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HermanCain posted:Guys guys guys I don't get it, I already paid for this gun and I can totally earn back those costs by robbing people at gunpoint! lol
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xtal posted:Yeah, that seems to be the sticking point here. The thing is that "crime" ranges from being gay to using drugs to exposing USA war crimes depending on the jurisdiction. I'm not sure if you're just doubling down on being disingenuous here or are just that desperately brainwormy for buttcoins.
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Bitcoin specifically can't do useful calculations but crypto coins can be earned arbitrarily and don't have to be mined at all. Bananocoin is a meme cryptocurrency rewarded for doing Folding@Home protein research for example. There are others rewarded for CGI rendering or file storage.
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:Bitcoin specifically can't do useful calculations but crypto coins can be earned arbitrarily and don't have to be mined at all. Bananocoin is a meme cryptocurrency rewarded for doing Folding@Home protein research for example. There are others rewarded for CGI rendering or file storage. Cryptocurrencies can be earned arbitrarily, but cryptocurrency networks ultimately need miners contributing computational resources to the network in order to survive. Bananocoin is no different in this regard; at the end of day its transactions are performed by an army of hardware doing pointless busy work, the network just happens to also donate cryptocurrency to people who are contributing computational power to worthwhile projects like folding@home. That's just a stapled-on feature; the proof of work hardware running the Bananocoin network is unable to contribute to folding@home
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I'm not sure if you're just doubling down on being disingenuous here or are just that desperately brainwormy for buttcoins. that guy is a gimmick poster whose gimmick is to insist that cryptocurrency is actually left-wing (against all the evidence showing that the bitcoin community is exclusively populated by right-libertarians) and that it will lead to the downfall of capitalism or some poo poo like that.
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Mar 19, 2021 12:05
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ogarza posted:
This is why we call home miners stupid, because none of you know how to do the math either. You can't include the hash rate from your already purchased cards, because you already had those and presumably would have continued to kill the planet with them anyway. When figuring out if this addition is profitable, you have to only consider the additional hash rate/profit from adding this card. You also have to decide whether you're selling the crime pogs as you accrue them, or holding onto them like gollum in the hopes that you can make even more money. That's also not taking into account EIP 1559, which will cut mining income by a pretty hefty amount. You also have to consider the marginal cost of the electricity to power this additional card. If any of those factors pushes this card negative, you will have net LOST money buying this compared to doing nothing. Also gently caress you for being a large part of the reason cards are so hard to find at retail.
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Winged Orpheus posted:This is why we call home miners stupid, because none of you know how to do the math either. You can't include the hash rate from your already purchased cards, because you already had those and presumably would have continued to kill the planet with them anyway. When figuring out if this addition is profitable, you have to only consider the additional hash rate/profit from adding this card. lmao i didn't even notice that part when i skimmed over that post hey I did the math and it turns out every time i add a new card it is even more efficient than the last! once I add my hundredth card it will be earning me a million dollars per hour and i can retire rich!!!
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ogarza posted:
Jfc, take a business 101 class and learn about equipment depreciation.
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That totally sucks. I propose we ask the oil seeking slave state to put an end to it.
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Mar 19, 2021 14:21
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The rise of socialism will come when we drag the crypto mining bourgeoisie to the gallows and redistribute the GPUs to the gaming proletariat.
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xtal posted:Weird hearing this analogy since crypto is a vanguard party and nocoiners are lumpen.
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*leaves computer running for a long time* Just doing my revolutionary duty!
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xtal posted:That totally sucks. I propose we ask the oil seeking slave state to put an end to it. listen here buddy I'm from oil seeking slave state and I say kill em all
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Mar 19, 2021 14:32
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Rufio posted:*leaves computer running for a long time* C. F. Tor exit nodes.
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Of course, a thread full of bootlickers probably doesn't want free speech in China either. After all, it's criminal. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 19, 2021 14:36
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xtal posted:Of course, a thread full of bootlickers probably doesn't want free speech in China either.  This should be fun.
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Mar 19, 2021 14:37
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QuarkJets posted:Lots of people have managed to not lose sleep over some truly abhorrent poo poo, don't assume that your lack of guilty feelings must mean that what you're doing is fine. That's not what I'm saying. If you have a problem with the environmental impact of butts but aren't doing other things to minimize you're environmental impact, lol. It's just a strange hill to die on since there are other, much more impactful things you can do. If you actually care about the environment and aren't arguing from some asinine point.
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Mar 19, 2021 14:39
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xtal posted:C. F. Tor exit nodes. hello CIA
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Mar 19, 2021 14:40
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Nocoiners disguising their bootlicking fetish as environmentalism is quite approximate to anti lockdown people appropriating mental health concerns
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xtal posted:Of course, a thread full of bootlickers probably doesn't want free speech in China either. After all, it's criminal. Your posts are making me reconsider my stance on free speech. I think China is onto something.
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Why no, crypto isn't a cult, now let me tell you about the ignorant nocoiner hordes and how their every word is brainwashed lies.
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I have some bad news for some of you about cash. That too can be used for criminal enterprise. That convivence store down the road could also be used to launder money. Your laundromat might be owned by organized crime, etc.
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Mar 19, 2021 14:48
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Stanley Pain posted:I have some bad news for some of you about cash. That too can be used for criminal enterprise. That convivence store down the road could also be used to launder money. Your laundromat might be owned by organized crime, etc. lmao going with the "you can kill someone with a hammer so giving everyone guns is good actually" approach
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"I think we should improve our energy consumption somewhat". "And yet your corporeal form uses energy. Curious! I am very smart".
