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swimsuit posted:what is the something awful forums moderator stance on china's one child policy being genocide?? snypa
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Mar 14, 2021 21:50
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iirc you actually do get factions in or outside the party who are mad that han chinese are restricted as they are and want more pro natalist policies/fewer restrictions on the han population. they probably don't go so far as like, FDR grousing about racial suicide though
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Mar 14, 2021 21:50
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:weird how a well-known policy from 1978 is just being called genocide now to be fair to relevant tangent deranged morons have called the 1 child policy genocide for decades
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Mar 14, 2021 21:53
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:it's not is reverse genocide denialism a probatable offense i dunno what to call it genocide-gaslighting
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Mar 14, 2021 21:54
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Dreddout posted:Compare China to India's population planning wherein the state merely offers incentives for sterilization and they're still struggling to lower the rate today. To be fair, All states outside of the BIMARU states have reasonably controlled birth rates. Bangladesh has done a good job as well.
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Mar 14, 2021 21:55
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hahahahahahaha jesus christ
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Mar 14, 2021 22:00
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欢呼撒但
Cao Ni Ma has issued a correction as of 22:08 on Mar 14, 2021 |
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Mar 14, 2021 22:03
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:l bro come on
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Mar 14, 2021 22:14
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Cao Ni Ma posted:欢呼撒但  
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Mar 14, 2021 22:14
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Antonymous posted:bro come on
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Mar 14, 2021 22:25
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hail satan
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Mar 14, 2021 22:26
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“iud placements were substituted for fines” isn’t genocide, but it is.....very bad stephenthinkpad posted:The main reason I stop reading the GBS thread and unsubscriped. There are lot of other casual nearly as dumb generalizations like "XX area of China have terrible taste in beer" etc. the Han Chinese hate IPAs!!!!! 
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Mar 14, 2021 22:44
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indigi posted:“iud placements were substituted for fines” isn’t genocide, but it is.....very bad Yeah this seems to be the main point of contention - when does what the CPC is doing cross the line from "very bad" to "Genocide bad"?
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Mar 14, 2021 22:56
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Not So Fast posted:Yeah this seems to be the main point of contention - when does what the CPC is doing cross the line from "very bad" to "Genocide bad"? when it's genocide, at least imo that would be where I would draw the line.
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Mar 14, 2021 23:06
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are hongkongers learning mandarin in school suffering a genocide too? we've run out of political vocabulary, or maybe nothing is 'really bad' until it's 'genocide bad' and only rivals to the USA can do the genocide bad things
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Mar 14, 2021 23:07
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Not So Fast posted:Yeah this seems to be the main point of contention - when does what the CPC is doing cross the line from "very bad" to "Genocide bad"? Antonymous posted:when it's genocide, at least imo that would be where I would draw the line.  mandated family planning isn’t genocide, encouraging children to learn Mandarin in school isn’t genocide, even doing reeducation on (a militant subset of) an ethnic and religious minority isn’t genocide. certain policies or their implementation can be bad and worthy of criticism without being genocide
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Mar 14, 2021 23:11
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The USA is also sterilizing people without their consent fwiw. I'm a simple shitposter but I think it's low to deny that people are being abused is all.
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Mar 14, 2021 23:12
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Varinn posted:the american media simply does not have a poster as strong as chen weihua, and its sad getting rid of the natural-born citizen clause for President Chen Weihua
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Mar 14, 2021 23:27
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Relevant Tangent posted:The USA is also sterilizing people without their consent fwiw. I'm a simple shitposter but I think it's low to deny that people are being abused is all. I don’t think anyone is doing this
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Mar 14, 2021 23:31
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TeenageArchipelago posted:I really don't even get actively hating china in that way. Lets assume that everything Adrian Zenz says is true, even in that case what value is there in hyper-focusing on China, which we as citizens in the west have no ability to control, vs something like Israel, Saudi Arabia, or some other country committing serious human rights abuses while receiving unholy amounts of US aid. It's like the next level of "making up a guy to be mad at," but it's even better because this "My own concern is primarily the terror and violence carried out by my own state, for two reasons. For one thing, because it happens to be the larger component of international violence. But also for a much more important reason than that; namely, I can do something about it. So even if the U.S. was responsible for 2 percent of the violence in the world instead of the majority of it, it would be that 2 percent I would be primarily responsible for. And that is a simple ethical judgment. That is, the ethical value of one’s actions depends on their anticipated and predictable consequences. It is very easy to denounce the atrocities of someone else. That has about as much ethical value as denouncing atrocities that took place in the 18th century." -Chomsky
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Mar 14, 2021 23:34
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Maximo Roboto posted:getting rid of the natural-born citizen clause for President Chen Weihua Cao Ni Ma posted:欢呼撒但 Cerebral Bore posted:hail satan
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Mar 14, 2021 23:37
