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I can understand why the show's running out of steam. They got popular by channeling the justified anger of the 2016 primaries, Clinton getting put on a pedestal and then getting stomped by Trump. Until the 2020 primaries it made sense to skewer Democrats and present alternatives (Bernie) since a takeover of the party seemed like a longshot but possible. Getting crushed as decisively as we did meant there wasn't much reason to keep harping on about Democrats (see: the succ zone threads) because those levers of power are foreclosed. I still really like some of their older episodes, movie reviews, etc. but since the primaries the show has been understandably in the doldrums
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Mar 16, 2021 17:18
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I can understand why the show's running out of steam. They got popular by channeling the justified anger of the 2016 primaries, Clinton getting put on a pedestal and then getting stomped by Trump. Until the 2020 primaries it made sense to skewer Democrats and present alternatives (Bernie) since a takeover of the party seemed like a longshot but possible. Getting crushed as decisively as we did meant there wasn't much reason to keep harping on about Democrats (see: the succ zone threads) because those levers of power are foreclosed. I still really like some of their older episodes, movie reviews, etc. but since the primaries the show has been understandably in the doldrums I think it's also that if you're a power user on these forums and twitter then you're probably already keyed into whatever they're talking about in a given episode, and may have already seen jokes of a similar nature. Any given episode might have a bit more novelty for the non-terminally online. I find it mostly enjoyable as something playing in the background but it's definitely not the same as it used to be. That's kind of the nature of things
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Mar 16, 2021 17:27
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grieving for Gandalf posted:we're gearing up for Chapo West and Chapo East sister pods cumtown is Force Works
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Mar 16, 2021 17:50
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As a bit they should get like five people nobody's ever heard of to do an episode, call it New Chapo.
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Mar 16, 2021 18:25
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Getting crushed as decisively as we did meant there wasn't much reason to keep harping on about Democrats (see: the succ zone threads) because those levers of power are foreclosed. what? they pretty much planned the show around the idea that it’d be a Clinton administration that they’d be skewering also it sounds like you’re saying the show may not as well exist if it can’t facilitate direct change. it’s an entertainment product also the primary episodes with all the earnest bernie boosting albeit well meaning were the worst the show has ever been
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Mar 16, 2021 18:36
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sleeptalker posted:As a bit they should get like five people nobody's ever heard of to do an episode, call it New Chapo. Ptak, T, Stav, Davidson, and ptak doing a lady voice. It would be unlistenable
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Mar 16, 2021 18:58
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:what? Note that I said they became popular by channeling post-2016 election anger, not that they planned the show around it. I know they had to make last-minute changes to their election night show because they assumed a Clinton win. I don't think they had any social responsibility in terms of direct action because as you say, it's entertainment. I'm saying that the anger after 2016 and the desire for an alternative was an animating factor to the show that is now gone, hence why it seems kind of listless and mediocre now.
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Mar 16, 2021 19:00
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Stav is on the newest episode of pod yourself a gun the only sopranos podcast that’s made by the Frotcast guys. I’m pretty sure my tweet made this happen.
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Mar 16, 2021 19:23
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pure speculation, all just gossip but i kinda got the impression virgil was a bit of a punching bag behind the scenes and got fed up with it.
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Mar 16, 2021 19:30
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Mar 16, 2021 19:36
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:what? I can go back and relisten to eps from 2017-2018 real easy, but as soon as Bernie announced his campaign the eps basically aged really poorly up until, really, the white fragility episode
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Mar 16, 2021 21:57
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Shipon posted:I can go back and relisten to eps from 2017-2018 real easy, but as soon as Bernie announced his campaign the eps basically aged really poorly up until, really, the white fragility episode are matt's vlogs still good? im probably about ~2 months behind on them. some of the immediate post-election ones were really fuckin good.
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Mar 16, 2021 23:22
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matt had a few v-logs on books about reconstruction last month but seems to have put a pause on them for the time-being. probably for the best because he is trying to focus on actually writing something coherent and he’s well aware that he uses the v-logs as a crutch to do unfocused wilding out, which is usually entertaining, sometimes enlightening, but not at all productive
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Mar 16, 2021 23:29
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seeing chapo live after Nevada but before SC and Super Tuesday is such a bittersweet memory
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Mar 16, 2021 23:31
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Matts vlogs are good but really unfocused and nobody but obsessive too-online sickos are going to watch them. I hope he really is trying to flesh something out in writing.
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Mar 16, 2021 23:34
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lol at todays chapo being another movie review. yeah they are deffo running out of steam
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Mar 16, 2021 23:34
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So, It's Come To This: A Chapo Hearts of Iron 4 Playthrough and Perspective
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Mar 16, 2021 23:38
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babypolis posted:lol at todays chapo being another movie review. yeah they are deffo running out of steam The movie is at least in the vein of chapo classic. Some bullshit political documentary.
