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Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
Did tinsley do the baby food one or was that fish man?

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By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Always fun when a soulless corporation finally has enough of some pest's bullshit. it's a rare moment.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Ambitious Spider posted:

Did tinsley do the baby food one or was that fish man?

That was the Fish Man.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

SneezeOfTheDecade posted:

That was the Fish Man.



Feeding babies with spicy Indian curry and a serving of wine is good, right?

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Tinsley always keeps punching himself in the dick. First it was that Ilhan Omar cartoon that got him "a long vacation" to the point that Fishman took over. Now when he occasionally does his own strips he's so vile that he keeps getting himself canceled.

Edit: wow Tinsley is a dense motherfucker

quote:

"I've thought a million times [whether he'd be a victim of 'cancel culture'], 'This is it, I don't even know if I'm going to turn this in'," he said. "But of all the cartoons — it vaguely centers on Biden's doing that as his first executive order. There certainly was nothing derogatory about transgender people. It was just about what I see as a really unfair environment in sports."

seiferguy fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Mar 18, 2021

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts
e: ^^ "I haven't said anything derogatory about trans women, except that they're not women!"

While I'm poking my nose in...

Robert Ariail


Lisa Benson


Steve Breen


Tim Campbell


Jeff Danziger


Matt Davies


Ed Gamble


Phil Hands


David "Oops! All Giant Heads" Hitch


Clay Jones


Lee Judge


Kevin Kallaugher


Steve Kelley


Mike Luckovich


David Margulies


Marty Two Bulls, Sr.


Jack Ohman


Mike Ramirez


Jeff Stahler


Kirk Walters


Signe Wilkinson


Matt Wuerker

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




Hard to read this as anything other than "'legal' immigrants and migrants have to wait a shitload of time before they can even be considered".

quote:

Steve Kelley


Mike Ramirez


Piss up a rope.

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that bit about voter ID laws is a lie. Sounds like one of those stats where they polled only conservatives.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Grimdude posted:

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that bit about voter ID laws is a lie. Sounds like one of those stats where they polled only conservatives.

Voter ID laws probably often poll well because they're framed as something other than suppression.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




I was surprised to learn that to vote in France you need a Voter ID, but then again, it seems that they're very easy to get (it's just your national identification card), and voting by and large in France is shockingly easy.

If the ID cards were easy to get why not? It's clear that's not the plan though.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Coming from any country besides the US - what's wrong with national IDs from a leftist perspective (i.e, other than "it's the mark of the beast")?

100YrsofAttitude posted:

I was surprised to learn that to vote in France you need a Voter ID, but then again, it seems that they're very easy to get (it's just your national identification card), and voting by and large in France is shockingly easy.

If the ID cards were easy to get why not? It's clear that's not the plan though.
Over here (and, once again, pretty much everywhere) you get the ID for free, it's replaced for free if lost, you're required to carry it with you by law, and it's used whenever you need to identify yourself - vote, receive goods and services, etc.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

It's the same in Sweden. You need an ID to vote but getting an ID is cheap and easy. And if you're poor its free and they will constantly nudge you to get one.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009



Yeah, the concept of needing an ID isn't the issue. The "no DMVs in black counties" is the issue.

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

Xander77 posted:

Coming from any country besides the US - what's wrong with national IDs from a leftist perspective (i.e, other than "it's the mark of the beast")?

Over here (and, once again, pretty much everywhere) you get the ID for free, it's replaced for free if lost, you're required to carry it with you by law, and it's used whenever you need to identify yourself - vote, receive goods and services, etc.

Voter ID laws are almost always paired with restrictions on ID card availability, restrictions that mysteriously only affect urban areas.

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009

Grimdude posted:

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that bit about voter ID laws is a lie. Sounds like one of those stats where they polled only conservatives.

It's likely based on a 2016 Gallup poll in which 80% of Americans were in favour of presenting photo identification upon voting. They also supported automatic registration for all citizens.