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indigi posted:certain policies or their implementation can be bad and worthy of criticism without being genocide to be clear, if someone comes in here saying that the PRC is doing mass sterilization of Uyghur women, and that that constitutes a genocidal act, that's not the same as a policy of people, in general and regardless of their ethnicity, getting IUDs either as a voluntary measure, or as a penalty for having violated the two-child policy I'm not even going to argue that the latter isn't objectionable, but it's far-and-away different from the original claim, and people should recognize when the goalposts are getting moved
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Mar 15, 2021 00:20
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Relevant Tangent posted:The USA is also sterilizing people without their consent fwiw. I'm a simple shitposter but I think it's low to deny that people are being abused is all. you're a loving weasel
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Mar 15, 2021 00:23
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Dreddout posted:Compare China to India's population planning wherein the state merely offers incentives for sterilization and they're still struggling to lower the rate today. Google "Rajiv Gandhi population control" if you want to know how Indira Gandhi's government actually ran into villages and grab men to do forced sterilization. It's actually way more unpopular in India because any government intervention of birth rate change Hindu/Muslim population ratio, thus election representation in regional level. The Indians are still very touchy about subjects in this area, look up the whole "love jihad" controversy last year, which is basically the Hindu nationalists dog whispering to their voters the fear of Muslim "secretly converting our women!" edit: also HAIL SATAN SMOOOOTHY stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 00:46 on Mar 15, 2021 |
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Mar 15, 2021 00:40
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Speaking of birth rates, this map has a lot of data (I don't know where they got the NK numbers but these numbers look correct.) Fertility Rate in SubDivisions In South, Southeast, and East Asia  I simply think all east asian countries have the same industrialized > GDP growth > low birth rate trajectory, with only exception being Vietnam, they still need to prove they can industrialize first. Regarding the greater Asia area, the most relevant factor to the birth rate is probably GDP per capita but I haven't found a map that shows the GDP in provincial and city level.  mapporn stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 01:06 on Mar 15, 2021 |
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Mar 15, 2021 01:03
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indigi posted:the Han Chinese hate IPAs!!!!! they actually dont. craft beer is growing hugely in china as we speak and just like everywhere else this has happened, ipas are taking off. tsingtao even makes an ipa these days
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Mar 15, 2021 01:12
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What's going on in Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands? Also LOL Anhui.
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Mar 15, 2021 01:19
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I wonder if Hainan had been retained by the KMT/ROC, or if they had somehow gotten Hong Kong'd, if it could've become hyper-developed like the others did Though by present day Shenzhen would be eating its lunch like it eats the others'
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Mar 15, 2021 01:25
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fart simpson posted:they actually dont. craft beer is growing hugely in china as we speak and just like everywhere else this has happened, ipas are taking off. tsingtao even makes an ipa these days I didn’t really think they hated IPAs. I hope we start getting good Chinese imports soon, I’d love to see their takes on things
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Mar 15, 2021 01:43
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tsingtao actually makes a decent stout and wheat beer if you can find them then there's SNOW, the worst beer on earth
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Mar 15, 2021 01:48
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stephenthinkpad posted:Speaking of birth rates, this map has a lot of data (I don't know where they got the NK numbers but these numbers look correct.) people tend to forget that the US still has one of the highest TFRs in the developed world when they try to make arguments about China's rise - if you think the US military is struggling with enlistment numbers, lol at the PLA/N being an attractive place to work given the PRC's demographic crunch the US has an abhorrent immigration policy but compared to the rest of the world has the ability to integrate foreigners and people of other ethnicities as "Americans" regardless whatever the rightwing says. East Asian countries including China has no cultural norms around that - lol, if you think there's any real movement in recognizing foreign immigrants as "Chinese"
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Mar 15, 2021 02:03
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The various misspelled 1 kuai beers below Snow on the supermarket shelf are worse.
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Mar 15, 2021 02:17
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VideoTapir posted:The various misspelled 1 kuai beers below Snow on the supermarket shelf are worse. also worse is pizza beer. the actual worst beer in the world
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Mar 15, 2021 02:29
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fart simpson posted:pizza beer what in the world
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Mar 15, 2021 03:07
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Mar 15, 2021 03:14
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Ferrinus posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcfvCEaZoa0 l m a o
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Mar 15, 2021 03:14
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shrike82 posted:people tend to forget that the US still has one of the highest TFRs in the developed world when they try to make arguments about China's rise - if you think the US military is struggling with enlistment numbers, lol at the PLA/N being an attractive place to work given the PRC's demographic crunch Don't really want to comment on the China situation but I want to point out how a lot of Radicals underestimate how much Minorities in the US and Canada identify as Canadians and Americans. You'd be surprised how patriotic many Black and Brown Americans get when they interact with foreigners.
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Mar 15, 2021 03:14
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what the gently caress
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Mar 15, 2021 03:18
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lol at talking about chinese beer, drink some maotai
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Mar 15, 2021 03:23
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Time for a Tiger
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