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Dapper_Swindler posted:have some new glenn tweets. while it's certainly even more repugnant to say this about homosexual and transgender people this isn't his first suspiciously-close-to-bi-erasure hot take lately either
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1372310893552369669 here's our friend glenn fervently agreeing that black people are the REAL racists
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GreyjoyBastard posted:while it's certainly even more repugnant to say this about homosexual and transgender people this isn't his first suspiciously-close-to-bi-erasure hot take lately either i sadly didn't notice that. sorry. like on some level i "get the anger", because i have had it for other parts of the disabled community but you have to move past that poo poo and try to help everyone and help the whole community. Greenwald just sounds like he wants to be the Biggest victim or some poo poo. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Quotey posted:I understand that, but the OP is asking what he's done and "What are some of his best hits that make so many people hate him?" Then the only things that get linked is the thread on twitter about white supremacy and an article he wrote from 2005. The rest of it is just circlejerky call and response poo poo. The only good short response was the one along the lines of "he's a civil libertarian who takes it to extreme lengths" IMO. I already posted a bunch of his anti-trans rants. Why are you lying?
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Quotey posted:Sure Okay, so you have a single post from almost 10 years ago that doesn't even actually say "I'm sorry for referring to immigrants as 'hordes'" and you think that absolves him from appearing on the Tucker Carlson White Power Hour? The follow-up post is basically a classic "I'm sorry if you were offended", he even tries to reframe the things he said as looking out for the interests of undocumented people. We have a lot of more recent words and actions that extrapolate backwards to this initial blog post, so I'm gonna need to see something extrapolating the apology forward to the present, before I'm inclined to give even a tiny bit of benefit of the doubt to someone trying to use his identity as a gay man to oppress trans men Edit: let's also be clear, you can be a white nationalist without wanting to exterminate the other, the thrust of what he is saying is "people should stay in their country" which is one of the classic covers for it - "Blood and Soil" and all that BougieBitch fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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holy poo poo i'm just catching up -- people were saying "mask off" earlier in the thread but that piece about trans people today really loving is completely off edit: lmao also i see the whole "bi people in opposite-sex relationships are actually straight people faking it" part too, which totally owns and he's definitely doubling down on since he first floated that idea a week or two ago eke out fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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eke out posted:holy poo poo i'm just catching up -- people were saying "mask off" earlier in the thread but that piece about trans people today really loving is completely off https://greenwald.substack.com/p/video-with-katie-herzog-on-the-expansion here is the direct link to his little shitfuck TERF bullshit. I honestly never ever ever want to hear about Glenn allegedly doing something good ever again. I don’t care. He is a NIMBY rear end in a top hat who is cool fistbumping tucker and other nazi fucks as long as they aren't Brazilian and now he is spewing their messages for them on twitter because he is a weird rear end in a top hat. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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I could swear there was an episode of Democracy Now where they had both Assange and Greenwald on, and I remember that someone - I think it was Assange - got really mad at the other, and basically accused them and Democracy Now of being government stooges or something like that. I tried trawling through the Democracy Now archives but I can't find it. I think it was sometime in the first half of 2017, maybe 2016.
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Quotey posted:I understand that, but the OP is asking what he's done and "What are some of his best hits that make so many people hate him?" Then the only things that get linked is the thread on twitter about white supremacy and an article he wrote from 2005. The rest of it is just circlejerky call and response poo poo. The only good short response was the one along the lines of "he's a civil libertarian who takes it to extreme lengths" IMO. I mean people have pointed out several articles where he is making racist arguments and the times he has publically defended racists and the time he happily defended nazis as a lawyer and the fact that he's a regular on the most watched white supremacist show in the world and makes racist arguments while there and here's a whole twitter thread from a journalist who's familiar with him and talks about his racism. But I mean, if you ignore all of that maybe it's just circle jerks. I forgot that if you're white passing you have to basically participate in a literal lynching to be declared a white supremacist. And sometimes not even then. Maybe he's just having a bunch of "bad days".
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Jaxyon posted:I mean people have pointed out several articles where he is making racist arguments and the times he has publically defended racists and the time he happily defended nazis as a lawyer and the fact that he's a regular on the most watched white supremacist show in the world and makes racist arguments while there and here's a whole twitter thread from a journalist who's familiar with him and talks about his racism.
eke out posted:holy poo poo i'm just catching up -- people were saying "mask off" earlier in the thread but that piece about trans people today really loving is completely off it's masks all the way down BougieBitch posted:The wild thing to me is that everyone basically agrees that GG is bad with, at most, the caveat that he did good things at one point in the past but hasn't done anything of value lately. His crimes are broadcasting his lovely thoughts on every platform he has ever had and generally pursuing the spotlight to open his idiotic mouth on any and every topic. this whole thread is clearly a direct extension into this forum of some trivial dustup on twitter, where tucker memes and evidence-free namecalling are persuasive. even bougiebitch's embarrassing effortpost here doesn't name a single obviously bad thing Greenwald has done, he just spends like 500 words trying to imagine every combination of vice and prejudice that would lead someone to disagree with him. perhaps my choleric humour is unseasonably elevated and, in combination with Mercury descending through Pisces, that's what made me post in this thread
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also lol at demanding I 'meet effort with effort' when responding to a loving twitter link
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:also lol at demanding I 'meet effort with effort' when responding to a loving twitter link I mean, your post before this one is a really good one that clearly took some effort, so - more like that please!
