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Lmao https://twitter.com/HuXijin_GT/status/1371843309644230667?s=20
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Mar 16, 2021 23:04
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:Lmao I feel like that has to be a joke
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Mar 16, 2021 23:07
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the protestors are burning down chinese factories in myanmar so they're viewing the chinese as supporting the junta for some reason
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Mar 17, 2021 01:02
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:Lmao https://twitter.com/shogun45309414/status/1371941597408006148 good lord
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Mar 17, 2021 01:19
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There's definitely a segment of pro-Chinese chuds who are nationalists or outright reactionaries who see China as standing up to western liberal decadence.
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Mar 17, 2021 01:51
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:Lmao Specifically, that's 104 Proof.
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Mar 17, 2021 02:13
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https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/1371821581111078922?s=20 https://twitter.com/NTerryEllis/status/1371974847404912647?s=20
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Mar 17, 2021 02:35
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/1371821581111078922?s=20 Hell yeah bring on world war 3
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Mar 17, 2021 02:39
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https://twitter.com/TheDailyMao/status/1372045444587560963
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Mar 17, 2021 06:49
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why can't one of these loving lunatics get mad at the people who actually allowed 500,000 people to die and minecraft some of them
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Mar 17, 2021 06:54
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Seems like all the victims who died were women. Pick your poison.
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Mar 17, 2021 06:54
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indigi posted:why can't one of these loving lunatics get mad at the people who actually allowed 500,000 people to die and minecraft some of them Because it's always easy to blame foreigners for anything American politicians or corporations do.
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Mar 17, 2021 06:55
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indigi posted:why can't one of these loving lunatics get mad at the people who actually allowed 500,000 people to die and minecraft some of them the two that got shot up in atlanta and not in the suburbs, were in the only spot in atlanta which could be vaguely considered a red light district. whether or not they actually were venues for the sex trade, the fact that the shooter drove to this specific neighborhood indicates to me that his actions were sex motivated
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Mar 17, 2021 07:02
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fart simpson posted:the two that got shot up in atlanta and not in the suburbs, were in the only spot in atlanta which could be vaguely considered a red light district. whether or not they actually were venues for the sex trade, the fact that the shooter drove to this specific neighborhood indicates to me that his actions were sex motivated I figured he just assumed they'd be the easiest targets/guaranteed to have Asian people there, but you're probably right 
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Mar 17, 2021 07:07
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yeah idk i think you were right. im just reposting stuff from d&d
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Mar 17, 2021 07:08
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https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1371964778206269443 https://twitter.com/attackerman/status/1372151712916594689 BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 13:57 on Mar 17, 2021 |
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Mar 17, 2021 13:53
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https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1372189769451638787?s=20
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Mar 17, 2021 15:49
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woah that's cool. I actually don't know the Japanese court system, what's the appeals process and all that this would need to go through to become an actual change?
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Mar 17, 2021 15:51
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we stan progressive activist judges
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Mar 17, 2021 16:01
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In this case the government can't actually appeal because they won, but the plantiffs can still appeal if they think they can get in front of the supreme court It's likely the other similar cases are going to go the same way. There's one for each province iirc
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Mar 17, 2021 16:03
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wait, the government brought cases against itself to change the laws rather than changing the laws?
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Mar 17, 2021 16:09
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indigi posted:wait, the government brought cases against itself to change the laws rather than changing the laws? Oh no the case was brought by the gay plaintiffs; they were suing for damages and lost, but the court rejected the entirety of the government's arguments to the point where they ruled the argument they were using to be unconstitutional
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Mar 17, 2021 16:11
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I've actually started reading up on the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1978 while browsing for Deng Xiaoping's works and my mind is getting blown over the relationships at play.
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Mar 17, 2021 16:15
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gradenko_2000 posted:I've actually started reading up on the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1978 while browsing for Deng Xiaoping's works and my mind is getting blown over the relationships at play. What are you reading?
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Mar 17, 2021 16:43
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gradenko_2000 posted:I've actually started reading up on the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1978 while browsing for Deng Xiaoping's works and my mind is getting blown over the relationships at play. 
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Mar 17, 2021 17:04
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gradenko_2000 posted:I've actually started reading up on the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1978 while browsing for Deng Xiaoping's works and my mind is getting blown over the relationships at play. Go on, don't let me hanging.
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Mar 17, 2021 17:09
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gradenko_2000 posted:I've actually started reading up on the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1978 while browsing for Deng Xiaoping's works and my mind is getting blown over the relationships at play.
