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lol goddamn, can't wait for the huac reboot
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Mar 16, 2021 02:33
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Doctor Jeep posted:this is a great line https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHhZF66C1Dc
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Mar 16, 2021 03:02
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marine commercial: you live in a hyperatomized cyberpunk shithole, discover who you really are by joining an organization fighting to defend it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCjEV75F2tM meanwhile in the logan's run universe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtTgsu_JtNU&t=152s
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Mar 16, 2021 05:09
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indigi posted:bottle looks like it contains mouthwash. no thankyou It's almost as if the so called genocide which quickly becomes downgraded to "abuse" when confronted is merely western imperialists misrepresenting a prison system of a part of the most populated country in the world.
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Mar 16, 2021 05:53
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fart simpson posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3912640&perpage=40&noseen=1&pagenumber=270#post512365517 Yeah, that was what made me stop giving the thread any benefit of the doubt I might have before. I didn't report him, because I was arguing with him and it didn't seem ok to report someone I was arguing with, but I was still sitting there thinking, dudes wished violent death on people for being mainland han Chinese like 3 times already and no one really gives a poo poo? And it's not like that was his first time. And it's always 'guy might be arguing that every han person is a subhuman animal, but he dislikes the party and I dislike the party so it's ok' from everyone else.
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Mar 16, 2021 06:24
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Are they only saying this because it's St. Patrick's this week lmao
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Mar 16, 2021 06:30
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there’s a part of me that thinks that to get through to those people you need to find some common ground. like, imagine you believed literal Hitler 2.0 was happening, you’d feel pretty scared and helpless and angry. seems like an understandable reaction if you actually believe they’re doing a genocide in Xinjiang (to be clear, calling for the extermination of all Han Chinese isn’t excusable, but you can understand the brain state of what gets someone to go there). I think it’s worth taking extra care to point out that you’re not disagreeing with their reaction to a possible genocide, rather that there’s reason to distrust the information fed to us by the US State Department
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Mar 16, 2021 06:35
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BrainDance posted:Yeah, that was what made me stop giving the thread any benefit of the doubt I might have before. I didn't report him, because I was arguing with him and it didn't seem ok to report someone I was arguing with, but I was still sitting there thinking, dudes wished violent death on people for being mainland han Chinese like 3 times already and no one really gives a poo poo? And it's not like that was his first time. Turning subtext into text. User loses posting privileges for 6 hours.
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Mar 16, 2021 06:41
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indigi posted:there’s a part of me that thinks that to get through to those people you need to find some common ground. like, imagine you believed literal Hitler 2.0 was happening, you’d feel pretty scared and helpless and angry. seems like an understandable reaction if you actually believe they’re doing a genocide in Xinjiang (to be clear, calling for the extermination of all Han Chinese isn’t excusable, but you can understand the brain state of what gets someone to go there). I think it’s worth taking extra care to point out that you’re not disagreeing with their reaction to a possible genocide, rather that there’s reason to distrust the information fed to us by the US State Department That's the thing though, I don't think that a person that genuinely cares about genocide would ever react in that way to begin with. I really don't think it's an understandable reaction. Caring about genocide for one people, and wishing arbitrary and unwarranted death on another are incompatible positions to have. The dude who got banned, I dont think he really gives two shits about Uighurs. It's a performance.
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Mar 16, 2021 06:45
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yeah im getting pretty worried about it really. with framing like this: https://www.newsweek.com/china-xinjiang-auchwitz-holocaust-genocide-world-silent-1520032 how do they want people to react? they’re like 2 millimeters away from calling for a full on invasion and war
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Mar 16, 2021 06:47
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BrainDance posted:Caring about genocide for one people, and wishing arbitrary and unwarranted death on another are incompatible positions to have. I agree in principle but when I read about WWII I will admit that sometimes I think they should have razed Germany and salted the earth. though I don’t have the same feelings about Japan
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Mar 16, 2021 06:49
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indigi posted:though I don’t have the same feelings about Japan why not?
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Mar 16, 2021 06:51
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fart simpson posted:yeah im getting pretty worried about it really. with framing like this: Honestly it seems like fuel for the fire upon Joe Biden and Democrats. Fish out of barrel 'We're not doing military action and people are suffering so the President is at fault.'. Pundits did this poo poo with blaming Obama not doing military action to Iran regarding the 2009 Iranian presidential election and the claims of fraud. Going to war would be extremely stupid but it's easy to say 'Well the opposing party in power COULD have done something!"
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Mar 16, 2021 06:52
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indigi posted:I agree in principle but when I read about WWII I will admit that sometimes I think they should have razed Germany and salted the earth. though I don’t have the same feelings about Japan wtf?
