wait until you get a little further in. There is a proper bonfire that you should build around.
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The nice thing about the antler pickaxe is that you can use a workbench to repair it. You can get pretty big hauls by repairing in the black forests and using a cart.
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Molybdenum posted:The nice thing about the antler pickaxe is that you can use a workbench to repair it. You can get pretty big hauls by repairing in the black forests and using a cart. Ravenfood posted:I haven't upgraded to a bronze pickaxe yet because I'm finding it easier to build a workshop and shed near a copper deposit and repair the antler pickaxe on-site, then haul the ore out either on foot or by cart depending on terrain, and having to drop a forge as well as a workshop would be annoying. Just build a portal, drop your ore in a chest next to it, and pop back to base to repair.
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Thanks for the tips! Made myself a bronze axe and crafted myself a cart. Any tips for making a cart highway through hilly terrain? I'm having a hell of a time trying to make a smooth path that can navigate those hills. I spent all day yesterday making a fence perimeter around my harbor base, but I didn't realize they can simply go around the damned thing by getting into the water. Maybe I can just make an artificial hill to keep them out? This is a good game.
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Bioshuffle posted:Thanks for the tips! Made myself a bronze axe and crafted myself a cart. Any tips for making a cart highway through hilly terrain? I'm having a hell of a time trying to make a smooth path that can navigate those hills. Flatten ground in the uphill direction when you use the hoe
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Just build a portal, drop your ore in a chest next to it, and pop back to base to repair.  well, I'll be doing that from now on. I've got a decent supply of fine wood and Surtling cores now, but early on I was struggling to get either in decent quantities. Either way, you should still get a bronze axe before a bronze pickaxe, which was the original question.E: and thanks for the tip on waiting for a bonfire.
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Mar 13, 2021 20:58
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Building a moat-accessible cellar for an existing structure took some doing but drat if it wasn't worth it 
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i had to haul this thing starting from the beach  my first mistake was misreading the karve needing 80 bronze bolts as the karve needing 80 bronze at least i got to kill lots of trolls
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Mar 13, 2021 21:29
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The Colonel posted:i had to haul this thing starting from the beach Well if it makes you feel any better your main base will probably never need any additional bronze, ever. 
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Can be handy to make a temporary portal to send non-ores through the portal first to lighten the load and make the cart easier to handle.
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Anyone got farming tips? Keeping the seeds far enough apart they all have room to grow and none are wasted is tricky. The game isn't great at this sort of precision placement. I wish it just didn't allow you to plant too close together. The best I've come up with is alternating columns by half a row. That is, I place the plants in the second row are about a viking shoulder's width to the side and then placed midway between the rows to their right and left. Then the plants in the third column are placed half a row off-again, which is the same as being in the same rows as the first column. Having an extra set of seedlings to judge placement with helps me avoid drifting too far off from a straight line.  The torches help with night-time farming. Multiplayer server so I can't always just go to bed and wait for daylight.
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Make the farm bigger Also raid fulings because barley and flax are way better to manage
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Where do I get honey?
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