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Mar 17, 2021 17:46
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okay sorry folks I was zonked out on painkillers last night so I didn't get to post I'm reading "Deng Xiaoping's Long War" by Xiaoming Zhang. I have no idea if it'a a reliable source so if anyone wants to correct me that this is Western propaganda feel free. anyway, this is just from the introduction, but the thesis laid out in the book is that once the US was defeated in Vietnam, the PRC had come to regard the USSR as the greater threat, and given that the PRC saw the USSR and the SRV (Socialist Republic of Vietnam, otherwise previously known as North Vietnam) as allies, the PRC under Deng Xiaoping decided to attack the SRV partly as a way to secure its land borders*, but also to curry favor with the United States, which the PRC wanted in order to secure favorable trade deals and technology transfer necessary for economic development. Basically, the PRC and the SRV were merely allies of convenience, cooperating with each other so long as their US was still in their backyard, but once that was over and done with, the PRC's perception of the SRV as a Soviet proxy meant that, supposedly, they were fated to want to settle this score sooner or later. other countries in Southeast Asia, which feared the SRV as a potential regional power, and not withstanding their attacks on then Pol Pot's Kampuchea, did not speak up about the PRC's invasion, and the run-on effect was that not only did the conflict allow Pol Pot's regime to persist that much longer, but it also supposedly prevented Western-leaning Thailand from falling into Vietnam's sphere-of-influence. Relations between Vietnam and China remained relatively hostile, with Vietnam not being able to send a diplomatic entourage to China until after the Soviet bloc collapsed in 1990. the ploy did work as far as getting the United States to cooperate with China - the book mentions that the US provided the PRC with weapons and military technology and in return the PRC set-up intelligence listening stations along their northern and western borders to spy on the Soviets. the book also mentions that the conflict was part of Deng's attempts to modernize the PLA and give them a chance to show their prowess, while also centralizing power unto himself and using a foreign adventure to win support for his domestic economic development programs, but I haven't gotten that far into it yet personally, I knew about the Sino-Soviet split in vague terms, but I never realized that the rift ran so deep as for the PRC to think that the USSR was an existential problem for them (again, taking this book at face value). ___ * this was also supposedly why the PRC was involved opposite the USSR in their invasion/occupation of Afghanistan - they wanted the Soviets to fail there, because they saw a Soviet-occupied/controlled Afghanistan as an encroaching threat on their borders.
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Mar 18, 2021 04:39
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I thought half of the stuff you mentioned were thread common knowledge. You have to look into the timeline around 15 year older, basically China's international environment in Mao's last years. China and Soviet's split was getting serious. Mao gave a lot of hints to the US to send an envoy before US actually sent Kissinger. So China's big pivot was planned by Mao but executed by Deng, not Deng's idea. As far as China and US's honeymoon period from 79 to 89. IMO China actually didn't get a lot of military or heavy industry technology from the US. One noted exception was some Black Hawk helicopters. But US got China into the middle of the world trade system. The entire indochina situation was very geopolitical and "Machiavellian". IMO CCP regarded letting North Vietnam united South Vietnam was a mistake. I think most of Beijing's chess moves in the 5 Indochina countries derived from this conclusion.
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Mar 18, 2021 05:08
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Afaik the PLA considered the Soviet Union to be its main adversary until it shifted to Taiwan and the US in the '90s
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Mar 18, 2021 05:43
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It also doesn't help that after the VPA beat them the PLA ransacked everything on their way back to China, and part of the reason they were hostile was that Vietnam was in Cambodia (after ousting pol pot, a chinese ally) ending the Genocide Pol Pot was doing China having any positive relations with southeast asia is honestly a loving miracle, they treat them like the US treats south america
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Mar 18, 2021 05:55
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There was a modest thaw during the 1980s between the USSR and the PRC.
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Mar 18, 2021 05:57
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Grapplejack posted:China having any positive relations with southeast asia is honestly a loving miracle, they treat them like the US treats south america with the added dynamic of the overseas Chinese (华侨)
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Mar 18, 2021 06:02
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https://mobile.twitter.com/duyeonkim/status/1372405156050997251 we have no idea how to solve our mutually exclusive interests and are beginning to suspect there might not even be any point in trying but take comfort in the fact that we came to this conclusion using proper diplomacy
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Mar 18, 2021 07:53
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Grapplejack posted:It also doesn't help that after the VPA beat them the PLA ransacked everything on their way back to China, and part of the reason they were hostile was that Vietnam was in Cambodia (after ousting pol pot, a chinese ally) ending the Genocide Pol Pot was doing Did the VPA beat them? My understanding was that the PLA was never supposed to advance too far into Vietnam and I'm pretty sure Vietnam themselves didn't wholly abandon their positions inside Cambodia, so they didn't treat it as an existential thread. Of course, pound for pound the VPA was a more serious affair, but there are no weight classes in war. Still, the US losing in Vietnam was quite possibly what won them the cold war. shrike82 posted:with the added dynamic of the overseas Chinese (华侨) What are you implying my dude?
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Mar 18, 2021 09:50
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places like Thailand and Indonesia have a significant number of overseas Chinese who over time have integrated into the ruling political/business elite, and there are still ethnic tensions. it was only 1998 where there were pretty bad anti-chinese pogroms in Indonesia singapore's also an interesting case where it's government policy to maintain an ethnic chinese majority population and non-chinese are kept out of higher military positions stuff like this is why i tend to roll my eyes when people talk about asia purely from the pro-US/anti-US lens
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Mar 18, 2021 10:03
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Sokeel/status/1372481939521691650
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Mar 18, 2021 14:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:okay sorry folks I was zonked out on painkillers last night so I didn't get to post what a mess. it seems like China made a bunch of bafflingly stupid moves that have only served to weaken socialism globally
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Mar 18, 2021 16:39
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shrike82 posted:places like Thailand and Indonesia have a significant number of overseas Chinese who over time have integrated into the ruling political/business elite, and there are still ethnic tensions. I think you should stick to your bit of hate listening to chapo and posting "heh, lefties" itt.
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Mar 18, 2021 16:40
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fart simpson posted:the two that got shot up in atlanta and not in the suburbs, were in the only spot in atlanta which could be vaguely considered a red light district. whether or not they actually were venues for the sex trade, the fact that the shooter drove to this specific neighborhood indicates to me that his actions were sex motivated totally cool that youre totally ignoring the fact that asian women are very often fetishized and this is absolutely race motivated but sure go on you gonna use the cop line that "he was just frustrated and had a bad day" too? hey buddy is the old asian lady that was attacked by a white dude in san francisco also just a random act of violence and not race motivated also? im all ears Agrajag has issued a correction as of 17:14 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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