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Mar 16, 2021 06:53
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BrainDance posted:Yeah, that was what made me stop giving the thread any benefit of the doubt I might have before. I didn't report him, because I was arguing with him and it didn't seem ok to report someone I was arguing with, but I was still sitting there thinking, dudes wished violent death on people for being mainland han Chinese like 3 times already and no one really gives a poo poo? And it's not like that was his first time. getting someone to say something that gets them banned is The reason for arguing on the internet indigi posted:there’s a part of me that thinks that to get through to those people you need to find some common ground. like, imagine you believed literal Hitler 2.0 was happening, you’d feel pretty scared and helpless and angry. seems like an understandable reaction if you actually believe they’re doing a genocide in Xinjiang (to be clear, calling for the extermination of all Han Chinese isn’t excusable, but you can understand the brain state of what gets someone to go there). I think it’s worth taking extra care to point out that you’re not disagreeing with their reaction to a possible genocide, rather that there’s reason to distrust the information fed to us by the US State Department other way around. people who think interventionism is acceptable in some cases should be asked if they think it would be okay even if it was Hitler 2.0 that was doing the intervention
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Mar 16, 2021 06:54
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fart simpson posted:why not? part of it is probably just white liberal guilt. not like the Japanese military wasn’t committing atrocities on pretty much the same level. but seeing the two Japanese cities we did actually raze to the ground really saps the wind out of my hatred sails
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Mar 16, 2021 06:57
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indigi posted:there’s a part of me that thinks that to get through to those people you need to find some common ground. like, imagine you believed literal Hitler 2.0 was happening, you’d feel pretty scared and helpless and angry. seems like an understandable reaction if you actually believe they’re doing a genocide in Xinjiang (to be clear, calling for the extermination of all Han Chinese isn’t excusable, but you can understand the brain state of what gets someone to go there). I think it’s worth taking extra care to point out that you’re not disagreeing with their reaction to a possible genocide, rather that there’s reason to distrust the information fed to us by the US State Department these dipshits don't actually care because even if you believe the worst allegations of what's going on in xinjiang the us is doing the exact same things, and i don't see them lifting even one finger to stop this but rather, for some strange reason, they instead spend all their time concocting racist fantasies beneath a woke smokescreen
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Mar 16, 2021 06:57
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indigi posted:part of it is probably just white liberal guilt. not like the Japanese military wasn’t committing atrocities on pretty much the same level. but seeing the two Japanese cities we did actually raze to the ground really saps the wind out of my hatred sails well, wait until you find out about the other 70 cities we razed to the ground
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Mar 16, 2021 06:59
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Cerebral Bore posted:these dipshits don't actually care because even if you believe the worst allegations of what's going on in xinjiang the us is doing the exact same things, and i don't see them lifting even one finger to stop this but rather, for some strange reason, they instead spend all their time concocting racist fantasies beneath a woke smokescreen I mean if they believe America’s propaganda about Xinjiang they probably also believe America’s propaganda about America. there’s a lot of ignorance that needs to be chipped away and you have to pick your battles at first fart simpson posted:well, wait until you find out about the other 70 cities we razed to the ground I know 
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Mar 16, 2021 07:00
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Glad you at least get a ban for advocating indiscriminate murder of Chinese people.
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Mar 16, 2021 07:01
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indigi posted:I agree in principle but when I read about WWII I will admit that sometimes I think they should have razed Germany and salted the earth. though I don’t have the same feelings about Japan OTOH, Japan has done plenty of devil poo poo to allied prisoners in WW2; OTOH, the 3 Abrahamic religions exhibited some incestous hatred against each other in history.
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Mar 16, 2021 07:02
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indigi posted:I mean if they believe America’s propaganda about Xinjiang they probably also believe America’s propaganda about America. there’s a lot of ignorance that needs to be chipped away and you have to pick your battles at first these are the same people who spent four years screaming about trump's concentration camps only to do a complete 180 once their guy was in office. they literally don't give a gently caress beyond this poo poo providing them with an outlet to be as racist as they like against an acceptable target e: the russia poo poo was the same thing, but now that that narrative's lost its utility they're pivoting to the next acceptable target
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Mar 16, 2021 07:04
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indigi posted:part of it is probably just white liberal guilt. not like the Japanese military wasn’t committing atrocities on pretty much the same level. but seeing the two Japanese cities we did actually raze to the ground really saps the wind out of my hatred sails Would you feel the same way if you swapped Nazi Germany with modern Germany? I wonder if it has something to do with it being far enough in history, and seeing 'Nazi Germany' as something separate from modern Germany that makes it feel different. Like how reading The Conquest of Gaul doesn't feel like reading Mein Kampf even though it probably should.