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Majorian posted:I mean, your post before this one is a really good one that clearly took some effort, so - more like that please! suck my dick (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://greenwald.substack.com/p/video-with-katie-herzog-on-the-expansion I generally stay the hell away from Twitter, so thanks for linking this. Usually I only ever hear about Glenn from an old right-wing college friend who cites him and Bari Weiss whenever he needs launder a viewpoint through a source he thinks I'll defer to.
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I don't get why greenwald went with 'one iota of evidence' after, what, 12 months of trump and the far right yelling about the 'china virus' and 'wuhan flu' and obviously escalating anti-chinese/asian sentiment nationwide. If he was making some point about 'don't judge this before we have the full story' then sure, okay. Defaulting to a position that of course there isn't even a shred of evidence is just bizarre in light of the last 12 months. Of course there is always the simple explanation
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:
This wasn't a post about what GG has done because we already had like 5 pages of that at the start of the thread. If you can't be arsed to read a 6-page thread before responding then you are going to be missing the context of posts, it turns out. The point was that most of the damage GG does is through being a lovely loudmouth who contributes to a general atmosphere of oppression for minority people on the internet (which is no worse than, say, JK Rowling or whomever) and yet everyone who has to read his takes is completely loving sick of him because he has spent the last 6 months jerking himself off on twitter about being oppressed by cancel culture and posting horrid poo poo invalidating the experiences of oppressed minorities in the US, but nothing he has done comes anywhere close to the level of poo poo Assange has done. That's the whole point, the Greenwald poo poo has been litigated repeatedly (and at this point basically no one who posts here regularly will bother to defend him because you basically have to start defending hate speech now that he has veered into calling trans people confused lesbians) and his poo poo has completely oversaturated discourse, while we still have people unironically defending Assange against his imaginary black bag squad when he is a literal rapist who used his privilege to evade arrest and trial because people haven't revisited the facts of that situation since they made their initial knee-jerk call about whether Assange was a net positive over a decade ago before the rape allegations became public (or they just immediately assumed that they were fabricated) Edit: also it feels like some horrifying cosmic irony that we various and sundry minority posters have to explain why out and out bigotry is bad to the usual loving suspects in a microcosm of GG opening his ignorant loving mouth on Twitter about whether trans people deserve rights or Asian-Americans are currently suffering from increased hate crimes from white people. Sit the gently caress down and let people who are informed and have a stake in things lead the discussion BougieBitch fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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Unrelated but lol https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1372604301164613641?s=21 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1372632832879816705?s=21
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Free speech crusader Glenn Greenwald thinks a chud Circuit Court Judge who wants to overturn Sullivan is cool and good because she DESTROYED the mainstream media with FACTS and LOGIC in a glorified email forward she submitted as a dissent. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1372941568584335361?s=19 There is literally nothing more important to this man than a list of newspapers he doesn't like getting taken down a peg. Nothing. Everything he says is working backwards from NYT Bad. TheScott2K fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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TheScott2K posted:Free speech crusader Glenn Greenwald thinks a chud Circuit Court Judge who wants to overturn Sullivan is cool and good because she DESTROYED the mainstream media with FACTS and LOGIC in a glorified email forward she submitted as a dissent. Only a complete moron would suggest that the US media is ideologically homogenized.
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Fart Amplifier posted:Only a complete moron would suggest that the US media is ideologically homogenized. Only a complete moron (like this judge and I guess Glenn) would suggest that said homogenization is somehow censoring conservatives.
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Fart Amplifier posted:Only a complete moron would suggest that the US media is ideologically homogenized. Bold assertion when every facet of news media in America is compromised by capital. You couldn't measure the degrees of seperation in ideology between the people that sign Tucker's check or Maddow's.
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Terminal autist posted:Bold assertion when every facet of news media in America is compromised by capital. You couldn't measure the degrees of seperation in ideology between the people that sign Tucker's check or Maddow's. Why does this matter at all in a discussion of the many odious, indefensible things Glenn Greenwald does? And by the way, his reasoning for his objections could not be more obvious: he's still butthurt that his editors wouldn't let him publish an unsourced, unverified smear in their paper. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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TheScott2K posted:Free speech crusader Glenn Greenwald thinks a chud Circuit Court Judge who wants to overturn Sullivan is cool and good because she DESTROYED the mainstream media with FACTS and LOGIC in a glorified email forward she submitted as a dissent. "Wow, this judge seems to hate editors even more than I do. Awesome!"-Glenn, probably. I do wonder what the end game is for him here, career wise. It's clear he's abrasive whenever he has an editor that doesn't allow him to just write what the gently caress ever and there's only so much time in a day for Tucker Carlson appearances. I guess Twitter and substack posting for the rest of his days?
