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Wrr posted:Saw some sort of new expansion got released for the game; is it good yet? Very.
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Is the "3 dock t" module bugged? It says it needs seemingly infinite x and y axis space Nvm got it, uis just bad lol RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Mar 18, 2021 18:17
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I'm so used to building stations with the base game that I figured I'd use the Split trinary buildings and goddamn that makes it hard to look nice:
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Mar 18, 2021 18:22
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Less Fat Luke posted:I'm so used to building stations with the base game that I figured I'd use the Split trinary buildings and goddamn that makes it hard to look nice: Not that it's easy, but they're no worse than the Paranid sections. You can make symmetrical bases with them if that floats your spaceboats, but it is annoying. 
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Mar 18, 2021 18:35
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Mar 18, 2021 18:52
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Wow gas is lucrative, a 400k piece of poo poo makes 120k a run
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Mar 18, 2021 19:16
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RBA Starblade posted:Wow gas is lucrative, a 400k piece of poo poo makes 120k a run Silicon is also pretty good. At least it was before the mining changes. I haven't had a chance to check.
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Mar 18, 2021 19:26
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I'm making really good profit in Titan with Hydrogen/Methane and 2nd Contact with Ore/Silicon and have my HQ set up as just a ware trading station with a few traders buying and selling stuff from the storage.
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Mar 18, 2021 19:43
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Silicon is still quite available and does about 100k a run with a good teladi miner, and is in demand in a lot of places. Gas can be pretty good but I don't know how much of it is really needed in the long run. Ore is neede in large volumes but is not as expensive, nividium I've had a lot of trouble getting hold of in any volume, I think honestly it might be better to mine that yourself and target the nodes on the rock to maximise yield. But a good first station to set up is the hull parts chain, which uses refined metal plates from ore, so it's a viable early input ware for processed goods. I also found a seeming concentration of inventory crystals in the radioactive sections of The Void, so I don't know if perhaps they pushed the crystals to more dangerous locations? OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Mar 18, 2021 19:53
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OwlFancier posted:Silicon is still quite available and does about 100k a run with a good teladi miner, and is in demand in a lot of places. Gas can be pretty good but I don't know how much of it is really needed in the long run. It was just the cheapest and easiest thing I've got around lol, got a methane miner in Grand Exchange and I'm tossing a silicon one up there once it gets me a few more bucks. I sent my kestrel to buy the silicon carbide because traders won't; I take it back, the trading and mining stuff is significantly easier now, it's great The autopilot clipped me inside an asteroid and I had to juke my way out so that hasn't improved lol. It also declared it Epically Failed I've also discovered the main ring, I assume, so things are starting to make sense with that. I hosed the map up again by alt-tabbing and now I have a thousands of kilometers long sector though
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Mar 18, 2021 19:57
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Collision detection is tied to frame rate and you can sometimes clip into things if you move quickly and have very low fps, like when you're using borderless windowed mode and you're doing something on a different monitor. The first teleportation tech of the PHQ is a life saver. Collision detection is turned off in low-attention areas, which is basically everything outside a generous radius around the player ship.
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Mar 18, 2021 20:05
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Are Large auto miners worth saving for, or should I just be getting swarms of mediums?
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Mar 18, 2021 20:30
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i had like 30 mediums before i grabbed a large, and i used the large to mine nvidium for a bit
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Mar 18, 2021 20:31
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How important are resource probes now, is it worth it to place down for my nvidium miners?
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Mar 18, 2021 21:39
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sloppy portmanteau posted:How important are resource probes now, is it worth it to place down for my nvidium miners? Actually maybe this is more helpful than me. EDIT: eyyy, first hotfix/beta patch for 4.00 adds the Argon docking site to Terran players so they don't have to haul Terran bullshit into Grand Exchange to build the HQ dock: quote:Version: 4.00 Hotfix 1 Beta 1 (433264) - 2021-03-18 [Nice Fixes!] Squiggle fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Mar 18, 2021 22:01
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The game automatically makes you missions to put them down for your idiot miners, so fairly
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Mar 18, 2021 22:08
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Soooo Terran space is basically entirely strip-mined of resources now and I really need my Manager to get to 4 stars so I can mine out ANT space.