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Mar 16, 2021 07:04
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^^ definitely wouldn’t feel the same Cerebral Bore posted:these are the same people who spent four years screaming about trump's concentration camps only to do a complete 180 once their guy was in office. they literally don't give a gently caress beyond this poo poo providing them with an outlet to be as racist as they like against an acceptable target so what is the point of ever discussing it at all?
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Mar 16, 2021 07:05
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indigi posted:so what is the point of ever discussing it at all? there certainly is no point discussing this with shitlibs, if that's what you're wondering
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Mar 16, 2021 07:07
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Cerebral Bore posted:these are the same people who spent four years screaming about trump's concentration camps only to do a complete 180 once their guy was in office. they literally don't give a gently caress beyond this poo poo providing them with an outlet to be as racist as they like against an acceptable target This. Western medias coverage of Xinjiang is a liberal warmongers wetdream come true, it provides a story that fits their worldview perfectly. It's the same reason they refuse to engage the source material critically and dismiss any critiques of said western media coverage as "tankies handwaving genocide".
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Mar 16, 2021 07:07
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Tehran intends to make its presence in EAEU permanent – Rouhani Ex-Kyrgyz PM hopes Iran will join the EAEU soon Iran has had a provisional free trade agreement with the Eurasian Economic Union these last three years with a full free trade agreement expected this year. What was not expected was Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, the speaker of the Iranian parliament, saying there’s preliminary work for Iran's full membership in the Eurasian Economic Union. Maybe he’s grandstanding, since the EAEU has received no formal request. Then again it would be a good move for the Iranian economy, a way to mitigate US sanctions, and a big boon for the EAEU. Video talks set stage for crucial EAEU FTA meet Cambodia and the EAEU are talking about beginning negotiations for a free trade deal. Additionally a Cambodia-China FTA will come into force this year and a Cambodia-Korea FTA will be signed in a few months.
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Mar 16, 2021 07:26
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https://twitter.com/JChengWSJ/status/1371619975358685186
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Mar 16, 2021 07:55
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... good?
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Mar 16, 2021 07:59
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lol China’s only Hong Kong honoree last year for national honors was a property developer so I’m not holding my breath for radical change in the real estate situation
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Mar 16, 2021 08:05
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I had always assumed the CCP will reform the HK housing market one day, but I didn't expect they reform the election seats in the legCo (water down both elected representation and business sector representation at the same time) and take the knife to the real estate families in the same year. You know my joke about changing HK to driving on the right hand side, maybe it will happen sooner.
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Mar 16, 2021 08:13
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https://twitter.com/AngelaHanb/status/1370638876235100161
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Mar 16, 2021 09:26
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thatfatkid posted:It's almost as if the so called genocide which quickly becomes downgraded to "abuse" when confronted is merely western imperialists misrepresenting a prison system of a part of the most populated country in the world. The prison system in China is pretty horrible, but if you condemn that you have to also condemn the US prison system as well, and good luck with that.
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Mar 16, 2021 09:50
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Every country should teach their kids about their atrocities.
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Mar 16, 2021 09:59
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that’s whataboutism
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Mar 16, 2021 10:16
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good news everyone https://mobile.twitter.com/bopinion/status/1371618598188384263 india is committing to socialism
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Mar 16, 2021 10:25
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i guess authoritarian socialism works. come on Xi please invade i yearn for lower rent
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Mar 16, 2021 14:01
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Some Guy TT posted:good news everyone 
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Mar 16, 2021 14:07
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OhFunny posted:Tehran intends to make its presence in EAEU permanent – Rouhani Here's hoping this relieves the effect of sanctions a bit. My SO has family in Tabriz and things have been pretty horrible the past year or so. More so than usual for someone in their position.
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Mar 16, 2021 15:30
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indigi posted:there’s a part of me that thinks that to get through to those people you need to find some common ground. like, imagine you believed literal Hitler 2.0 was happening, you’d feel pretty scared and helpless and angry. seems like an understandable reaction if you actually believe they’re doing a genocide in Xinjiang (to be clear, calling for the extermination of all Han Chinese isn’t excusable, but you can understand the brain state of what gets someone to go there). I think it’s worth taking extra care to point out that you’re not disagreeing with their reaction to a possible genocide, rather that there’s reason to distrust the information fed to us by the US State Department if someone accepts that the united states is a genocidal war machine and that obama and biden (and trump) genocided the yemen people, then yes it probably comes from a legitimate place of concern
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