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lol thinking there is the no difference between Tucker and Rachel Maddow is just some deeply stupid poo poo. It’s a kind of performative cynicism that ends up leaving you with just as little idea of what’s going as the most wide eyed naivety.
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Still Dismal posted:lol thinking there is the no difference between Tucker and Rachel Maddow is just some deeply stupid poo poo. It’s a kind of performative cynicism that ends up leaving you with just as little idea of what’s going as the most wide eyed naivety. That's true, only one of them would support a war with Iran. So I guess they're not identical.
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I don't have a strong opinion on Greenwald, but I am curious as to why the USPol thread melts down about him pretty much every single day. The last time it was some person just begging for a random leftist to show up and defend Greenwald like they were posting a Craigslist hookup ad.
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't have a strong opinion on Greenwald, but I am curious as to why the USPol thread melts down about him pretty much every single day. The last time it was some person just begging for a random leftist to show up and defend Greenwald like they were posting a Craigslist hookup ad. I don't know the answer to that, but hey, that's part of why this thread was made: so that there would be fewer derails about him in USPOL.
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't have a strong opinion on Greenwald, but I am curious as to why the USPol thread melts down about him pretty much every single day. The last time it was some person just begging for a random leftist to show up and defend Greenwald like they were posting a Craigslist hookup ad. Good news! There's a thread you can read.
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Slanderer posted:That's true, only one of them would support a war with Iran. So I guess they're not identical. Yeah, why support a foreign war when you can support a domestic ethnic cleansing? Clearly they are the same.
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TheScott2K posted:Good news! There's a thread you can read. He wants the actual reason, though. Theres plenty of bigots & libertarians that USPOL-types ignore, sometimes even post. My earnest take: Greenwald was a prominent opponent of Obama's foreign policy, the surveillance state, and Russia-Gate. He made good arguments about subjects soft liberals would have preferred to keep out of sight & mind, and so was reposted. The only retort at the time was "how dare he say these things on the channel willing to have him on" which is very obviously pathetic. Forward to today, Greenwald is a 54 year old substack & twitter dork who has terrible opinions about trans folk and is deeply contrarian in a way that might make him difficult to defend without twitter deepdives. Finally, the dreaded Greenwald stan can be put in their place! But everyone interested in talking about that posts in C-SPAM threads about Greenwald now, not USPOL or this thread. So you have this niche of people eager to assert dominance over 1-12 year old feuds, and noone to dom. I have an unhealthy interest in arguing with people online, but even I got burnt out fast on this thread with the whole "intuiting if you secretly love rape because you used the word sexpest" nonsense. There's a lot of negative, forcefully toxic energy that finds its way into folk posting about Greenwald. Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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Terminal autist posted:Bold assertion when every facet of news media in America is compromised by capital. You couldn't measure the degrees of seperation in ideology between the people that sign Tucker's check or Maddow's. 1) Fox News was literally given as an example as a unique entity separate from the homogenized media. 2) If your idea of "homogenized" means "exists within capitalism" then it's a useless idea and you're talking about something different than everyone else
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look you pathetic brunchgoing pmc libs, there’s my podcast with 40 listeners that calls for full communism now, and then there’s All Other Media, which, being pathetic tools of capital, are all essentially identitical.
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Still Dismal posted:look you pathetic brunchgoing pmc libs, there’s my podcast with 40 listeners that calls for full communism now, and then there’s All Other Media, which, being pathetic tools of capital, are all essentially identitical. Please sign up for my patreon, comrades.
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Handsome Ralph posted:"Wow, this judge seems to hate editors even more than I do. Awesome!"-Glenn, probably. Possibly aiming for a job at fox news, which is why he appears there constantly, repeats right wing talking points (including promoting the Hunter Biden thing or the 01/06 narrative), attacking leftists like AOC, etc. Though I wonder if Murdoch pays better than grifting idiots on substack
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:also lol at demanding I 'meet effort with effort' when responding to a loving twitter link Michael Harriot: Known for his low effort posts on racism. Neurolimal posted:He wants the actual reason, though. Theres plenty of bigots & libertarians that USPOL-types ignore, sometimes even post. Like who? Also, you're a USPOL-type, comrade.
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How are u posted:Please sign up for my patreon, comrades. only by contributing to my gofundme will the revolution succeed
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Glenn determined to make it clear he's a transphobic shithead https://twitter.com/themattdimitri/status/1373663172738084869
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concrete benefits like police not taking reports if you get attacked and likely assaulting you themselves
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Piell posted:Glenn determined to make it clear he's a transphobic shithead i get some big weird Green eyed monster vibes whenever i hear this kinda poo poo. "WHY AM I NOT GETTING CONGRADULATED" type poo poo.
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"trans people are actually privileged" is a loving disgusting take.
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