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Mar 18, 2021 22:16
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Less Fat Luke posted:I'm so used to building stations with the base game that I figured I'd use the Split trinary buildings and goddamn that makes it hard to look nice: The Split station modules are the best in the game, you're just going about it wrong. Here's a quick hull part thing I just whipped up in the station designer. You'll have to use your imagination a little bit because it's the transparent outlines, but you get the idea. Make cool hexagons and spiral patterns, not boring grids.  
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Mar 18, 2021 23:22
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So I think the mining changes might have gone too far. I played a 200hr game back last year on Beta 4 and I didn't have much problem using the resource probes to guide miners around. Now it seems the entire map is 100% depleted of resources, my miners are taking hours to collect enough ore to fill their holds now and most stations don't have enough to produce resources. It doesn't seem to matter where I look for it, Xenon sectors say they have a ton of resources in the Info tab but if you put down a probe there's like 0.005 kg ore or silcon there and it's pretty uniform throughout the sector. No idea how to get my economy going honestly like this. I have dozens of miners that aren't contributing anything now.
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Mar 19, 2021 01:03
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Are Large auto miners worth saving for, or should I just be getting swarms of mediums? You can get those for free from faction missions fully equipped, crewed, and with a hold full of nividium, it's nuts
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Mar 19, 2021 01:06
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Thom12255 posted:So I think the mining changes might have gone too far. I played a 200hr game back last year on Beta 4 and I didn't have much problem using the resource probes to guide miners around. i think tamping down on the infinite resource spigot was pretty much the point. I haven't experienced this so far though I'm only ~6 game hours into converting my game to 4.0. Even more reasons to murder every HOP ship I see IMO it would work better if it had plots-like license system so you could 'own' valuable mining zones. TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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Mar 19, 2021 01:10
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:i think tamping down on the infinite resource spigot was pretty much the point. I haven't experienced this so far though I'm only ~6 game hours into converting my game to 4.0. My game is 2.5 days in.
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Mar 19, 2021 01:25
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You know I'm not sure this AI thought this plan all the way through.
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Mar 19, 2021 01:36
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Finding that cause terran fighters are the slowest in the game that picking combat thrusters is the way to go if you plan to do alot of fighting for that 10x bigger boost meter
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Mar 19, 2021 02:22
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What are the blue clouds from the long range scanner, I thought it would be minable gas but my probe says it's definitely not that
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Mar 19, 2021 02:31
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ima t 17.5 hours right now or so and my miners are still going strong. oh fuuuuuck a FAF rattlesnake. i need to board that poo poo. queeb fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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Mar 19, 2021 03:14
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Thom12255 posted:So I think the mining changes might have gone too far. I played a 200hr game back last year on Beta 4 and I didn't have much problem using the resource probes to guide miners around. Do they regenerate or are we going to kill the galaxy with our miners now Why build fleets when you can mine a faction to extinction 
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Mar 19, 2021 03:32
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queeb posted:ima t 17.5 hours right now or so and my miners are still going strong. Be careful with that one. SCA ships have partial crews of total chumps, but last I checked a FAF rattlesnake is going to have a full crew of stone cold murderers. You can have a boarding crew with several SCA destroyers under their belt that will still be unceremoniously wiped by the FAF. Despite the name they do not faff about.
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Mar 19, 2021 03:39
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yeah, I grabbed it but their 24 crew killed like 70 of my rookies. it was a close call.
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Mar 19, 2021 03:52
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Are FAF like SCA in the way that your relations are locked at -5?