This is not the same as a National Voter ID, which as I understand would require specifically a voter ID, not just any piece of government issued photo ID to prove you are the person on the list at the polling booth.

RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012

It took me a long time to understand American jokes about the DMV.

The longest I have ever had to wait in any government office for any reason was the last time I had to renew my driver's license and it was maybe half an hour, because I showed up and it was really busy that day, but I didn't have any pressing appointments when I showed up at 11am so I just waited.

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013

Ben posted:

BIDEN’S BORDER CRISIS

The Joe Biden regime refuses to call the situation on our southern border a crisis, even though it clearly is—and it’s one of Joe’s own making.

During the Democratic debates, a question was asked. “Would you provide free health care for illegal immigrants?” Nearly all the candidates raised their hands. Including Biden.

Biden claims he is undoing the ‘damage’ done by President Trump by allowing anyone and everyone in. He also wants to tear down Trump’s walls and leave the border wide open to anyone in the world. Joe’s virtue signaling will end in disaster—for someone else. Average Americans will pay the price in terms of higher taxes as well as endure more crime and less wages for jobs. The virtue signaling among the Democrats is so powerful that they don’t even test the illegal aliens for COVID-19. You can bet they test all American citizens who are returning home from abroad.

Meanwhile, dithering Joe is taking zero responsibility as he continues on his quest to destroy America. Socialism and the promise of ‘free stuff’ are a terrible combo. Joe weakly claimed he wants the flood of illegals to stop, but so far he has done nothing to stop it.

The borders are wide open while troops, fences, and barbed wire surround the nation’s capital. Citizens are unprotected while a walled-up government protects itself. The irony and hypocrisy reeks.

—Ben Garrison


quote:

What Crisis?: Orange Man bad according to Democrats who now have cages with butterflies on them. Built back better.



Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Steve Bell on the UK’s vaccination drive – Dominic Cummings has told MPs that problems at the health department prompted him to argue for a separate taskforce to procure vaccines for the UK"

Telegraph:

EU threatens to halt Covid vaccine exports to UK unless it gets ‘fair share’

Matt:


Independent:


Times:

Bonus! Morland's animated cartoon.

Evening Standard:


Mail:
PAUL THOMAS on... the EU's vaccine caution

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

It's a bad cartoon with not much of a message, but I have to give it a slight amount of respect for using the correct name of the Springfield newspaper.

Cloud Potato posted:


Evening Standard:


So, she was right? Doesn't look like it went too far there.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 18, 2021

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Grimdude posted:

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that bit about voter ID laws is a lie. Sounds like one of those stats where they polled only conservatives.

Gallup in 2016 had it at 80%. Similar margins for early voting and automatic registration too though.

I may support it if the ID was free and easy to get, and an effort was made to get one to everyone eligible.

Edit: Kinda beaten, but one big issue with getting IDs is we don't have a national ID so there are different rules and regulations between states and if you are an adult without a car you may basically never need one so might not get one (especially if you are poor, disabled, elderly, or in a place that does not have a handy DMV).

RoboRodent posted:

It took me a long time to understand American jokes about the DMV.

The longest I have ever had to wait in any government office for any reason was the last time I had to renew my driver's license and it was maybe half an hour, because I showed up and it was really busy that day, but I didn't have any pressing appointments when I showed up at 11am so I just waited.
The worst thing you can do to many Americans is mildly inconvenience them. I'm serious. I got into an argument with some libertarian about having to wait in a doctor's office for an appointment, something they considered unacceptable and reason for more market competition.

Murdstone fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Mar 18, 2021

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

Conservatives got usually pretty adept at making voting restrictions sound like common sense solutions (why WOULDN'T you have to show ID when you vote?) but 2020 basically put an end to that. "We don't think The Blacks should vote because they robbed us of our precious Trump."

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Abyssal Squid posted:

Voter ID laws are almost always paired with restrictions on ID card availability, restrictions that mysteriously only affect urban areas.
Also there aren't many places in the US where you can get a valid ID for free, making the requirement of one a poll tax and therefore unconstitutional via the 24th amendment.