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Mar 16, 2021 23:40
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Zoran posted:seeing chapo live after Nevada but before SC and Super Tuesday is such a bittersweet memory which show did you go to? but yeah. im sad I was out-booked from seeing them at the SF show with Brace belden but sacramento one was still good energy and vibes. met a lotta cool people babypolis posted:lol at todays chapo being another movie review. yeah they are deffo running out of steam matt and felix are at their most energetic and happiest when talking media. Time For My Stories has been great, so that's ok. Will seems a bit de-energized (for obvious reasons with dad dying and everything) and the cumtown bit was def the happiest he's sounded in awhile. Xaris has issued a correction as of 23:47 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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Mar 16, 2021 23:44
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Idk what you people are talking about. Sure the last couple of weeks have been a little weak but the episode a few weeks back with Libby Watson was Chapo running at full power and better than most of their output from last year. Plus they had that interview with the guy getting hosed over by Chevron and another Adam Curtis interview.
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Mar 16, 2021 23:48
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people have been saying chapo is running out of steam or whatever for the last 4 years, every time there are a couple weeks of average episodes, followed by a long discussion of who is now enemies with who, if matt is divorced, whether or not amber will ever come back, how depressed felix is, etc. it is clockwork
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Mar 16, 2021 23:51
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is that guest on trueanon back on heroin since getting out of jail? dude sounded like he was nodding the whole episode.
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Mar 16, 2021 23:57
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i just miss virgil i think. rip my sweet water genius
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Mar 16, 2021 23:57
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:isn't will one of the russian jewish flavors of person he's adopted
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Mar 17, 2021 00:05
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its funny listening to old chapo episodes because they get genuinely mad at random conservative opinion columnists and say poo poo like 'being very normal' and 'hellworld'. but they cant do that anymore because theres millions of people in the world including like half of this forum that made that sort of behaviour their whole personality so its old hat for a comedy podcast. new eps are perfectly on par imo especially the latest. you can tell the mood changed after the election in a good way
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Mar 17, 2021 00:50
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haven't see anyone do the "normal" or "hellworld" stuff lately, that's just a predictably bad and dated (bitch rear end) brandon wardell joke
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Mar 17, 2021 00:54
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do not try to pretend like there arent tons of people who just go around rephrasing tweets on this forum dude cmon
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Mar 17, 2021 00:56
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can someone explain what spiritual socialism is? felix and matt seem pretty big on it. how is it different from class consciousness?
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Mar 17, 2021 00:56
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I didn't listen to the podcast after Bernie's campaign. What's Chapo's general take on why he lost?
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Mar 17, 2021 01:05
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punk rebel ecks posted:I didn't listen to the podcast after Bernie's campaign. What's Chapo's general take on why he lost? Didn't they work on the campaign, so, them?
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Mar 17, 2021 01:07
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err posted:can someone explain what spiritual socialism is? felix and matt seem pretty big on it. how is it different from class consciousness? They found Jesus
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Mar 17, 2021 01:59
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Everybody imaging some behind the scenes drama that led to Virgil leaving, but the actual explanation is probably a lot simper; Virgil isn't hanging out with his friends as much because he met a girl
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Mar 17, 2021 02:04
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if god doesn't exist then how did he send us Karl Marx?
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Mar 17, 2021 02:04
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:what? I remember cringing at them trying to keep morale up post-Super Tuesday. I understand why they did it (and don't think they were wrong to do so, since it was worth some last attempt to keep morale up), but it was pretty obvious at that point that there wasn't going to be any comeback.
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Mar 17, 2021 02:04
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Gripweed posted:Everybody imaging some behind the scenes drama that led to Virgil leaving, but the actual explanation is probably a lot simper; Virgil isn't hanging out with his friends as much because he met a girl by far the most convoluted and improbable explanation
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Mar 17, 2021 02:07
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The Dry Boys, three oafish guys: "Hey Virgil, want to to watch this new Steven Seagal movie? It's really bad, just a complete bummer to watch. Also you have to sit on the floor because Will's cat poo poo on that part of the couch. Felix will move his gym stuff so there's room" Briana, a pretty girl: "Hey Virgil, do you want to hang out and meet Ice T?"
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Mar 17, 2021 02:08
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the brendan impression opening of virgil only wanting to eat at the one chicken strip place in jersey is still good
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Mar 17, 2021 02:13
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Xaris posted:i think it's sort of expected that most bernie-era episodes have aged badly, for very obvious reasons. probably the worst period was post-bernie up to white fragility though. i actually saw them live in Sacramento back in Feb 2020 just before the lockdowns started and before super tuesday. even ran into some goons like Siljimonster. it was a great show but i def wouldn't want to listen to any of them again I went to their San Diego show right after NV and going from that to "yeah this virus is everywhere, bernie's campaign is finished and we all have to stay inside for the next 2 months" in the span of a month was the most crushed I've felt in a long time The past few months I have been enjoying the podcast more though. They've still got it I feel, just that it's different than the Trump era.
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:is that guest on trueanon back on heroin since getting out of jail? dude sounded like he was nodding the whole episode. I listened in the shower and had to adjust the volume to hear, but I thought it was just their tone of voice , FWIW.
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