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Mar 19, 2021 03:56
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 guess not! edit: also yeah all areas regenerate. you can watch it happen live if you have the system info screen open, the mineral numbers climb or fall and just had another rattlesnake pop up on radar, lets see if i can bag a 2nd nope, loving patrol came by and blapped it. queeb fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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Mar 19, 2021 04:03
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Stevefin posted:Finding that cause terran fighters are the slowest in the game that picking combat thrusters is the way to go if you plan to do alot of fighting for that 10x bigger boost meter Terran engines look like garbage stats-wise but they have near instantaneous acceleration into boost and travel mode that makes them shockingly good for getting around. I'd say it's weird that this isn't ever really documented anywhere but it's an Egosoft game so I expect nothing less.
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Mar 19, 2021 04:43
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feels good just printing money like mad. workforce is really good too, ive never actually added workers to a station before but at 31% workforce so far its gone from 10k/h to 13120/h god this game is so pretty my rattlesnake flying over to drop boarding pods to cap this 2nd one. 
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Mar 19, 2021 04:51
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Dropped a single Argon SPP in Mercury and   Took a few hours to get setup but god drat is that a lot of energy cells.
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3 posted:Terran engines look like garbage stats-wise but they have near instantaneous acceleration into boost and travel mode that makes them shockingly good for getting around. I'd say it's weird that this isn't ever really documented anywhere but it's an Egosoft game so I expect nothing less. Yeah I did find that out fast when the starting fighter out paced the free ship you are given from the HQ. Combat thrusters make even more sense since you can get instant speed from a single tap. It also means you probably don't want mix fleets of terran size S/M ships since the S ships can't keep pace
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The takuta(?) can keep pace with slower Katanas in travel drive, but not in cruise
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:The takuta(?) can keep pace with slower Katanas in travel drive, but not in cruise Something about the Takoba makes this property of Terran engines particularly evident, that thing goes from zero to max in travel drive in no time at all. Love that thing.
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BMan posted:What are the blue clouds from the long range scanner, I thought it would be minable gas but my probe says it's definitely not that It's Ore/Silicon/Ice afaik.
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The SPP in Mercury kinda isn't great. Pretty remote and I've not had a single NPC ever visit because other NPC's have plants in the area selling for lower than I can possibly lower my prices to. They sell for 8 my minimum is 10. I got some cargo ships selling stuff manually for now which is turning a profit but is kinda disappointing that it didn't bring in the kind of haul I wanted.
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RBA Starblade posted:It was just the cheapest and easiest thing I've got around lol, got a methane miner in Grand Exchange and I'm tossing a silicon one up there once it gets me a few more bucks. I sent my kestrel to buy the silicon carbide because traders won't; I take it back, the trading and mining stuff is significantly easier now, it's great If you end up stuck in a rock, a good option is to put your ship under pilot control, they're smarter than the autopilot and can also glitch themselves out of rocks again. But yeah it does still stuff you into asteroids sometimes unfortunately, having someone else fly for you is more reliable generally. You will need at least one gas miner at some point so it's not a bad thing to put down, I would just focus more on rock miners in the long run because I'm not sure how much gas demand there is and most of the commonwealth goods are derived from ore and silicon at some point so you want piles of them if you're setting up industry. queeb posted:feels good I'm fairly sure workforce is actually incredibly good because it increases the number of products you get but not the resources you consume, which basically means it flat out adds profit to any production run. And if you combine that with doing multiple processing steps where you make products and then feed them into other productions, it compounds the effect, so yeah you absolutely want workforce on your stations as soon as possible because they are super good at increasing your profitsss. cheesetriangles posted:The SPP in Mercury kinda isn't great. Pretty remote and I've not had a single NPC ever visit because other NPC's have plants in the area selling for lower than I can possibly lower my prices to. They sell for 8 my minimum is 10. I got some cargo ships selling stuff manually for now which is turning a profit but is kinda disappointing that it didn't bring in the kind of haul I wanted. Yeah see this is what I was expecting, the ecell economy is just totally flooded all the time in the game because they're so trivial to make. Just because you can make a lot of them doesn't mean that it's necessarily very useful. You would probably do better putting one in Jupiter or somewhere where there aren't any other stations nearby, it won't be efficient but you will at least be the only one making them. But broadly ecells just aren't a viable trade good, they're only really good for feeding your own stations where they just need a constant supply of them. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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