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:"I think we should improve our energy consumption somewhat". We absolutely should. Haven't really seen anyone say otherwise. Jose Valasquez posted:lmao going with the "you can kill someone with a hammer so giving everyone guns is good actually" approach Sure, if that's what you get from the conversation. Nuance hasn't really been this threads strong point though.
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Stanley Pain posted:We absolutely should. Haven't really seen anyone say otherwise. You, repeatedly, defending cryptofucking.
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I think the "cryptocurrency helps facilitate crimes" argument is a bad argument, because it makes it sound like there's a practical use case when there isn't. Here's the thing: it's not even particularly good for that use. Most cryptos are pseudonymous, not anonymous, which is a really loving lousy trait in a currency being used for illicit transactions. Physical cash is safer than cryptos if you want to do crimes and not get caught at some point. Cryptos are not even particularly great for illicit and criminal use cases! The only use cases where cryptos work well are "purely speculative 'investments'" and "scamming gullible internet users"! Stanley Pain posted:That's not what I'm saying. If you have a problem with the environmental impact of butts but aren't doing other things to minimize you're environmental impact, lol. It's just a strange hill to die on since there are other, much more impactful things you can do. If you actually care about the environment and aren't arguing from some asinine point.
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Yeah except for the cryptos that are completely anonymous. Crypto is insanely good for crime lol it's like the only thing they're good for, apart from speculation.
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Blotto_Otter posted:I think the "cryptocurrency helps facilitate crimes" argument is a bad argument, because it makes it sound like there's a practical use case when there isn't. Here's the thing: it's not even particularly good for that use. Most cryptos are pseudonymous, not anonymous, which is a really loving lousy trait in a currency being used for illicit transactions. Physical cash is safer than cryptos if you want to do crimes and not get caught at some point. Doctor_Fruitbat posted:You, repeatedly, defending cryptofucking. Not defending it at all. Re-read my first posts. But I'll spell it out again here for the sake of being as clear as I can. Large scale crypto mining is absolutely a problem from an environmental perspective. Dumb fucks like me mining a few hours a day are not. People crying about dumb fucks like me mining while not doing anything else to better the environment are hypocritical at best. GPU mining in someone's spare time is a drop of water in the ocean by comparison.
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Blotto_Otter posted:I think the "cryptocurrency helps facilitate crimes" argument is a bad argument, because it makes it sound like there's a practical use case when there isn't. Here's the thing: it's not even particularly good for that use. Most cryptos are pseudonymous, not anonymous, which is a really loving lousy trait in a currency being used for illicit transactions. Physical cash is safer than cryptos if you want to do crimes and not get caught at some point. Its way loving easier to text someone some numbers then put a bunch of cash in a duffel bag and get it on a plane.
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Stanley Pain posted:Not defending it at all. Re-read my first posts. But I'll spell it out again here for the sake of being as clear as I can. Does your mining help cryptocurrency move from one location to the other at all?
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Stanley Pain posted:Not defending it at all. Re-read my first posts. But I'll spell it out again here for the sake of being as clear as I can. "Large scale industrial farming is absolutely a problem from an environmental perspective. Dumb fucks like me eating a couple of burgers a day are not. People crying about dumb fucks like me earring a burger while not doing anything else to better the environment are hypocritical at best. Me eating a burger is a drop of water in the ocean by comparison." You see the problem here? spunkshui posted:Its way loving easier to text someone some numbers then put a bunch of cash in a duffel bag and get it on a plane. edit: and since nobody actually uses butts as money, you've still got to launder those butts back into cash, which means you're still dealing with a lot of the problems involved in illicit uses of cash, but only after memorializing your criminal conspiracy on a loving blockchain. Not sure that's worth the trade off versus paying some dipshit mule to run cash across the border! Blotto_Otter fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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"re-read my posts" has got to be the worst argument of all time EDIT: "maybe THIS time you won't notice how dumb of a poo poo I am"
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xtal posted:Nocoiners disguising their bootlicking fetish as environmentalism is quite approximate to anti lockdown people appropriating mental health concerns
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Blotto_Otter posted:"Large scale industrial farming is absolutely a problem from an environmental perspective. Dumb fucks like me eating a couple of burgers a day are not. People crying about dumb fucks like me earring a burger while not doing anything else to better the environment are hypocritical at best. Me eating a burger is a drop of water in the ocean by comparison." No because factory farming has significantly more environmental impact. If you got rid of all crypto tomorrow the world would still be hosed environmentally. If we just use CO2 as a benchmark here. Butts cause about 22 million tonnes per year. Factory farming is in the hundreds of millions of tonnes per year. Factory farming also has the added benefit of millions of tons of methane output (agruably worse than CO2 from a GHG perspective), land destruction, etc. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/science/bitcoin-use-causing-huge-co2-emissions-study/articleshow/69821838.cms https://fullycrypto.com/carbon-emissions-from-farms-dwarfs-bitcoin-mining-output Which one of these things do you think is a good target to tackle from an environmental perspective? edit: Bonus reading material  https://www.humanesociety.org/sites...agriculture.pdf
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how about we tackle the one that's used by like a handful of people and didn't exist fifteen years ago, seems like it would be easier to tackle than eating livestock meat which has been part of almost every human's experience for over 10000 years (also we can tackle both at the same time) ymgve fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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ymgve posted:(also we can tackle both at the same time) Let's do this then. I've already started 30 years ago though.
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