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on
Yeah I guess that number is pretty believable. Your average person hears "needing an ID to vote" and it sounds simple/innocent enough. But I guess that's the danger of what people refer to as common sense politics.

Trazz
Jun 11, 2008

Hi can I share these?

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

That's the typical right wing sleight of hand on these things. They go "oh we're not banning voting, you just need to get a proper ID," then if you look at the fine print, you find out that to get your ID, you need to go to your county's registration office that's 45 minutes away, only open from 12:45 PM to 2:30 PM every third Wednesday except on months with a full moon, and hope that the one worker they have available that day is the one who knows how to work the TRS-80 they've rigged up with a 28.8k baud modem to get you sorted.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:

Pope:

ASIO boss says spy agency will dump terms 'rightwing extremism' and 'Islamic extremism' (Guardian). Previously when ASIO brought up the rise in threat of far right extremism in Australia Dutton refused to bring it up unless he also slammed "far left" extremism in the same sentence, despite ASIO saying that leftwing extremism is "not currently prominent in Australia".

Rowe:

The current big piece of legislation in parliament is the government's omnibus Industrial Relations bill covering casual employment. Because of how Australia elects the senate it is very rare there is a majority, so if a policy is not bipartisan with the major parties then the government needs to find senators on the crossbench, a bunch of minor parties from all over the political spectrum. The IR minister is away on defending-against-historical-rape-allegation leave and to get something passable the government has stripped out nearly everything, so what was an omnibus reform bill is now a tiny poo poo sandwich. Rowe's paper The Australian Financial Review (behind paywall) is scathing: "IR debacle is a lesson in how to waste a crisis".

Wilcox:

The goverment was boasting of better than expected employment figures yesterday, but this is all before their JobKeeper subsidies run out which is expected to make things significantly worse.

Leak, Son of Leak:

The EU is blocking vaccine exports to other countries such as Australia.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
The problem with Voter ID laws has always been that we don't have a national ID that's distributed to everyone, so the question is immediately "what IDs count?" I'd have literally 0 issue with Voter ID laws if everyone was given an ID that they could easily get and replace. But we don't have that, so voter ID laws are always a way to disenfranchise certain populations because they don't have certain types of ID.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
Requirements to vote in the US have been a major issue for basically the last 150 years since starting in the mid 1860s you had substantial populations able to vote but who were, for some reason, often lacking the documentation or paperwork or even just the loaded down family bible full of genealogical records (which were and afaik often still are considered valid documentation for various official and legal purposes). This persisted as a consideration through pretty much the entire share cropping era and was compounded by all the jim crow bullshit that was trying to delegitimize black families and/or their official existence. Hell, even in the 70s and 80s it was still regularly a thing where it was hard or even impossible to track down documentation of old-timers.

tldr, vital records have been an instrument of white supremacy in the us basically since day one
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/09/11/birth-certificates-have-always-been-weapon-white-supremacists/

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Trapezium Dave posted:

Leak, Son of Leak:

The EU is blocking vaccine exports to other countries such as Australia.

Salt the Anglo earth, and all that it spawned. No more perfidious Albions.

CuwiKhons
Sep 24, 2009

Seven idiots and a bear walk into a dragon's lair.

MechaCrash posted:

That's the typical right wing sleight of hand on these things. They go "oh we're not banning voting, you just need to get a proper ID," then if you look at the fine print, you find out that to get your ID, you need to go to your county's registration office that's 45 minutes away, only open from 12:45 PM to 2:30 PM every third Wednesday except on months with a full moon, and hope that the one worker they have available that day is the one who knows how to work the TRS-80 they've rigged up with a 28.8k baud modem to get you sorted.

Yeah this is the other major problem even if ID's were free. You can only get them from certain places, which often have absolutely absurd and inconvenient hours. My local DMV actually has fairly normal hours*, 8am-5pm but it's not open on the weekends or holidays because it's a government office. So... when do you go to the DMV? If you're poor then it's entirely possible that you can't get afford to take time off (because you probably don't get paid time off) to go sit at the DMV for 3 hours in the middle of your workday in order to get an ID, which if you don't drive, you don't normally need. Even if you don't have a job, what if you have kids? Do you have someone to watch them while you go to the DMV? Or are you going to bring them with you for a completely unknown amount of time? And if it's your first time getting an ID, you'll also need to have documentation that you may not have on hand and also have to pay for copies of (birth certificate, etc).

*Subject to change on any random rear end day because they loving feel like it, I guess.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Grape posted:

Salt the Anglo earth, and all that it spawned. No more perfidious Albions.

I mean Australia is innocent in that one.

Though they should be maybe more upset at Britain.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Grondoth posted:

The problem with Voter ID laws has always been that we don't have a national ID that's distributed to everyone, so the question is immediately "what IDs count?" I'd have literally 0 issue with Voter ID laws if everyone was given an ID that they could easily get and replace. But we don't have that, so voter ID laws are always a way to disenfranchise certain populations because they don't have certain types of ID.

Of course if you point this out then you're met with "Oh, so you think minorities are too poor and stupid to figure out how to get a driver's license? Guess we know who the real racist is!"

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

wizzardstaff posted:

Of course if you point this out then you're met with "Oh, so you think minorities are too poor and stupid to figure out how to get a driver's license? Guess we know who the real racist is!"

The idea that people can live where they don't have to learn how to drive is a shockingly alien concept to some people, I've realized. They never even think about that.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
We're just over 2 weeks past Mallard Fillmore being dropped by all those newspapers. Can't wait for him to continue his free hand of the market cancel culture tantrum.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

gently caress you forever and a day, Ramirez. There's a big loving difference between asking a kid for ID and using ID laws as a bludgeon to keep minorities down.

Kellies nomination: Most wilfully dense.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Grondoth posted:

The idea that people can live where they don't have to learn how to drive is a shockingly alien concept to some people, I've realized. They never even think about that.

Most of the US that isn't in huge metro cores is set up so that you basically either live on busses for hours a day or you drive. The contrast is especially bleak for Europeans where, from the countries i lived in or have spent time in, on average you'd have a comparable amount of public transport in 1-200,000 person cities as you'd have in a 2,000,000 person city in the US. Sometimes considerably more. The US has a lot of cities over a million people where the entirety of public transit is a questionably funded and obsoletely laid out bus system.

I miss tram systems a lot, tbh

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Mar 19, 2021

UZworm
Feb 9, 2009

Young wild Elsweyrian
C'mon baby, do you have a soul gem

I legit thought the one who's supposed to be a kid was a really old man for the first few seconds I was staring at this and I was baffled. Professional artist!

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

Rall: Stop Blocking Our Theoretical Legislation

Ted Rall posted:

Joe Biden is the latest Democratic president to imply that he has all sorts of radical solutions to the extreme problems faced by the country at this time but that they are being blocked by the Republicans. The problem with his argument, however, is that he hasn’t proposed these solutions in the form of legislation.

First Dog on the Moon: ASIO will no longer be referring to right or left, simply as the 'goodies' or the 'baddies'

Trapezium Dave fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Mar 19, 2021

Strawberry Pyramid
Dec 12, 2020

by Pragmatica
Just a reminder on ID chat is that this may finally be the year the final stage of REAL ID goes into effect in October: requiring a REAL ID on all domestic flights. So if you can't bring it an embossed birth certificate, valid government photo id, and at least two separate pieces of mail from a bank or utility or voter card to an open DMV, oops no more flights for you!

And bank and utilities, for some reason, have gotten increasingly insistent in recent years that their customers go paperless for billing. Weird!

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Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

Trapezium Dave posted:

Rall: Stop Blocking Our Theoretical Legislation


The house passed three bills just yesterday you disingenuous twit.

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